Thinking about giving it a whirl

[jakesim]

I'm 21 and debating giving it a whirl. And yes, I know that some people should wait until they're 24 or so. But, my main concern is, if I did it at 5'6 would it look weird? I'm pretty big as it is for only weighing 150. I'm mostly muscle and I can provide a pic to show my physique, but the site won't let me on the thread. :/

I'll try seperating the links

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THERE IS 1 SPACE AFTER THE HTTP

Also, I'm only thinking about doing 1 or 2 4 week cycles. So 4 on 4 off 4 on. Or just 4 on and then 4 off.

So, tldr

My concerns are,

1. after I do pct would I maintain the muscle without the use of it?

2. Would I even look good doing it? Cause I'm kind of happy where I'm at now but a little tempted to give it a shot.

[marcus300]

Welcome and your correct you shouldn't be shutting down your natural test at your age if you can gain size and weight with your test levels you wont do it with steroids, your diet needs to be adjusted and you need to learn how train properly. Don't risk your natural test before its fully developed use what you got and build a base to work from. If your only 150lbs is plain to see your not eating enough and steroids will do nothing except cause you problems you wished you never had.

[jakesim]

Welcome and your correct you shouldn't be shutting down your natural test at your age if you can gain size and weight with your test levels you wont do it with steroids, your diet needs to be adjusted and you need to learn how train properly. Don't risk your natural test before its fully developed use what you got and build a base to work from. If your only 150lbs is plain to see your not eating enough and steroids will do nothing except cause you problems you wished you never had.

I'm only 150 cause I went on a long cut to get into single digits bf but, it was kind of a prolonged cut you could say lol. I was near 170 before. I've been lifting since 15 or so. I'm not a noob when it comes to lifting, just steroids. You can check my pics in the links I provided above. I have years under my belt and I do iifym with correct macronutrient intakes. All that stuff is fine.

[clarky.]

Welcome to the forum

[Times Roman]

I'm only 150 cause I went on a long cut to get into single digits bf but, it was kind of a prolonged cut you could say lol. I was near 170 before. I've been lifting since 15 or so. I'm not a noob when it comes to lifting, just steroids. You can check my pics in the links I provided above. I have years under my belt and I do iifym with correct macronutrient intakes. All that stuff is fine.

agreed. two years in means you know your way around the gym somewhat.

the point Marcus was trying to make, and not to put words into his mouth, is that your physique is not the issue here. Your physical body is still growing and your hormonal system is still developing. Taking steroids now could impact your full potential, possibly even stunt your growth a bit. And not allowing your hormonal system to fully develop may mean that down the road, you could experience a whole host of negative sides, including sexual dysfunction.

---Roman

[marcus300]

I'm only 150 cause I went on a long cut to get into single digits bf but, it was kind of a prolonged cut you could say lol. I was near 170 before. I've been lifting since 15 or so. I'm not a noob when it comes to lifting, just steroids. You can check my pics in the links I provided above. I have years under my belt and I do iifym with correct macronutrient intakes. All that stuff is fine.

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

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[Lovemiami]

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