New Oregon guy - non gainer

[Herk56]

Hi everyone. I have checked the site over the years from time to time, never took the leap, just lurked. You know the type.

I went into the military in 1975 at six feet and 115 pounds. At about 25 I hit 130 and stayed there till I was near 50. In 2006 I hit 175 but it was all in the middle, I looked like I was starving with a huge belly. Kwiosher. When I hit 175 with all that fat in the belly I stopped eating and got back to 155. You could still count my ribs from collar bone down, you know the type. Remember the line in Captain America "Jesus. Somebody get that kid a sandwich." I was skinnier than that scene. And NOBODY would help me. Not body builders, not doctors, not family, nobody, and I was made to feel like a self indulgent idiot for thinking I even needed help. No amount of food or exercise helped. I was required by the Air Force to report to the doctor because I was allowed in on an underweight waiver. The guy was a civilian and perhaps 85 years old, looked exactly like Harlan Sanders, and he milked the resemblance by wearing a white suit, bolo tie, and a goatee. He said I was just too hyperactive and prescribed phenobarbital 500 mg X 250 hits, the prescription came in a quart jar. It ended in tears trust me. In 2007 I was so tired of the rib thing I had pectoral implants (smallest available) just so my shirts would not wrinkle in the chest area.

I will not beat a dead horse, you all know the type of guy, I am the extreme of that caricature. No matter what they do or how much they eat they gain zero. Fortunately (or not) I also was one of those guys with a high IQ and a big dick. So I had other things going for me, I was good looking even if I did not believe it at the time.

The irony is that the chemicals that COULD have helped me were cheap and legal back then. I just did not know about them.

Last year just after my 60th birthday I had a visit from a friend who had been working out, he looked hot. I decided I would get some muscle no matter what it took, if it killed me fine! I was just not going to be an extreme ectomorph anymore. I started working out last July and have gained a whopping 4 ounces. Possibly that is the burrito I ate for lunch yesterday.

I have been to this website a few times, but, I can barely lift a shopping bag of groceries no less the iron you laugh at. And all the times I tried the only thing that happened was pain and sickness - no gains at all. So, I stopped torturing myself with what cannot be. The problem is I am willing to do the work, take the pain, but I am not going through it for nothing at all. They guys that had access to the drugs that could help laugh at people like me. It is like the cartoon of the wimp getting sand kicked in his face while the hunk steals his girlfriend. And now they treat (male) hormones in the law pretty much on the same level as LSD! Meanwhile they stuff hormones down women's throats like it was Pez because it is convenient for the men who make the laws not to have to wear condoms when they have extramarital sex with their girlfriends/mistresses.

So, I am "old." Some of you will say "sorry, we would love to help but your age means you should not be pinning gear." Bullshit, by any medical metric I am still in better shape than most who will read this. And I live in a region where Juan is not available to sell it out of the trunk of his car. There are about 240,000 people in this county, the gyms all pride themselves on natural results which I cannot attain, especially in the time I have left. Law enforcement is good old boy network. Even if Juan was selling and I could find him who knows what you are getting?

My reason to be here is to find a safe way to obtain steroids because that is the only way I am going to gain. I have the money, but when it comes to buying deca or other gear and PTC and all the rest I need you. My bank will not allow transactions on debit to most European nations because they say high fraud claims. I am unwilling to buy crypto. Paypal is good but the sellers that accept it are shady. If I have to I will move to frigging Mexico, but I have a lease. Everywhere I turn it is always NO!

So that is my story. I am going to keep trying, nothing will stop me. This is not me, but it is a realistic approximation of how I looked:

By the way, here is what I really looked like as long as my body was not in the photo:

[kelkel]

One hell of an intro. Welcome Herk. Visit the TRT Forum and read up. Blood work is the first step.

[Herk56]

Hello and welcome! I may have missed it in your post, but have you talked to a doc about TRT? If not, read the sticky about finding a good doc. Good luck and once again, welcome! You will likely be overwhelmed with legitimate help here!

Oh and if you are otherwise healthy, just thin, count your blessings!

test level of 1.2 and

Yes, they put me on 40 mg methyltestosterone qd in 1999 when my blood work showed I was very low. I took it for a few months but it cause screaming heartburn that morphed into acid reflux and I quit taking it, there was no other test on the VA formulary so I simply had to do without. I have had to take Omeprazole for the reflux daily since. That also is causing some problems now. I recently was tested and on two subsequent weeks had a blood level of 1.02 and 2.1 respectively, the doctor has me on Androgel 40.5 mg per day. I don't like it and plan to ask the doc to switch to something less androgenic and injectable, possibly Deca . VA doctors are notoriously shy of steroid prescriptions though. The gel is an alcohol based application to the skin and smells for hours like you just rolled in vodka. Yuk.

[Tigershark]

Welcome

[brazey]

Welcome....

[Phatz]

Welcome