If I were to try a good ovc legal steriod do any of them really work and is it really pricey to buy...whats a good product that someone might have experience with. I might just hold out until something comes along however if something is worth trying I will consider. Also if I am trying to gain natural and Im 180 POUNDS 5"9 what should be my protien and calorie intake I ve heard different things but anyone have a good Idea? I was also going to try Animal stack anyone use that ?