Thread: Who is Hizballa?
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07-26-2006, 12:23 PM #1
Who is Hizballa?
Hello. Since Hizballa are staring on one of the world's latest "dramas", I thought it would be a good idea to introduce them to you guys.
In the picture with the yellow flags, Hizballa terrorists are saluting. What does it look like? Right.
This is the organization responsible for the ongoing war in Lebanon and Israel.
The info is from www.ict.org.il
The Hizballah is an umbrella organization of various radical Shi'ite groups and organizations which adhere to a Khomeinistic ideology. The organization was established following the 1982 Peace for Galilee War in Lebanon (and an increased Iranian presence and influence in Lebanon). The Hizballah organization was established as an organizational body for Shi'ite fundamentalists, led by religious clerics, who see in the adoption of Iranian doctrine a solution to the Lebanese political malaise. This included the use of terror as a means of attaining political objectives.
Toward the end of 1982 Iran sent fighters from its 'Iranian Revolutionary Guards' in order to assist in the establishment of a revolutionary Islamic movement in Lebanon whose members would participate in the 'Jihad', Holy War, against Israel. These forces, which were located in the area of Ba'albek in the northern Beqa'a valley, bestowed on the area an Iranian-Islamic character and constituted the core of the Hizballah organization in Lebanon.
The organization maintains a training apparatus in Lebanon throughout the villages and their surroundings, as well as outside of Lebanon. Training is aimed at building a reliable manpower source for its military forces as well as for its terror arm.
The spiritual father of the movement in Lebanon is Sheikh Muhammed Hussein Fadlallah who acts as chief Mujtahid - arbiter of Islamic law - of the Shi'ite community in Lebanon. With the passage of time, Hizballah has turned into an organization of secondary level groups working on the local level led by regional functionaries.
The current Secretary General of Hizballah is Hassan Nasrallah. At the start of the 1980's he was responsible for the Beka'a area on behalf of the AMAL movement. He left the organization in 1982 and affiliated with Hizballah, taking with him many of his followers. Following the death of Abbas Musawi, he was unanimously elected as his successor as commander of operations.
History
The Spread of Hizballah into Southern Lebanon
As the organizational infrastructure developed, Hizballah, with Iranian and Syrian assistance, began to establish an extensive military network in the Ba'albek area. Its militias have since spread into the Shi'ite neighborhoods in southern and western Beirut as well as into southern Lebanon.
This network is the principle base of Hizballah activities as well as for those of other radical Shi'ite groups. Thousands of Hizballah activists and members are located in the Beqa'a valley, Beirut and southern Lebanon. These areas also offer a base for the recruitment of additional activists and fighters among the local Shi'ite populations.
Following the IDF withdrawal from Lebanon in 1985 the Hizballah organization consolidated itself. The consolidation included the establishment of storage depots for weapons, recruitment of activists and fighters, and widespread aid to residents in S. Lebanon, such as the donation of money, equipment, medical supplies, etc. The purpose of the aid was to gain the support of the local population in favor of the organizations activities in the South.
Ideology & Strategy
The ideological basis of Hizballah is Khomeinism and its principle goal is the establishment of a pan-Islamic republic headed by religious clerics. The organization's world view was first published in its political platform in February 1985, as follows:
The solution to Lebanon's problems is the establishment of an Islamic republic as only this type of regime can secure justice and equality for all of Lebanon's citizen's.
The Hizballah organization views as an important goal the fight against 'western imperialism' and its eradication from Lebanon. The group strives for complete American and French withdrawal from Lebanon, including all their institutions.
The conflict with Israel is viewed as a central concern. This is not only limited to the IDF presence in Lebanon. Rather, the complete destruction of the State of Israel and the establishment of Islamic rule over Jerusalem is an expressed goal.
Part of this radical ideology is the group's militant approach using terror as a means of attaining its goals. Hizballah decries the existence of Israel ('the little Satan'), viewed as foreign to the region and which constitutes a threat to Islam and Muslims. The destruction of Israel and the liberation of Jerusalem is deemed a religious obligation. The Hizballah organization justifies the use of terror against these enemies as a weapon in the hands of the weak and oppressed against the strong aggressor. In an effort to act upon and realize the predetermined ideological lines the group's leaders actively plan and perpetrate terror attacks against IDF and SLA forces, preach religious extremism against Israel and disseminate Iranian ideology. The Hizballah extends the conflict into Israeli territory and does not restrict its struggle to areas in Lebanon.
With the signing of the 'Ta'if Agreement' (1989) and the beginning of the 'Syrian arrangement in Lebanon, the Hizballah has been forced to conform to Syrian dictates. The Syrian interest in the continuation of terrorist attacks in South Lebanon has enabled the Hizballah to maintain its unique status in the Lebanese arena as the only major military force yet to be disarmed. The Syrians have prevented the Lebanese government from harming the military capabilities of the Hizballah, under the pretext of opposing the Israeli occupation, while at the same time enforcing their dictates upon the organization during periods when they are interested in calming the situation in southern Lebanon (as was the case following 'Operation Accountability' in July 1993 or the period coinciding with the Assad-Clinton meeting in January 1994).
Terrorist Activities
Using cover names such as 'Islamic Jihad', 'The Revolutionary Justice Organization' and 'The Islamic Resistance', with the blessings of its religious leaders, Hizballah has carried out a series of high profile attacks against Israeli targets in southern Lebanon and American and Multinational Forces targets in Lebanon. Only later did their attacks become more intensive as well as demonstrating better planning, especially immediately prior to the opening of the peace process.
In 1991, the Hizballah was responsible for 52 attacks, as compared to 19 attacks the organization carried out in 1990. In 1992, the Hizballah launched 63 attacks and in 1993, 158 attacks, when during the course of 'Operation Accountability' they fired hundreds of Katyusha rockets into the Security Zone and Israeli territory. In 1994 a total of 187 attacks against Israeli troops and positions by Hizballah were recorded. There were 119 instances of artillery fire, 31 detonations of explosive charges and 2 frontal assaults on IDF positions. In 1995 a total of 344 attacks against Israeli troops and positions by were recorded. There were 270 instances of artillery fire, 64 detonations of explosive charges and 2 frontal assaults on IDF positions.
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07-26-2006, 12:32 PM #2
Here's more
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07-26-2006, 01:39 PM #3
Now all they need to do is goose step instead of that cute little skip/hop/ditty they do.
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07-26-2006, 07:00 PM #4
no relation past the superficial....all muslims hate hitler, trust me
we realize he wouldnt have stopped at the jews
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Originally Posted by tiger909
"all TRUE muslims hate hitler, trust me"
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07-27-2006, 02:07 AM #6Originally Posted by tiger909
This is quite a interesting read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini
Not trying to say alot of muslims supported nazis though. Not at all. But it atleast shows fanatics would even ally with the devil if they had to.
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07-27-2006, 05:17 AM #7
I don't think Hezbolah has anything to do with Nazis or Hitlers etc, they are just a fundamental and fanatic too organization that opposes to Israel.
Israel is the beloved child of the US and the policeman in the Middle East region ,there's no way for them to be accepted from the Arabs in Palestine unless they give a piece from their land back
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07-27-2006, 05:38 AM #8Originally Posted by judge_dread
very good post.
bout hitler
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07-27-2006, 08:41 AM #9Originally Posted by judge_dread
Well that's a matter of semantics.
.The Nazis wanted the end of the Jews, Although Hezbola didn't exist during the time of the Nazis, Hezbola has stated loudly and proudly that Jews are the enemy, and the target.
.The US and Israel are great allies this is fact, also fact is the Russians, Chinese, N Koreans, most south American nations, All of the African continent, and the UN balance things by holding hands with Islamic and Arab nations on every issue regardless of right or wrong.
.And lastly, Land for peace? That has been tried, and has been proven over and over (IE: Gaza, South Lebanon, Settlement blocks in the West Bank......) that land is not the goal of Zealots like Hamas and Hezbola. There ultimate goal is to vanquish every last Jew from the land of Israel.
I Quote from Yaser Arafat "If we cannot take Palestine by war we will take it piece by piece through politics"
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07-27-2006, 09:05 AM #10
no
Originally Posted by judge_dread
“Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: 'The Jews are yours.'”
- Former Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini in his post-WWII memoirs
"Within weeks of Adolf Hitler’s ascendance to power, Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini contacted the German counsel-general in Palestine. With exception of funding anti-Semitic riots, Germans rejected the Arab’s overtures until 1937, when Adolf Eichmann and Herbert Hagen were sent to Palestine to establish a framework to provide Husseini with military and financial aid by Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy."
blogsight
There will be no peace in the Middle East until the Jews are all removed or killed. It is in Hezbollah's charter that they exist to rid the Middle East of Jews.
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07-27-2006, 09:12 AM #11
I find the similarities striking. Hitler was a cult like figure, garnering a following of fanatics and zealots willing and hoping they could die for their leader. Nasrallah has that kind of following. Hitler perverted Christianity so as to justify in part the persecution of Jews. The Islamic clerics do the same thing to Islam...or so we're told. The Nazis use terror tactics to gain power and stay in power, so do Hez and Hamas and others. The Nazis never negotiated in good faith, ask Neville Chamberlin and the other appeasers. The Arab terrorists do not negoiate in good faith, always demanding more and resorting to terror to achieve their immediate ends.
The individual was unimportant to the Nazis...the State was everything. To the leadership of the terror organizations the individual is only a tool, a highly expendable tool, to advance the "cause". ie: murder/suicide bombers. To the Nazis women were 2nd class citizens. The same is true in most Arab cultures.
And while this list could go on and on...one of the greatest similarities is both movements are based on hate. Hate of a people, religion, and way of life.
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07-27-2006, 09:14 AM #12Originally Posted by Logan13
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07-27-2006, 09:27 AM #13
Here is a copy & paste from today's paper. I just thought it was relevant and interesting.
Nasrallah, the Palestinian Messiah
It seems to happen almost every decade. A new Arab leader arises who promises to defeat Israel in war and save the Palestinians from their sufferings, and as usual, many of the Palestinians become followers of the false messiah. In the 1960s, hundreds of thousands of people in the Arab world believed that Gamal Abdel Nasser would be the leader to rout Israel. Nasser also insisted on representing the Palestinians in their struggle, on the grounds that they are part of the Arab world, and it was his defeat that opened the way for Yasser Arafat, who promised throughout the 1970s and 1980s that Palestine would be established with the aid of a gun. In the late 1980s and 1990s, Saddam Hussein was the leader who captured the hearts of many Palestinians with his promises to strike at Israel, defeat it and assist them in setting up a Palestinian state.
The current savior in the eyes of many Palestinians is Hassan Nasrallah. More than 10 marches in favor of Nasrallah and his organization have been held in the territories since the start of hostilities in the north. Activists from a variety of organizations carry his picture aloft in protests and many individuals see him as the only leader who can take on Israel and win.
IMO: A culture which is built on the destruction of another culture has no future, and certainly no legitimate credibility.
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07-27-2006, 12:10 PM #14
Yes but isn't it weird that EVERYONE opposes US or Israel is at the same time called "terrorist"?
I know who are the real terrorists around the world and they are not always the ones that the president of the United States shows.
For example I recall that in Chile back in the '70s the US did their best to eliminate their "enemy" mr Allente an elected socialist president
I aggree that fanatic Arabs and their supporters are not gonna stop threaten Israel but they have a good reason for that
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07-27-2006, 12:21 PM #15Banned
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Spell the name right
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07-27-2006, 12:33 PM #16Originally Posted by singern
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07-27-2006, 12:53 PM #17Originally Posted by tiger909
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07-27-2006, 01:10 PM #18Originally Posted by Teabagger
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07-27-2006, 01:19 PM #19Originally Posted by tiger909
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07-27-2006, 01:23 PM #20Originally Posted by FaizakaFez
She's actually from Israel and probably deals with these people on a basis we luckily do not have the luxury of having. So knocking the spelling is about as worthless as you can get. Just outta curiousity why would that be your only response to this thread?
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07-27-2006, 01:32 PM #21Originally Posted by USfighterFC
I didn't repsond to him because anyone who would listen to Nasralla or any other Arab saying "Hizballa" would know it's with an A not an O. Plus if we're going to go deeper into it, Hizballa means "party of God". God in Arabic is ALLA (and not OLLA), therefore the correct way would be saying "HizbALLA" and certainly not "Hizbolla".
Hope that settles it.
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07-27-2006, 02:36 PM #22Banned
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Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
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07-27-2006, 03:15 PM #23Originally Posted by FaizakaFez
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07-27-2006, 03:21 PM #24Originally Posted by judge_dread
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07-27-2006, 04:11 PM #25Retired Vet
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Originally Posted by FaizakaFez
Who really gives a rats ass. I spell it Hezbollah Rak_Ani spells it Hizbollah and USfighterFC spells it something in Russian, but we all know who we're talking about.
We're talking about a bunch of cowards, cowering behind civilian's and UNIFIL personel to protect themselves from the big, bad IDF. If their not doing that their hiding in banana groves launching Katyusha's into the Galilee.
Spell Hezbollah whatever why you want, but we all know the kind of cowardly bastards we're talking about.
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07-28-2006, 06:58 AM #26
lol yes I am!
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07-28-2006, 12:29 PM #27Originally Posted by Phreak101
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07-28-2006, 01:26 PM #28
fact
Originally Posted by tiger909
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07-28-2006, 03:18 PM #29Originally Posted by Logan13
Last edited by tiger909; 07-28-2006 at 04:02 PM.
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07-28-2006, 07:08 PM #30
where are the cookie scouts when we need em
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07-28-2006, 07:28 PM #31
sounds like causasian language.....hey bro you still up for it or what? I'm waitin on you remember that. If i gotta put you on your back outside the UN i'm always ready.
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07-28-2006, 07:40 PM #32
Aww i knew it was you....actually no just as i stated there is a north side and south side of williamsburg and you think i'm honestly gonna tell you the house number. You made nobody turn red bruh LMAO believe me. I actually couldnt ban you in the first place so there's nothing new there. Maybe if you were not such a hateful prick you could've stayed.....for a while you were pretty moderate and debated pretty well....but alas you started becoming a hateful bigot who spewed shit out of his mouth at all times. Too bad you let your own ideology blind you and make you the hateful person you are. You have soo much anger and contempt for everything around you it's pretty pathetic. The only thing you can really do about it is come on an internet steroid forum and remain anonmymous and never post a picture and hide behind a computer to ever get balls to say something. But meanwhile out in public you walk with your head down and keep your mouth shut at all times. Pretty sad life you lead.
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07-28-2006, 07:51 PM #33Originally Posted by Second Coming
You would have punched nothing. You are too much of a coward to do anything on your own. Americans are cool people but its too bad we dont feel the same about you. And please don't ask me to put up poll numbers of what Americans think of Hezbollah I do not feel like it. Do me a favor, post your picture up also while your at it. Let's see you put money where your mouth is for a change. Lets so the OH SO BIG CAUSASIAN running his mouth. Matter of fact how could you actually prove its you and not some random guy. We all know your homosexual tendencies. Bro you make me laugh......A LOT. You are quite the comedian...only problem is people laugh at you instead of with you. I'm suprised you havent figured it out that you're just a huge punch line here, we all think your just one big loser and coming back here time after time after time just proves how right we are.
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07-28-2006, 09:43 PM #34Originally Posted by USfighterFC
The fact that I keep coming back, shows the nature of my people. We will never ever ever ever give up, ever. Till we achieve victory. I hope you realize this.
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07-28-2006, 09:48 PM #35Originally Posted by BOUNCER
Hizbollah has killed more soldiers than civilians. Cant say the same about the IDF can you?
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07-28-2006, 10:11 PM #36
The real Nazis are the IDF forces.
Look at this current conflict. Its a perfect example.
Hizbollah as usual attacks a military target. Israeli leaders like Olmert, show their incompetence. So to act tough the target Lebanese civilians.
How many Lebanese civilians killed? More than 400.
Hizbollah has killed more soldiers than civilians, can you say the same for Israel? No.
Israel is scared to go into ground battle with Hizbollah, who has about 1000 soldiers. 1000.
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07-28-2006, 10:14 PM #37Retired Vet
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Nice avatar C. I wonder when one of the new AR rats will be around to see it!.
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07-28-2006, 10:18 PM #38Originally Posted by BOUNCER
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07-28-2006, 11:09 PM #39Originally Posted by BOUNCER
you bouncer
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07-29-2006, 04:01 AM #40Originally Posted by CAUCASIAN
No C, the fact you keep coming back shows how little you have in your life.
You were rejected. You're not wanted here. Move on.
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