Apple builds a black cube-shaped store - muslims offended

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There is more to WWII then meets the eye, Dig deep, The stories that have been propagated over time are inaccurate and deceptive.

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It was only during Hitlers reign that jews where treated badly officialy. He stole there money, placed them in ghettos, used them as slave labor ect. Much of it happened before ww2 started.

Dont dig your own grave, Look how they were treated before hitlers time in the UK, France, Etc,,,

Do some research.

The Spanish and Portuguese or Bevis Marks Synagogue was modelled on the Portuguese synagogue of Amsterdam
In Europe, intolerance was on the increase. Spanish Jews (Sephardim) were expelled in 1492. Conversos were also persecuted and limits were placed on their economic and social freedoms. Many migrated, some to England, where they formed unofficial communities in Bristol and London.
By the 1650s practicing Jews were allowed to settle in Britain again( they were previously kicked out by the king). The community was concentrated in London, close to the protection of the monarchy and near to the docks for trading purposes. In 1660 there were 35-40 Jewish families in London, mostly of Spanish origin.
In 1700, they formed a synagogue in Creechurch Lane. In 1701 the grand Spanish and Portuguese Bevis Marks Synagogue was built.
Western European society became more accepting of Jews in the 18th century, primarily for economic reasons. Monarchies benefited from trading links formed by Jewish merchants. Most Jews in Georgian England, however, were poor, often involved in peddling goods from town to town.
Whilst some Jews became respectable members of society, poor Jews were seen as dangerous. This hostile image represents Jews in stereotypical form as unruly and alien

Its swayed off topic. The point is,

A person just cant watch CNN then thinked he has figerd out the Middle East.

And that Arabs and Islamos are this and that, Its true to say the western world has had strong influence over the events there that have caused these people to loose the plot,

So its up to us westerners to sit down and be fair with both Israel and the Arabs, Not take Israels side exclusivly about every little thing and arm them up to kil arabs then wonder why they want to blow us up.

We need to be fair, Put presuure on both parties, Cut funding, and punish thoses responsable. This is the only way peace will ever be achived on this planet, EDUCATION not Ignorrence will sove our problems.

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Dont dig your own grave, Look how they were treated before hitlers time in the UK, France, Etc,,,

Do some research.

The Spanish and Portuguese or Bevis Marks Synagogue was modelled on the Portuguese synagogue of Amsterdam
In Europe, intolerance was on the increase. Spanish Jews (Sephardim) were expelled in 1492. Conversos were also persecuted and limits were placed on their economic and social freedoms. Many migrated, some to England, where they formed unofficial communities in Bristol and London.
By the 1650s practicing Jews were allowed to settle in Britain again. The community was concentrated in London, close to the protection of the monarchy and near to the docks for trading purposes. In 1660 there were 35-40 Jewish families in London, mostly of Spanish origin.
In 1700, they formed a synagogue in Creechurch Lane. In 1701 the grand Spanish and Portuguese Bevis Marks Synagogue was built.
Western European society became more accepting of Jews in the 18th century, primarily for economic reasons. Monarchies benefited from trading links formed by Jewish merchants. Most Jews in Georgian England, however, were poor, often involved in peddling goods from town to town.
Whilst some Jews became respectable members of society, poor Jews were seen as dangerous. This hostile image represents Jews in stereotypical form as unruly and alien

I guess you failed to se the word "officialy"...Meaning they where not officialy discriminated by the goverment. Regular assholes beeing rude was probably comon. Just as we have racists assholes around nowdays.

But they prospered intellectualy and financialy anyway.

Jews where incredibly benifical to europe pre ww2.

Lisa Meitner
Albert Einstein
Max Born
Niels Bohr
Leo Szilard
Stanislaw Ulam
Eugene Wigner
Edward Teller
Hans Bethe
Emilio Segré

Thats just a few that escaped europe due to hitles madness. There is no words to express how much those people developed science. Most of the modern technology around us today we have jews to thank for. The groundwork they put down before ww2 was crucial.

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Dont dig your own grave, Look how they were treated before hitlers time in the UK, France, Etc,,,

Do some research.

The Spanish and Portuguese or Bevis Marks Synagogue was modelled on the Portuguese synagogue of Amsterdam
In Europe, intolerance was on the increase. Spanish Jews (Sephardim) were expelled in 1492. Conversos were also persecuted and limits were placed on their economic and social freedoms. Many migrated, some to England, where they formed unofficial communities in Bristol and London.
By the 1650s practicing Jews were allowed to settle in Britain again( they were previously kicked out by the king). The community was concentrated in London, close to the protection of the monarchy and near to the docks for trading purposes. In 1660 there were 35-40 Jewish families in London, mostly of Spanish origin.
In 1700, they formed a synagogue in Creechurch Lane. In 1701 the grand Spanish and Portuguese Bevis Marks Synagogue was built.
Western European society became more accepting of Jews in the 18th century, primarily for economic reasons. Monarchies benefited from trading links formed by Jewish merchants. Most Jews in Georgian England, however, were poor, often involved in peddling goods from town to town.
Whilst some Jews became respectable members of society, poor Jews were seen as dangerous. This hostile image represents Jews in stereotypical form as unruly and alien

The same thing could be said about Mexicans here in the U.S. today, it does not mean that they are an overall bad people, they just have a stereotype. I don't believe eveything I read until I read multiple sources of it, you're "history" sounds like it's being selectively chosen in favor of your opinion.

At least you are providing sources and being civil, flame away at the Jews all you want I suppose...

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There is more to WWII then meets the eye, Dig deep, The stories that have been propagated over time are inaccurate and deceptive.

Yes offcourse it was all a big jewish conspiracy

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"The international Jew" written by Henry Ford, The inventer of the car Ford.
Ford, Henry, 1863-1947

Well reading a book about jews written by Henry Ford is kind of like reading a book about men written by Valerie Solanas...

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The same thing could be said about Mexicans here in the U.S. today, it does not mean that they are an overall bad people, they just have a stereotype. I don't believe eveything I read until I read multiple sources of it, you're "history" sounds like it's being selectively chosen in favor of your opinion.

At least you are providing sources and being civil, flame away at the Jews all you want I suppose...

In a differnt debate i will flame Arbas jkust as much ias i will flame Jews,

When ever somone talks about jews they are automatically being racist and selective.

I have steped outside the square. One day your great mind will relize that there is more to history then what was taught at school.


To further prove my point, I have had about 4 reply posts from 4 different people all being pro-jew and anti-arab,

Im white, Im christian, i have no bias, Im just telling it how it is, and once we white christians relize that we have to be fair in this world the better this world will be. The problem is our leaders are intimerdated and forced to take one side by a forign lobby that threatens them with cutting money and shame,

Google.com will have all the refrences you need,

Take care and learn to be fair.

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Well reading a book about jews written by Henry Ford is kind of like reading a book about men written by Valerie Solanas...

Henry ford was an inventor, A great mind, He was white, and he was christian, and a business man, The book is a great insight into the christian mind of the late 1800s and early 1900s,

do not cast it away as it is void, its not, Look into the grey part of history that for some reason is not being taught and is systematicaly been hidden,

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In a differnt debate i will flame Arbas jkust as much ias i will flame Jews,

When ever somone talks about jews they are automatically being racist and selective.

I have steped outside the square. One day your great mind will relize that there is more to history then what was taught at school.


To further prove my point, I have had about 4 reply posts from 4 different people all being pro-jew and anti-arab,

Im white, Im christian, i have no bias, Im just telling it how it is, and once we white christians relize that we have to be fair in this world the better this world will be. The problem is our leaders are intimerdated and forced to take one side by a forign lobby that threatens them with cutting money and shame,

Google.com will have all the refrences you need,

Take care and learn to be fair.

I have no problem with negative opinions about what's going on in the world, but you should be flaming the government of Israel, nott he Jews themselves. A lot of the anti-American sentiment on here is tolerated due to the fact is directed at our government, not us. Same goes for Arabs. I despise Iran's leader, Osama bin Laden, etc. The people being misled and/or deceived I feel sorrow for.

So preach on about your opinion, regardless, but I would advise keeping your criticisms to states and government bodies rather than religions/ethnic groups.

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When ever somone talks about jews they are automatically being racist and selective.

Not realy. I just think its bullshit to talk about any group of people with only a comon basis of religion, race or belife. Its just like claiming all americans are ignorant, all swedes are big, blond and stupid, russians are alcoholics, irish fights alot, blacks have huge dongs and so on.

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I have no problem with negative opinions about what's going on in the world, but you should be flaming the government of Israel, nott he Jews themselves. A lot of the anti-American sentiment on here is tolerated due to the fact is directed at our government, not us. Same goes for Arabs. I despise Iran's leader, Osama bin Laden, etc. The people being misled and/or deceived I feel sorrow for.

So preach on about your opinion, regardless, but I would advise keeping your criticisms to states and government bodies rather than religions/ethnic groups.

aha i extracted the exact reaction i was after , You have proven my point, How many anti-islamic anti-arab posts are there inthis thread, Have you said that in regards to them, NO, It only comes out when somone is trying to explain the other side of the story,


This ignorrence is the exact thing im talking about, People need education to better understand wars and justice.

Learn to be fair,

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Henry ford was an inventor, A great mind, He was white, and he was christian, and a business man, The book is a great insight into the christian mind of the late 1800s and early 1900s,

do not cast it away as it is void, its not, Look into the grey part of history that for some reason is not being taught and is systematicaly been hidden,

It's being hidden because it's full of bias and hatred. Henry Ford was never objective about the Jews, he was an outspoken anti-semite. While some of the history and stats he used to support his veiws I'm sure was accurate, I would imagine he would leave out a lot of the things that Jews have done FOR the world.

History is usually different from history books I agree, but the mistakes of a few should not label the histories of many...

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Henry ford was an inventor, A great mind, He was white, and he was christian, and a business man, The book is a great insight into the christian mind of the late 1800s and early 1900s,

do not cast it away as it is void, its not, Look into the grey part of history that for some reason is not being taught and is systematicaly been hidden,

Yupp I am not doubting the fact that Ford was a great man. But he was a outspoken anti semite.

Someone in ku klux klan might be a mensa member, run a succesfull buisness and have a phd in history. I still wont listen to what he has to say about black people.

History changes everytime a new historian writes it. But the clear and most obvious reason for the war was that germany was ****ed over after the great war and had weak leadership.
Hitler lived on the Dolchstoss myth and managed to cease power and then went onwards with his madness.

All the thile the rest of europe was shit afraid of the soviets and thought "hey hey this Hitler guy might be a good balance to Stalin" so they didnt do much until it was far to late.

There is no need to invoce any more explanations realy because that is the main cause.

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It's being hidden because it's full of bias and hatred. Henry Ford was never objective about the Jews, he was an outspoken anti-semite. While some of the history and stats he used to support his veiws I'm sure was accurate, I would imagine he would leave out a lot of the things that Jews have done FOR the world.

History is usually different from history books I agree, but the mistakes of a few should not label the histories of many...

My point is them few your talking about are still active and more powerful then ever., They are still planing wars, Still opressing the masses,

Henry ford was not bias, As a white christian business man of his time he had some legit concerns about his country and the world he lived in,

He simply stated them.

Its not the Isralis fault. Its our fault, Cause without us they could do nothing, But we choose to turn a blind eye, We choose to blindly arm and fund them. The we get real pissed when they blow up our cities, and want to blow them up, We have to break out of this bucket mentality, No one can win,

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It was only during Hitlers reign that jews where treated badly officialy. He stole there money, placed them in ghettos, used them as slave labor ect. Much of it happened before ww2 started.

That's what i thought.

Compound. I was thinking you were talking about stuff a little more recent. You are going back to the 16-1700's. If you go back hundreds of years in history you can find a time when everyone was hated. Hell in that time frame the US was fighting itself in a civil war. And we hated each other

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That's what i thought.

Compound. I was thinking you were talking about stuff a little more recent. You are going back to the 16-1700's. If you go back hundreds of years in history you can find a time when everyone was hated. Hell in that time frame the US was fighting itself in a civil war. And we hated each other

racism and anti semitism has existed in europe for a LONG time.

But that doesnt mean its right or that jews deserved it somehow(like compound seemed to imply if I didnt missunderstand him).

The fact that jews where so succesfull is probably a big cause of it. Envy is the man cause of hatred.

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That's what i thought.

Compound. I was thinking you were talking about stuff a little more recent. You are going back to the 16-1700's. If you go back hundreds of years in history you can find a time when everyone was hated. Hell in that time frame the US was fighting itself in a civil war. And we hated each other

It was then , That gave berth to now. This is what im trying to explain, And thisis what you will discover with blinding speed when you dedcide to look into it,

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It was then , That gave berth to now. This is what im trying to explain, And thisis what you will discover with blinding speed when you dedcide to look into it,

Ok. I will read about it. Like i said i've always read from the 40's until current