an email that I received

[Logan13]

I received this in my email:

About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution,
in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University
of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic
some 2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up
until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous
gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always
votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public
treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to
loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning
of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these
nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage "

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul,
Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000
Presidential election:

Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million; Bush: 143 million;

Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000; Bush: 2,427,000

States won by: Gore: 19; Bush: 29

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 13.2; Bush: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was
mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country.
Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

If the Senate grants Amnesty and citizenship to 20 million invaders called
illegals and they vote, then goodbye USA in less than 5 years.

Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing
that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

[biglouie250]

old urban legend. although the quote is true most of the facts and conclusions arent.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp

pass this along to anyone that likes to research the propaganda they hear so they dont follow blindly.

[biglouie250]

oh and sorry logan but

always wanted to use that one lol

[Logan13]

oh and sorry logan but

always wanted to use that one lol

lol, I never said it was true or not, it was just an email that I received..........

[biglouie250]

lol, I never said it was true or not, it was just an email that I received..........

ahhh you got me there on a technicallity. lol lol

[CSAR]

I guess the statistics professors were right...stats DO lie

[bazerk]

I guess the statistics professors were right...stats DO lie

65% of all statistics are made up...including this one!

[eliteforce]

I think it's misleading to say that:
In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was
mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country.
Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare..."

CA and NY are the states that pay by far the most taxes and they are blue, and when you look at the 2004 states, most of the taxes and the US economy are in the blue states, the red states have texas and florida to have an real economic output and even those states are weak and dependent on the blue states.

the red sates are basically the old Confederate States of America.

Also, Professor Olsen does not include farm subsidies as "welfare"..for some reason when you give white people money for free, it's not welfare..also poor people who join the military are not on welfare, but many of them join because they have very limited employment options in the rural area they come from.

[Logan13]

old urban legend. although the quote is true most of the facts and conclusions arent.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp

pass this along to anyone that likes to research the propaganda they hear so they dont follow blindly.

This is from the link above:
1. The population of the counties and square miles of area won by each Bush and Gore appear to be accurate. They are consistent with the election-result map published by USA Today on 20 November 2000.

2. The number of states won by each candidate is wrong, but the numbers given (29 and 19) imply this piece was written before the results of the Florida and New Mexico vote-counts were determined. The final tallies were 30 states for Bush and 20 for Gore.

So the true figures are as follows according to your link above:
Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million; Bush: 143 million;

Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000; Bush: 2,427,000

States won by: Gore: 20; Bush: 30

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 6.5; Bush: 4.1

[biglouie250]

Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000; Bush: 2,427,000

States won by: Gore: 20; Bush: 30

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 6.5; Bush: 4.1

when you have more people in one area there is a greater probability for muder its simple math bro. gore won the popular vote but for all intensive purposes lets call it even...... when you have that many people in and area 4x as small......shit is gonna happen. id surmize that most of the people doing the killing werent voting in the first place lol.

[Logan13]

when you have more people in one area there is a greater probability for muder its simple math bro. gore won the popular vote but for all intensive purposes lets call it even...... when you have that many people in and area 4x as small......shit is gonna happen. id surmize that most of the people doing the killing werent voting in the first place lol.

My reason for posting this from snopes was because of the main reason snopes.com called it an urban myth. The myth part was about the murder rates being embellished as well as it all being based on some "vision".