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    Chavez: Bush should get death penalty...

    Chavez: Bush should get death penalty...
    Venezuela's president continued his criticism of President Bush after the pro-Chávez legislature declared that the 9/11 attacks were `self-inflicted.'
    The Miami Herald
    CARACAS - When Venezuela's leftist President Hugo Chávez called President Bush ''the devil'' in a U.N. speech in September, many thought his ''anti-imperialist'' rhetoric had reached rock bottom.

    But fresh depths have since been plumbed. The Venezuelan government, to judge from recent events, officially regards Bush as a genocidal Nazi who arranged the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to justify aggression against other nations.

    In a speech Tuesday, Chávez criticized the decision of an Iraqi court to sentence former dictator Saddam Hussein to the death penalty. ''If sentencing is to be done,'' Chávez said, ``the first one to be given the most severe sentence this planet has to offer should be the president of the United States, if we're talking about genocidal presidents.''

    RESOLUTION ON 9/11

    His comments, which were fairly typical of his recent attacks on Bush, came shortly after the publication of a resolution by Venezuela's legislative National Assembly describing the 9/11 attacks as ''self-inflicted'' and after an exhibition at the Foreign Ministry building in Caracas in which Bush was portrayed as a Nazi storm trooper.

    The resolution, which appeared in the official government gazette in mid-October, primarily criticized Washington's decision to build a wall along the Mexican border to keep illegal immigrants out.

    But in its fourth paragraph, it calls on the U.S. Congress to ``demand that the government of President Bush explain the self-inflicted attack on the World Trade Center and its victims, the supposed aircraft that crashed into the Pentagon and the links between the bin Laden family and the Bush family.''

    The resolution, drafted by the deputy chairman of the Foreign Affairs Commission, Carlos Escarrá, was passed unanimously by the 167-member assembly, all of them Chávez supporters after an opposition boycott of elections last December.

    Both Chávez and Foreign Minister Nicolás Maduro have referred several times in the past to suspicions that the 9/11 attacks were planned by the Bush administration, and have called for an inquiry.

    But this appears to be the first time that the term ''self-inflicted attack'' has been used without qualification.

    Asked how the legislature had reached that conclusion, Escarrá said that ''evidence and testimonies'' had emerged in the United States and that ''for the rest of the world, there is no longer any question'' that 9/11 was not an al Qaeda attack.

    About the time the lawmakers were approving the resolution, an exhibition called ''Truths About the Empire'' was on display in the foyer of the Foreign Ministry. It included a photo montage showing Bush dressed in the uniform of the German SS.

    The exhibition was removed after a reporter for a U.S. newspaper asked to photograph it. A U.S. diplomat, who asked for anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the record about the issue, said the display was ``an insult to the 400,000 Americans who died in World War II fighting the Nazis.''

    Escarrá said the comparison might indeed be considered unfair -- but to Hitler, not to Bush. ''Hitler was a babe in arms compared to Bush,'' he asserted. He added that just like Hitler, Bush had ``an extermination plan.''

    'LARGE' DIFFERENCES

    U.S. Ambassador William Brownfield told a Venezuelan radio station last week that differences between the two governments were ''large, broad and deep'' and were unlikely to disappear.

    It is a view shared by Escarrá, who told The Miami Herald that Bush ''defends the most outdated, the most radical form of capitalism'' and added that it was evident to the whole world that the U.S. ``empire is in decline.''

    Chávez insists that it is Bush, rather than the main opposition contender, Manuel Rosales, who is his true adversary in the Dec. 3 presidential election. The opposition, he argues, is merely puppets of the United States.

    He has also often claimed that Washington has plans to invade Venezuela, assassinate him and install a government more in accordance with U.S. interests. Washington has dismissed his allegations as fabrications.

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    Mr Chavez sir, if I may, I have a question for you....ahem....Who the fvck are you? Leave the matters of world diplomacy to the big boys, stick to dictating and oppresing your own country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak101
    Mr Chavez sir, if I may, I have a question for you....ahem....Who the fvck are you? Leave the matters of world diplomacy to the big boys, stick to dictating and oppresing your own country
    WOW!! Very well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak101
    Mr Chavez sir, if I may, I have a question for you....ahem....Who the fvck are you? Leave the matters of world diplomacy to the big boys, stick to dictating and oppresing your own country
    If the US can keep interfering in and even invading foreign countries, what's the harm in Chavez running his mouth about Bush? And by the way, Chavez was elected democratically, and just because the West doesn't like him doesnt make him a dictator. The West supports tons of awful, psychotic dictatorships all over the world. Compared to some that the West has supported, Chavez is an angel. Yeah, I'm gonna get ragged on for being a commie, terrorist, the usual names, etc. But whatever. Venzuela's got oil, the US is jealous that Chavez has nationalized it (i.e. taken what is rightfully theirs) and has set out to make him out to be Pol Pot or something. (Coincidentally, the US supported Pol Pot during his reign of terror).
    Oh boy, I'm ranting again.
    Anyways, for an eye-opener, check out the film "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" full movie here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...90545689805144

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    that Escarra guy seems to have a few screws loose.

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    Good points. It sounds like you take the time to find out what's going on before you shoot your mouth. You're a good role model for many on this site!

    Quote Originally Posted by pimpdawgin
    If the US can keep interfering in and even invading foreign countries, what's the harm in Chavez running his mouth about Bush? And by the way, Chavez was elected democratically, and just because the West doesn't like him doesnt make him a dictator. The West supports tons of awful, psychotic dictatorships all over the world. Compared to some that the West has supported, Chavez is an angel. Yeah, I'm gonna get ragged on for being a commie, terrorist, the usual names, etc. But whatever. Venzuela's got oil, the US is jealous that Chavez has nationalized it (i.e. taken what is rightfully theirs) and has set out to make him out to be Pol Pot or something. (Coincidentally, the US supported Pol Pot during his reign of terror).
    Oh boy, I'm ranting again.
    Anyways, for an eye-opener, check out the film "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" full movie here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...90545689805144

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpdawgin
    If the US can keep interfering in and even invading foreign countries, what's the harm in Chavez running his mouth about Bush? And by the way, Chavez was elected democratically, and just because the West doesn't like him doesnt make him a dictator. The West supports tons of awful, psychotic dictatorships all over the world. Compared to some that the West has supported, Chavez is an angel. Yeah, I'm gonna get ragged on for being a commie, terrorist, the usual names, etc. But whatever. Venzuela's got oil, the US is jealous that Chavez has nationalized it (i.e. taken what is rightfully theirs) and has set out to make him out to be Pol Pot or something. (Coincidentally, the US supported Pol Pot during his reign of terror).
    Oh boy, I'm ranting again.
    Anyways, for an eye-opener, check out the film "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" full movie here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...90545689805144
    Chavez was elected democratically the same way Sadamm was. I don't buy it one bit. And to call our leader worse than Hitler and to then decry for him to be executed is a declaration of running your mouth and asking for a fat lip where I come from. Does the world really need more spewing of negative comments and dramatic rhetoric? He and Kim Jong Il should be institutionalized together so they can sit in ther piadded rooms convincing themselves that they are important enough to actually warrant the US trying to make a move on....typical megalomaniac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak101
    Chavez was elected democratically the same way Sadamm was. I don't buy it one bit. And to call our leader worse than Hitler and to then decry for him to be executed is a declaration of running your mouth and asking for a fat lip where I come from. Does the world really need more spewing of negative comments and dramatic rhetoric? He and Kim Jong Il should be institutionalized together so they can sit in ther piadded rooms convincing themselves that they are important enough to actually warrant the US trying to make a move on....typical megalomaniac.
    Let him talk. aslong as the oil keeps coming he can say whatever the **** he wants. Just another nutjob in the world that has to focuse on outside issues to cover for his inability to fix his own country I recon.

    Seems like the shittier the country those people are in charge of the more they scream about stuff that doesnt concern them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    Let him talk. aslong as the oil keeps coming he can say whatever the **** he wants. Just another nutjob in the world that has to focuse on outside issues to cover for his inability to fix his own country I recon.

    Seems like the shittier the country those people are in charge of the more they scream about stuff that doesnt concern them.
    EXACTLY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak101
    EXACTLY
    Its probably propaganda 101. Keep the people beliving someone else is responsible for the mess and they will support you no matter how hard you **** em.

    Chaves should take a look at the malnutrition among children and the extreme infant mortality instead of wasting billions on russian arms as cock extender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak101
    Chavez was elected democratically the same way Sadamm was. I don't buy it one bit. And to call our leader worse than Hitler and to then decry for him to be executed is a declaration of running your mouth and asking for a fat lip where I come from. Does the world really need more spewing of negative comments and dramatic rhetoric? He and Kim Jong Il should be institutionalized together so they can sit in ther piadded rooms convincing themselves that they are important enough to actually warrant the US trying to make a move on....typical megalomaniac.
    Well, no, not like Saddam. You see, Saddam was installed by the CIA in a coup. Chavez wasn't, as the US opposes Chavez and supported a coup against him. The Venezuelan elections were monitored by many groups, including US ones. Comparing Chavez to Kim Jong Il is ridiculous. CHavez doesn't have or seek nukes.
    And why is it OK for US leaders to call others worse than Hitler, but not vice-versa. And "asking for a fat lip"? Wow, how democratic and fair. So free speech, free markets, privatization, competition are great, UNLESS, of course, they aren't in the US's best interests, in which case they are evil. So Saudi Arabia is A-OK in the US's book, but Venezuela isn't. Great.

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    Its bad we cant have reagan back. He could stick a cruise missle in his back door.

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    Saddam, Bush jr, Rumsfield, Chertoff, Giuliani, Sherone, should all hang from the same gallows, Oh and netnyahoo or however you spell his name.....PS.......Dov Zakheim, Marvin Bush.....They will all be tried in the court of HUMUNGUS,(similar to Nuremburgh)..............
    For the death toll of every American who was either forced to, or by contract gave their life for TWAT....(The War Against Terrorism!!)

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    humungo-not and pimpboy

    You guys are really operatives for the DNC aren't you? C'mon guys fess up. I mean only some very immature, socially and politcally stunted neophytes could conjure up the comments you two have made...even if one of you are from Canada. I don't think you'll get flamed...you're not worth it.

    And Mike Dura-cell...well

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpdawgin
    If the US can keep interfering in and even invading foreign countries, what's the harm in Chavez running his mouth about Bush? And by the way, Chavez was elected democratically, and just because the West doesn't like him doesnt make him a dictator. The West supports tons of awful, psychotic dictatorships all over the world. Compared to some that the West has supported, Chavez is an angel. Yeah, I'm gonna get ragged on for being a commie, terrorist, the usual names, etc. But whatever. Venzuela's got oil, the US is jealous that Chavez has nationalized it (i.e. taken what is rightfully theirs) and has set out to make him out to be Pol Pot or something. (Coincidentally, the US supported Pol Pot during his reign of terror).
    Oh boy, I'm ranting again.
    Anyways, for an eye-opener, check out the film "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" full movie here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...90545689805144
    News flash, Bush was elected as well, by the majority of US citizens. You don't have to like that, and your probable vote says that most don't care if you like it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Dura
    Good points. It sounds like you take the time to find out what's going on before you shoot your mouth. You're a good role model for many on this site!
    Your right!! Obviously only the US thinks that Chavez is a nut job, that's why his country was elected to hold the rotating seat in the UN security Counsel.......NOT!!!

    It is nice to see that you have limited your posts to one paragraph though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ufa
    I did not vote for Bush however, I don't take kindly when foreign
    ass hole's bad mouth my President. He should keep his big nose
    in his own country. I'd send special ops to eliminate the MF.
    It is nice to have a moderate on board here, helps balance the rest of us out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    It is nice to have a moderate on board here, helps balance the rest of us out.
    LMAO !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpdawgin
    Well, no, not like Saddam. You see, Saddam was installed by the CIA in a coup.

    Yes he was, and then he held "democratic elections" every now and then in which he received 99% of the popular vote. Even a Jew could pull more than 1% of the popular vote in Iraq in 1996.

    Chavez wasn't, as the US opposes Chavez and supported a coup against him. The Venezuelan elections were monitored by many groups, including US ones. Comparing Chavez to Kim Jong Il is ridiculous. Chavez doesn't have or seek nukes.

    Last I heard they were both small fish splashing around in a big pond

    And why is it OK for US leaders to call others worse than Hitler, but not vice-versa. And "asking for a fat lip"? Wow, how democratic and fair. So free speech, free markets, privatization, competition are great, UNLESS, of course, they aren't in the US's best interests, in which case they are evil. So Saudi Arabia is A-OK in the US's book, but Venezuela isn't. Great.
    It is a foreign leader encouraging the death of my country's leader. Shove fair up your ass, I'll be sure to start calling your PM the devil and say he should be hanged.

    All he does is firebrand the same nonsense Iran and N Korea do. If you don't have something more important to say that cannot be said by someone of more importance,

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    How does a guy throwing irrational statements around like that get elected as leader of a country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ufa
    Chavez was not fairly elected. I've been to Venezeula and the people
    hate him and riot in the streets. Chavez and the other big mouth's
    will get their just deserts. Bush ain't to popular with us Americans
    but we pull together when out siders start talking trash. Thats a good
    way to provoke a red neck into doing a little ass kicking. As a matter
    of fact that's why Sadam is going to hang.
    "The people" hate him, you say? Well, Bush is hated by many in America, and protest in the streets. Does that mean he wan't elected. Of course some will protest. But that doesn't mean he wasn't elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNoMac
    How does a guy throwing irrational statements around like that get elected as leader of a country?
    The same way Bush got elected. I've heard Bush make just as many outlandish, irrational statements as Chavez. He was elected, wasn't he?

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