US town bars foreign flags in swipe at immigrants

[Logan13]

US town bars foreign flags in swipe at immigrants
Reuters
Nov. 16, 2006
PHOENIX (Reuters) - A Nevada town passed a law this week making it illegal to fly a foreign nation's flag by itself, the latest swipe by a U.S. community at illegal immigrants.

The town council of Pahrump, which lies in the Mojave Desert west of Las Vegas, voted 3-2 on Tuesday to make flying any foreign flag above the U.S. flag or alone an offense punishable by a $50 fine and 30 hours' community service.

The meeting also pushed through measures to deny services to illegal immigrants and make English the official language in Pahrump, a commuter town of 40,000 residents some 60 miles (97 km) west of Las Vegas.

Supporters said they passed the measure to hit back at Hispanic demonstrators who carried Mexican flags when they marched in U.S. cities earlier this year to press for rights for 10 million to 12 million illegal immigrants living in the shadows.

"All of the illegal alien protesters are waving Mexican flags, and we just got tired of it," town board clerk Paul Willis told Reuters in a telephone interview.

"This is the United States, and the Stars and Stripes should fly supreme," he added.

Hispanic groups slammed the flag ordinance as a blow to first-amendment rights to free speech but thought it unlikely that the community would enforce it.

"It is clearly unconstitutional, but given that Pahrump that is such a small town, I don't think they are going to be hiring any flag police any time soon." said John Trasvina, the president and general counsel of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

In passing the bylaw, the town joined several other communities from California to Pennsylvania that have passed laws curbing illegal immigrants in recent months.

Among them are Escondido, in southern California, and Hazleton in Pennsylvania, where councilors barred landlords from renting to undocumented aliens and denied them access to services.

In Texas, where a third of the citizens are Hispanic, the Dallas suburb of Farmers Branch this week enacted laws fining landlords who rent to illegal immigrants and making English the official language.

Texas lawmakers preparing for the next legislative session in January filed bills this week to block state assistance to illegal immigrants and their children and to tax money transfers to Mexico, according to the bills.

[mcpeepants]

so much for freedom. so what are we "fighting" in Iraq for?

[Logan13]

so much for freedom. so what are we "fighting" in Iraq for?

The city is sending a message to the illegals, too bad that you do not get it.

[mcpeepants]

The city is sending a message to the illegals, too bad that you do not get it.

all there doing is ripping the bill of rights. bye bye first admentment (and it applies to citizens who fly foreign flags too)

A Nevada town passed a law this week making it illegal to fly a foreign nation's flag by itself, the latest swipe by a U.S. community at illegal immigrants.

That's swipping at everybody (illegal or not)

[I_AM_HE]

thats ART BELLS home town nice place sorry the dirty wet backs are there also

[biglouie250]

would they have the same opinion if they were flying the rebel flag?

[Phreak101]

all there doing is ripping the bill of rights. bye bye first admentment (and it applies to citizens who fly foreign flags too)

A Nevada town passed a law this week making it illegal to fly a foreign nation's flag by itself, the latest swipe by a U.S. community at illegal immigrants.

That's swipping at everybody (illegal or not)

They made it illegal to fly it alone or above an American flag.

That is a step in the right direction, no question about it. Don't come to this country illegaly and then expect to take advantage of it's freedom. You're more than welcome to celebrate your heritage, but embrace ours as well, do not disrepect this country by flying a different flag. If you live here, you're AMERICAN. If you're not a citizen, , the first amendment does not apply to you.

[Phreak101]

[QUOTE=I_AM_HE]thats ART BELLS home town nice place sorry the dirty *Edited* are there also/QUOTE]

Not a good way to try to break 100 posts....

[Animal Cracker]

so much for freedom. so what are we "fighting" in Iraq for?

For money..for corporations...for Iraqis...not so cholos can wave the Mexican flag at their trailor parks.

[J.S.N.]

heil!

[Phreak101]

For money..for corporations...for Iraqis...not so cholos can wave the Mexican flag at their trailor parks.

[mcpeepants]

For money..for corporations...for Iraqis...not so cholos can wave the Mexican flag at their trailor parks.

For money and for corporations I agree with, for Iraqis nope. that's not what the administration and their supporters keeping saying. and the law effects everyone citizen or not.

[spywizard]

freedom of speach??? for people that are in the united states illegally??

no I don't believe it extends to them..

goodbye..

[mcpeepants]

freedom of speach??? for people that are in the united states illegally??

no I don't believe it extends to them..

goodbye..

A Nevada town passed a law this week making it illegal to fly a foreign nation's flag by itself, the latest swipe by a U.S. community at illegal immigrants.

it applies to everybody

[Phreak101]

A Nevada town passed a law this week making it illegal to fly a foreign nation's flag by itself, the latest swipe by a U.S. community at illegal immigrants.

it applies to everybody

I'd imagine that the only people flying non-US flags are illegal immigrants. Here in Chicago, every ****in Mexican has some HUGE Mexican flag flying off their attenae or their house, and they don't speak a word of English 90% of the time. Fly it with the US flag, is that so hard?

[Carlos_E]

thats ART BELLS home town nice place sorry the dirty *Edited* are there also

I_AM_HE. You make another crack like that and you will be suspended or banned. No questions asked.

[Carlos_E]

I'd imagine that the only people flying non-US flags are illegal immigrants.

That is not true. Legal immagrants from other countries fly their flag. Italians, Domincans... Hell I've seen Lithuanians do it.

[biglouie250]

That is not true. Legal immagrants from other countries fly their flag. Italians, Domincans... Hell I've seen Lithuanians do it.

shhh dont tell anyone i wore an italian world cup jeresy.....i must be an immigrant.

[Carlos_E]

shhh dont tell anyone i wore an italian world cup jeresy.....i must be an immigrant.

Will you clean my yard for $1 an hour?

[biglouie250]

Will you clean my yard for $1 an hour?

no italians work for dried sausage and wine!!!!

[Phreak101]

That is not true. Legal immagrants from other countries fly their flag. Italians, Domincans... Hell I've seen Lithuanians do it.

And that's great! But put it up with an American flag! Don't shit where you eat!

[Carlos_E]

And that's great! But put it up with an American flag! Don't shit where you eat!

That is not shitting where you eat. It's not forgetting where you came from. I see nothing wrong with it.

[Phreak101]

That is not shitting where you eat. It's not forgetting where you came from. I see nothing wrong with it.

That's the difference between you and me then.

Illegals come here, contribute 50 million in taxes, suck up 580 million dollars in benefits, and have the balls to fly Mexican flags and demand American rights....I will always see something wrong with that.

[Carlos_E]

That's the difference between you and me then.

Illegals come here, contribute 50 million in taxes, suck up 580 million dollars in benefits, and have the balls to fly Mexican flags and demand American rights....I will always see something wrong with that.

I'm not speaking of illegal immigrants I'm talking about LEGAL immigrants and natural born citizens who cannot fly any other flag besides the US flag. As I said, illegals are not the only people who fly other flags.

[Phreak101]

I'm not speaking of illegal immigrants I'm talking about LEGAL immigrants and natural born citizens who cannot fly any other flag besides the US flag. As I said, illegals are not the only people who fly other flags.

Well I agree, I just happen to live near an area with over 400,000 Mexicans in it, the majority of which are not legal, and it drives me bat shit.

[Carlos_E]

Well I agree, I just happen to live near an area with over 400,000 Mexicans in it, the majority of which are not legal, and it drives me bat shit.

My boyfriend is a natural born US citizen mixed French & Dominican. He has a Dominican and French flag hanging from his review mirror. Would you complain about that or you just don't like it when Mexicans do it?

[3Vandoo]

so what, you are in bum**** nevada, flying anything other than an american flag is normal anyway

Hell yeah to it!

In rome do like the romans!

[Logan13]

all there doing is ripping the bill of rights. bye bye first admentment (and it applies to citizens who fly foreign flags too)

A Nevada town passed a law this week making it illegal to fly a foreign nation's flag by itself, the latest swipe by a U.S. community at illegal immigrants.

That's swipping at everybody (illegal or not)

So much for patriotism. Illegal immigrant sneaks into this country(i.e. breaking our laws), and than marches down the street waving the Mexican flag as a snub. The Bill of Rights does NOT apply to illegal immigrants, what part of this do you not understand. It is not as though all one must do is sneak across the border and than we are supposed to welcome them with all of the rights that this country has to offer, that is not how it works..........The only have the right to be prosecuted and sent back to Mexico.

[Logan13]

Will you clean my yard for $1 an hour?

Now that is funny!!!

[Phreak101]

My boyfriend is a natural born US citizen mixed French & Dominican. He has a Dominican and French flag hanging from his review mirror. Would you complain about that or you just don't like it when Mexicans do it?

The principle of it drives me insane. Natural citizens don't bother me, and hanging from his mirror is not "flying the flag". Your b/f also pays his taxes, got his citizenship, and probably would not mind flying an American flag on the 4th of July (maybe he would, forgive me for speculating). That's AOK with me.

My problem is ILLEGALS doing it. I don't like it when illegals (I'm partial to Mexicans because they are the majority of illegal immigrants around me and in this country) do it because they are not embracing the very country they are raping on a daily basis. Seeing huge Mexican flags on cars, outside homes, it alienates US citizens in their own towns. It is also a sign of respect. if you are going to live in this country and demand rights you have not even earned yet, at LEAST have the decency to fly the flag of the country you are exploiting AND demanding things from.

Playing politically correct has become wishy washy, and it's obvious by the actions of the states recently that American citizens are fed up with immigrants coming here and purposely trying to warp their surrounding to fit their wants rather than embracing the idea of America. Fly the Mexican flag all you want, but make sure it's under a US flag if you're going to be here. It's PRINCIPLE!

[Logan13]

My boyfriend is a natural born US citizen mixed French & Dominican. He has a Dominican and French flag hanging from his review mirror. Would you complain about that or you just don't like it when Mexicans do it?

Sorry, Carlos. This takes me back to the day that you first talked about your boyfriend and someone else used the above icon............

[Phreak101]

Sorry, Carlos. This takes me back to the day that you first talked about your boyfriend and someone else used the above icon............

Haha I remember that, the guy was like "WTF dude, are you gay or something?"

Hahaha give Dr Obvious a prize

[Carlos_E]

The principle of it drives me insane. Natural citizens don't bother me, and hanging from his mirror is not "flying the flag". Your b/f also pays his taxes, got his citizenship, and probably would not mind flying an American flag on the 4th of July (maybe he would, forgive me for speculating).

He's in the military and proud of being a US citizen. My point is you can fly another flag and still be a proud American.

[Carlos_E]

Sorry, Carlos. This takes me back to the day that you first talked about your boyfriend and someone else used the above icon............

Haha I remember that, the guy was like "WTF dude, are you gay or something?"

Hahaha give Dr Obvious a prize

Yup and I give my usually reply. I'm not gay but my boyfriend is.

[Phreak101]

He's in the military and proud of being a US citizen. My point is you can fly another flag and still be a proud American.

Wholeheartedly agree.

[Logan13]

He's in the military and proud of being a US citizen. My point is you can fly another flag and still be a proud American.

thank him for his service.

[mcpeepants]

I'd imagine that the only people flying non-US flags are illegal immigrants. Here in Chicago, every ****in Mexican has some HUGE Mexican flag flying off their attenae or their house, and they don't speak a word of English 90% of the time. Fly it with the US flag, is that so hard?

Many people fly foreign flags. I saw a lot of italian flags flown when Italy won the world cup. should they be fined? Limit our first amendment rights, what next, make it illegal to criticize the the government.

[mcpeepants]

So much for patriotism. Illegal immigrant sneaks into this country(i.e. breaking our laws), and than marches down the street waving the Mexican flag as a snub. The Bill of Rights does NOT apply to illegal immigrants, what part of this do you not understand. It is not as though all one must do is sneak across the border and than we are supposed to welcome them with all of the rights that this country has to offer, that is not how it works..........The only have the right to be prosecuted and sent back to Mexico.

It says right in the article, that you can't fly a foreign flag without the US flag. This laws applies to citizens, legal residents, and illegals. You keep avoiding that point. Are you implying only illegals fly foreign flags?

[Logan13]

It says right in the article, that you can't fly a foreign flag without the US flag. This laws applies to citizens, legal residents, and illegals. You keep avoiding that point. Are you implying only illegals fly foreign flags?

I am not avoiding the point, you are missing it. This law was enacted in a town that has had alot of illegals spitting in the eye of the US and it's citizens are tired of it. It is not as though this is US law, so quit getting your pantys in a bunch.