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    Wal-Mart 'dyke' book

    Wal-Mart 'dyke' book gone after WND story
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    'How-to' lesbian manual for teen girls pulled, but retail giant offers only vague explanation

    Wal-Mart is refusing to explain why a sexually explicit manual on how to be a lesbian was pulled suddenly from its website just hours after a WND story about the product appeared.

    Family organizations in Canada had warned about the book just weeks ago, and while it calls God a "fat black dyke" and provides how-to information for same-sex experimentation, the store described it as the "stuff youth need to know."

    It's called "The Little Black Book for Girlz: A Book on Healthy Sexuality" and is produced by St. Stephens' Community House in Toronto, an organization that has fled its Christian foundation.

    The book was posted on the site through late yesterday and early today, but suddenly disappeared. WND asked Wal-Mart to explain what had happened to the book listing and why the change was made, and the company provided only a generic response that didn't answer any questions.

    "Hi Bob, Here is our response to your question regarding 'The Little Black Book for Girls,'" said the e-mail.

    "As an online retailer, we continue to make business decisions every day about our merchandise assortments. In addition to other categories on our site, we continually modify our book selection based on our customers' current interests and preferences.

    "Thanks, P.K. Van Deloo, Spokesperson, Walmart.com."

    Wal-Mart had been advertising the book as "a great mix of real-life examples and life-saving info," and it includes a section called, "My First Time F---ing a Girl" and other obscenities. It has information on "safe" sex devices and assures its audience that condoms are 100 percent effective in preventing sexually transmitted diseases, even though the World Health Organization, a longtime condom supporter, admits they fail one out of five times.

    A WND reader from Kentucky said that was all the information needed.

    "Walmart – 'low prices – low values.' That's all I need to know. I'll find somewhere else to shop. They certainly don't need or deserve business from the '10 percent of the population [that is] heterosexual,'" the reader said.

    Another said Christians should exercise their moral right to choose where to shop.

    "Christian – make a stand and tell Walmart 'NO MORE MONEY FROM US UNTIL YOU CLEAN IT UP,'" wrote Robert Lloyd. "JUST SAY NO MORE – loud and clear – they will get the message."

    The alarm about the book initially was raised by Joseph Ben-Ami, the executive director of the Institute for Canadian Values, who told WND this fall that Canadian officials were considering using the book in public schools.

    "We have to find a way to stop this from happening," Ben-Ami told WND at the time. "People don't know this is happening."

    The graphic manual promotes lesbianism to young girls, gives explicit instructions for engaging in oral or anal sexual acts and instructs girls that only 10 percent of the population is heterosexual.

    A report from LifeSiteNews.com said the book also recommends sewing latex squares into their underwear "for added fun."

    The online catalog for Wal-Mart, just before the item was removed, listed the book price at $11.58, and it said the manual is "not just a book about sex, but a look at girl culture by teenagers. No stuffy school textbook. No nosy adults. … "

    "It's all stuff that youth need to know…The Little Black Book for Girlz is an important, take-anywhere empowerment guide. Girls shouldn't leave their teen years without it."

    When WND reported on the issue in September, the full text was available online at St. Stephen's House but it was removed shortly after the WND report surfaced then too.

    Ben-Ami called it, "a thinly veiled propaganda piece that undermines healthy parent-child relationships, substitutes voodoo myths for actual science, and provides advice that, if followed, will certainly result in real and serious harm to those who follow it."

    It tells girls that most parents are homophobes. "So are children until they get minds of their own," it said.

    St. Stephen's declined several opportunities to respond to questions about the book. The center was started by the Anglican Diocese in 1962 and "was" a Christian-based organization until 1974. It now gets government money, almost $8 million this year.

    If "you need someone to represent God The Holiness, then for me, it's a fat black dyke" the book tells readers.

    "What this statement has to do with healthy emotional and sexual development is beyond us," Ben-Ami said.

    His concern is that Canadian authorities now are reviewing the guide for its possible uses. In Canada, which legalized same-sex marriage about a year ago, school curricula that refers to a man-and-woman as a couple has to be dropped.

    "'The Little Black Book' is one of the most obscene and irresponsible 'educational' books we have come across," said the Canadian family institute. "Canadians from all walks of life need to take action now to ensure that children are not exposed to its harmful influence."

    Reminding readers that it's intended for fairly young girls, the online version honored the 40th anniversary of the Barbie doll with a list of recommendations for the occasion.

    Those include "Shave her head and give her a nose ring," "Have Barbie marry another Barbie," "Have her take part in an orgy," and "Give her leather bondage gear, a whip and chains."

    It also lists "Fun alternatives to intercourse: Petting, Cyber sex, phone sex, kissing, making out, blowjob" and others.

    It also offers tips about having sex that "help you make the jump and land with a smile."

    Wal-Mart, which confirmed to WND just this fall that it had joined the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, also has contributed $60,000 to the homosexual activist group called Out & Equal.

    But it also is facing protests because of its suddenly pro-homosexual advocacy.

    As WND reported in separate stories, several workers have resigned their positions with the company over its stance, and they aren't going away quietly; they are launching protests in front of local stores to alert their friends and neighbors to the company's sexual agenda.

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    and scriptfactory says society isn't in moral decline...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
    and scriptfactory says society isn't in moral decline...
    Everyone seems to have their own idea as to what morality means. Problem is, it is really not open to interpretation, you either have it or you do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Everyone seems to have their own idea as to what morality means. Problem is, it is really not open to interpretation, you either have it or you do not.
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    HA! One of the longest -- if not the longest thread in the prw forum was about whether morals were objective or subjective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Alpha,
    thanks for PM. I will get info and PM you back this weekend, I appreciate it.
    No problem.

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    Lol! Morality is that black and white huh? Don't confuse simplistic thinking with complex life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Everyone seems to have their own idea as to what morality means. Problem is, it is really not open to interpretation, you either have it or you do not.

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    thanks for PM. I will get info and PM you back this weekend, I appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Dura
    Lol! Morality is that black and white huh? Don't confuse simplistic thinking with complex life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Dura
    Lol! Morality is that black and white huh? Don't confuse simplistic thinking with complex life.
    How does one confuse simplistic thinking with complex life anyway?

    This makes no sense, very revealing that Carlos laughed at it though..........
    At least you are down to a single sentence.

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    How does one confuse simplistic thinking with complex life? You know better than me. For me, I wonder that all the time! Lol!

    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    How does one confuse simplistic thinking with complex life anyway?

    This makes no sense, very revealing that Carlos laughed at it though..........
    At least you are down to a single sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Dura
    Lol! Morality is that black and white huh? Don't confuse simplistic thinking with complex life.

    Complex life? What do you think makes life complex in regards to morality?

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    Both life and morality can be seen in many ways. In other words, it's not so simple and clear-cut. That is not to say that some people make it simple and clear-cut or "black and white." Absolute thinking in modern times leads to intolerance and destructive consequences in general.

    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
    Complex life? What do you think makes life complex in regards to morality?

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    In a broad historical peak, t's been in moral decline since day one - nothing new there. Just human nature.

    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
    and scriptfactory says society isn't in moral decline...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Dura
    In a broad historical peak, t's been in moral decline since day one - nothing new there. Just human nature.

    Is it just me, or does this statement make absolutely no sense at all?



    OK -- "In a broad historical peak," -- the nature of a peak is that it's not broad, "it's been in moral decline since day one - nothing new here." -- so if the correct term here was moral decline, it would mean that morality has diminished over time, thus being in a constant state of change and there would always be a new state of morality in the world, no?



    You try too hard to make yourself look smart and it backfires on you sometimes.
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    Exactly

    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
    Is it just me, or does this statement make absolutely no sense at all?
    OK -- "In a broad historical peak," -- the nature of a peak is that it's not broad, "it's been in moral decline since day one - nothing new here." -- so if the correct term here was moral decline, it would mean that morality has diminished over time, thus being in a constant state of change and there would always be a new state of morality in the world, no?
    You try too hard to make yourself look smart and it backfires on you sometimes.
    EXACTLY!!

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    lol, oh no! Logan is finding some validation through the "alpha!" Lol!

    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    EXACTLY!!

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    You're right, it doesn't make sense. That's what's called a typo. I meant to say "sweep" not peak. You interpret that as trying to be "too smart." I interpret it as an error. That's what makes life interesting - we all have our ways of making interpretations about the motives and intentions of others. Either those interpretations help us understand or it alienates! Either way, it makes little difference here because I have no need to be understood by people I will never meet. It makes for interesting dialogue. I'd get really bored if everyone thought or expressed themselves like me but I'd be even more bored if everyone thought and expressed themselves like you.

    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
    Is it just me, or does this statement make absolutely no sense at all?



    OK -- "In a broad historical peak," -- the nature of a peak is that it's not broad, "it's been in moral decline since day one - nothing new here." -- so if the correct term here was moral decline, it would mean that morality has diminished over time, thus being in a constant state of change and there would always be a new state of morality in the world, no?



    You try too hard to make yourself look smart and it backfires on you sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Wal-Mart had been advertising the book as "a great mix of real-life examples and life-saving info," and it includes a section called, "My First Time F---ing a Girl" and other obscenities.
    ya, like there are no other books or magazines that speak of guys f---ing girls, right? And these people have never seen any of those books?







    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    It has information on "safe" sex devices and assures its audience that condoms are 100 percent effective in preventing sexually transmitted diseases, even though the World Health Organization, a longtime condom supporter, admits they fail one out of five times.
    Were they speaking of women's condoms, or men's condoms? And did they qualify that statement in the book?

    Seems to me that this bizarre source of information, "WorldNet News" usually tweaks the news to suit its own purposes -- I doubt we're getting the entire story here . . .










    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Ben-Ami called it, "a thinly veiled propaganda piece that . . . substitutes voodoo myths for actual science . . ."
    Not unlike the way these idiots substitute "creation science" for real science in schools.







    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    It tells girls that most parents are homophobes."
    Well, most parents are homophobic. Some are beyond hope, others can reform, with a little help.






    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    The center was started by the Anglican Diocese in 1962 and "was" a Christian-based organization until 1974.
    Ah, so now we get to play the game, "Christian, Christian, who's the Real Christian?" And maybe we can burn the infidels like they used to back in the good ol' days . . .







    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    It now gets government money, almost $8 million this year.
    A drop in the bucket, compared to the billions given to Christian organizations (like Catholic Charities, Salvation Army, YMCA, etc etc) each year.







    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    If "you need someone to represent God The Holiness, then for me, it's a fat black dyke" the book tells readers.
    So what?
    Looks like somebody has a thin skin . . .








    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    "'The Little Black Book' is one of the most obscene and irresponsible 'educational' books we have come across," said the Canadian family institute. "Canadians from all walks of life need to take action now to ensure that children are not exposed to its harmful influence."
    Let's have a good old-fashioned book burning!
    Truth is, these idiots want to ban Frankenstein, Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs, Harry Potter, and lots of other harmless books.
    http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedboo...ngedbanned.htm
    If these idiots want to get picky about things, well, there's lots of stuff in the Bible that isn't very pretty -- tales about guys pimping their wives, erotic talk about women's bodies, tales of adultery, killing a woman's husband to make her available for sex, all sorts of stuff. It's full of other moral defects, too . . . so these idiots shouldn't be throwing rocks in their glass houses . . .








    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Wal-Mart, which confirmed to WND just this fall that it had joined the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, also has contributed $60,000 to the homosexual activist group called Out & Equal.
    So what? Should Wal-Mart quit giving to all charities? Your right-wing religious church groups would lose out on a lot more $$$ than just $60k they gave to Out & Equal.






    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    As WND reported in separate stories, several workers have resigned their positions with the company over its stance, and they aren't going away quietly; they are launching protests in front of local stores to alert their friends and neighbors to the company's sexual agenda.
    I sure haven't seen anyone protesting.
    I don't think anyone really cares . . . .
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    Fuk Tock, In a bad mood tonight? I obviously did not write this.
    Someone has to post this stuff, the NY Times sure as hell will not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Fuk Tock, In a bad mood tonight? I obviously did not write this.
    Someone has to post this stuff, the NY Times sure as hell will not.
    It's pure BS, not worth posting here.

    JHC, it's like you're trying to turn this forum into a freak show.

    Why not just stick to posting worthwhile news stories that actually affect people's lives instead of this National Enquirer grade stuff you've been posting?


    Sheesh . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    It's pure BS, not worth posting here.

    JHC, it's like you're trying to turn this forum into a freak show.

    Why not just stick to posting worthwhile news stories that actually affect people's lives instead of this National Enquirer grade stuff you've been posting?


    Sheesh . . .
    This is what is going on in the world, tough shit if you do not like it. Perhaps I should get your OK on everything before I post. It is no worse than your daily religious fodder...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Fuk Tock, In a bad mood tonight? I obviously did not write this.
    Someone has to post this stuff, the NY Times sure as hell will not.
    Keep pluggin bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Fuk Tock, In a bad mood tonight? I obviously did not write this.
    Someone has to post this stuff, the NY Times sure as hell will not.
    The NY Times won't print this bogus BS because it's bogus BS.

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    Yeah, because the NY times is written by educated, mature minds for educated, mature minds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Fuk Tock, In a bad mood tonight? I obviously did not write this.
    Someone has to post this stuff, the NY Times sure as hell will not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Dura
    Yeah, because the NY times is written by educated, mature minds for educated, mature minds.
    Sure it is.......for the leftists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Sure it is.......for the leftists.

    I guess that he didn't catch that you mentioned the NY Times because of that......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    ya, like there are no other books or magazines that speak of guys f---ing girls, right? And these people have never seen any of those books?








    Were they speaking of women's condoms, or men's condoms? And did they qualify that statement in the book?

    Seems to me that this bizarre source of information, "WorldNet News" usually tweaks the news to suit its own purposes -- I doubt we're getting the entire story here . . .











    Not unlike the way these idiots substitute "creation science" for real science in schools.








    Well, most parents are homophobic. Some are beyond hope, others can reform, with a little help.







    Ah, so now we get to play the game, "Christian, Christian, who's the Real Christian?" And maybe we can burn the infidels like they used to back in the good ol' days . . .








    A drop in the bucket, compared to the billions given to Christian organizations (like Catholic Charities, Salvation Army, YMCA, etc etc) each year.








    So what?
    Looks like somebody has a thin skin . . .









    Let's have a good old-fashioned book burning!
    Truth is, these idiots want to ban Frankenstein, Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs, Harry Potter, and lots of other harmless books.
    http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedboo...ngedbanned.htm
    If these idiots want to get picky about things, well, there's lots of stuff in the Bible that isn't very pretty -- tales about guys pimping their wives, erotic talk about women's bodies, tales of adultery, killing a woman's husband to make her available for sex, all sorts of stuff. It's full of other moral defects, too . . . so these idiots shouldn't be throwing rocks in their glass houses . . .









    So what? Should Wal-Mart quit giving to all charities? Your right-wing religious church groups would lose out on a lot more $$$ than just $60k they gave to Out & Equal.







    I sure haven't seen anyone protesting.
    I don't think anyone really cares . . . .

    Hit a soft spot!



    First of all, how does Walmart snatching a book off the shelf merit your attack on the Bible?

    Second, justt because the Bible records something doesn't mean God commands or condones it..... But if you were going to be a preacher, you already knew that -- just grabbing for anything you can, huh?
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    Lesbians are at higher risk for STDs and other health problems than heterosexuals. However, the health consequences of lesbianism are less well documented than for male homosexuals because there are fewer lesbians than gay men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey2ness
    Lesbians are at higher risk for STDs and other health problems than heterosexuals. However, the health consequences of lesbianism are less well documented than for male homosexuals because there are fewer lesbians than gay men.
    Who told you this? Please provide a reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey2ness
    Lesbians are at higher risk for STDs and other health problems than heterosexuals.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Who told you this? Please provide a reference.
    http://www.catholiceducation.org/art...ty/ho0075.html

    The Health Risks of Gay Sex
    JOHN R. DIGGS, JR. M.D.

    Promiscuity among lesbians is less extreme, but it is still higher than among heterosexual women. Overall, women tend to have fewer sex partners than men(with men). But there is a surprising finding about lesbian promiscuity in the literature. Australian investigators reported that lesbian women were 4.5 times more likely to have had more than 50 lifetime male partners than heterosexual women (9 percent of lesbians versus 2 percent of heterosexual women); and 93 percent of women who identified themselves as lesbian reported a history of sex with men.17 Other studies similarly show that 75-90 percent of women who have sex with women have also had sex with men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey2ness
    Lesbians are at higher risk for STDs and other health problems than heterosexuals. However, the health consequences of lesbianism are less well documented than for male homosexuals because there are fewer lesbians than gay men.
    This is news to me. Where did you discover this little tid-bit? Or did you just make it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    This is news to me. Where did you discover this little tid-bit? Or did you just make it up?
    I'm assuming he made it up. This is news to me as well.
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    No way dude. Lesbian sex has a much lower risk of std's than heterosexual sex. That's for obvious reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joey2ness
    Lesbians are at higher risk for STDs and other health problems than heterosexuals. However, the health consequences of lesbianism are less well documented than for male homosexuals because there are fewer lesbians than gay men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Dura
    No way dude. Lesbian sex has a much lower risk of std's than heterosexual sex. That's for obvious reasons.
    I'm still waiting to see where he got this info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
    First of all, how does Walmart snatching a book off the shelf merit your attack on the Bible?
    If the Bible falls apart under close scrutiny, tough.




    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
    Second, justt because the Bible records something doesn't mean God commands or condones it.
    Well, the Bible records this:

    Exodus 22:18: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

    So what should all good Christians do now? Kill all the witches? Or conclude that some parts of the Bible are bogus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    If the Bible falls apart under close scrutiny, tough.





    Well, the Bible records this:

    Exodus 22:18: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
    iuy
    So what should all good Christians do now? Kill all the witches? Or conclude that some parts of the Bible are bogus?

    You know what? We're gonna really examine this. Are you ready?

    I'll be back tomorrow night.

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    Tock -- do you know the difference between the old covenenant and the new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
    Tock -- do you know the difference between the old covenenant and the new?
    Of course.

    Not many fundamentalists do, though. Otherwise they wouldn't cite all the anti-gay rules and laws in the Old Testament. And they wouldn't be so excited about the Ten Commandments, either.

    Anyway, what's your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    Of course.

    Not many fundamentalists do, though. Otherwise they wouldn't cite all the anti-gay rules and laws in the Old Testament. And they wouldn't be so excited about the Ten Commandments, either.

    Anyway, what's your point?

    WHAT!?

    Can you elaborate on this please?

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    Good, what a worthless book with a shitty purpose. Amazes me what people come up with.

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    There are plenty of worthless books out there. No need to single this one out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Good, what a worthless book with a shitty purpose. Amazes me what people come up with.

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