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    Massachusetts lawmakers approve gay marriage vote

    It's a victory for the Rule of Law, I suppose, but not for much of anything else.
    The vote was 61 For, 139 against, and the measure passed, which is the way the Massachusetts law is set up on these matters.
    What this is all about is, a bunch of voters got enough people to sign a petition to have the legislature vote to let the voters approve/disapprove gay marriage in an election. The legislature has to do approve this with 25% of the vote in two sequential years, and then the measure is put to the voters.

    Last December, the Massachusetts legislature voted to go home early, without voting on this issue (no big deal, as legislatures don't get around to lots of stuff), which effectively killed the deal. But the Christian Conservatives sued the state legislature in the State Supreme Court, trying to get the Court to make the politicians vote on the issue. The Court heard the arguements, and said, "We can't make the legislators vote on this, but according to the State Law, they are supposed to vote on this."

    Much to the credit of the Mass. State Legislature, they re-convened, voted on the issue, and as I mentioned, they voted 61 against and 139 against. A victory for the Constitutional Rule of Law, but not much else. You can expect to see lots of BS about this issue over the next two years. So, any of you gay couples up there in Massachusetts or Rhode Island, if you wanna get married, better do it quick.


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    Massachusetts lawmakers approve gay marriage vote
    By Kevin McNicholas
    Tue Jan 2, 6:50 PM ET

    BOSTON (Reuters) - Massachusetts lawmakers approved a measure on Tuesday that could give voters a chance next year to ban gay marriage in the only U.S. state where it is legal and overturn a historic ruling by the state's highest court.

    "We see this as a victory," said Kristian Mineau, president of the Massachusetts Family Institute, a conservative Christian organization.

    With hundreds of protesters on both sides of the emotionally charged issue chanting slogans outside the gold-domed Statehouse, 61 lawmakers voted to advance the proposed constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage -- more than enough needed under state law for such initiatives.

    The 200-member legislature, which has faced a grueling battle over the issue for three years, immediately moved to reconsider its vote, a step gay-marriage supporters had hoped would defeat it. But the measure passed a second vote by the same 61-132 margin.

    If it clears another legislative test expected by early next year, Massachusetts residents will vote on it in 2008.

    "If it goes to the ballot, it would be a disaster for this state," said Arline Isaacson, co-chair of the Massachusetts Gay and Lesbian Political Caucus. "The state will endure one of the nastiest and most divisive debates you've ever seen with the radical right money pouring in and an anti-gay campaign of the likes people could not possibly imagine."

    Although a majority in the Democratic-controlled state legislature voted against it, the measure needed only 50 votes to pass. It also was backed by 170,000 Massachusetts voters who signed a petition along with social conservatives including Republican Gov. Mitt Romney, a probable White House contender.

    Gay marriage advocates, including Democratic Gov.-elect Deval Patrick, had lobbied to kill the proposed amendment by pressing the state constitutional convention to recess without voting on the proposal.

    ANGERING ROMNEY

    That is what happened on November 9 when lawmakers threw their support behind gay-marriage advocates by adjourning the constitutional convention without moving on the issue, angering Romney, who then asked the state's highest court to intervene.

    The Supreme Judicial Court ruled last week that it could not force lawmakers to vote but urged them to do so anyway, saying they had a constitutional duty to vote. That statement appeared to sway legislative leaders.

    The proposed amendment, which would define marriage as between a man and a woman, now goes to a second legislative vote expected by early 2008. If it clears that hurdle, it will be added to a ballot next year for a popular vote.

    "I believe a vote to advance this question to the 2008 ballot is irresponsible and wrong," Patrick, who will be sworn in this week, said in a statement before the vote. "It would do nothing more than condemn us all to more years of debate and expense on a matter that is legally and practically settled."

    In 2003, the state Supreme Judicial Court ruled that a ban on gay marriage was unconstitutional, leading to America's first same-sex marriages the following year. More than 8,000 gay and lesbian couples have since married.

    The debate in Massachusetts comes about two weeks after New Jersey became the third U.S. state to provide equal rights for same-sex couples in committed relationships known as civil unions.

    Marriage between same-sex couples is legal in Belgium, Canada, the Netherlands, Spain and South Africa.

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    Let the voters decide..

    Let's see what the voters decide..............

    Massachusetts ban on gay marriage moves closer to voter ballot
    If Massachusetts lawmakers pass it, the measure would go before voters in 2008
    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4439965.html

    BOSTON — A proposed constitutional amendment to halt gay marriage is a step closer to making the 2008 Massachusetts ballot, but the governor-elect said today that the fight to preserve the state's unique same-sex marriage rights will continue.

    Lawmakers voted Tuesday to advance the proposed amendment, which would define marriage as the union between a man and woman.

    The measure still needs approval in the next legislative session before it can appear on the ballot, and both supporters and opponents of gay marriage promised to step up their campaigns.

    "This fight isn't over," said Democratic Gov.-elect Deval Patrick, who opposes the amendment.

    Patrick had been out of the country until Monday, and he had conducted a furious round of last-minute lobbying to try to prevent the vote Tuesday. If the Legislature had recessed Tuesday, the final day of its session, without voting, amendment supporters who had collected more than 120,000 signatures would have essentially had to start over.

    "This is democracy in action. It's not a vengeance campaign. It's not a hate campaign. It's just an opportunity for the people to vote," said Kris Mineau of the Massachusetts Family Institute, which backs the amendment.

    Gov. Mitt Romney, an opponent of gay marriage and possible candidate for the GOP 2008 presidential nomination, called the vote to advance the proposed amendment an important step on the path to the ballot box.

    "This is a huge victory for the people of Massachusetts," he said.

    About 8,000 same-sex couples have wed in Massachusetts since the Supreme Judicial Court ruled in 2003 that the state Constitution guarantees gays the right to marry. A few other states offer civil unions with similar rights for gay couples, but only Massachusetts allows gay marriage.

    "There are thousands and thousands of supporters who are committed to ensuring that the rights of a few are never put to a public popularity ballot," said Marc Solomon, campaign director for MassEquality, a gay rights group.

    House Speaker Salvatore DiMasi, who had avoided calling the proposed amendment to a vote last fall, said its wording discriminates against gays.

    One state lawmaker, Rep. Philip Travis, said the Legislature was simply upholding its duty to respond to a petition calling for a statewide vote on the issue.

    The state's high court had admonished the Legislature for avoiding a vote on the citizen petition last fall but said it had no power to intervene.

    The amendment needs to be approved by 50 members of the current Legislature and 50 members of the new Legislature before going to voters on the 2008 ballot. Tuesday's vote fulfills the first part of that process.

    Supporters of gay marriage say the tide is in their favor.

    Seventeen lawmakers who voted Tuesday won't be returning in the new legislative session, including some of the most vocal opponents of same-sex marriage. Gay marriage supporters say they will pick up a total of seven votes to block the proposed amendment in the new session, according to Solomon.

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