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    Former President Ford Called Carter Presidency a 'Disaster', Reagan's Cold War Impact

    Former President Ford Called Carter Presidency a 'Disaster', Reagan's Cold War Impact Overrated
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    01/13/07
    GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. — In 25 years of interviews with his hometown paper that could only be released upon his death, former President Gerald Ford once called Jimmy Carter a "disaster" who ranked alongside Warren Harding, and said Ronald Reagan received far too much credit for ending the Cold War.

    "It makes me very irritated when Reagan's people pound their chests and say that because we had this big military buildup, the Kremlin collapsed," Ford told The Grand Rapids Press.

    Ford contended his own negotiation of the Helsinki accords on human rights did more to win the Cold War than Reagan's military buildup.

    The best president of his lifetime, Ford said, was a more moderate Republican: Dwight D. Eisenhower.

    Harry Truman "would get very high marks" for his handling of foreign crises, Ford said. He also praised Richard Nixon as a foreign policy master, despite the Watergate scandal that drove him from office.

    Ford considered John F. Kennedy overrated and Bill Clinton average. He admired George H.W. Bush's handling of the Persian Gulf War and had mixed opinions of Carter, who defeated Ford in 1976.

    In 1981, Ford said: "I think Jimmy Carter would be very close to Warren G. Harding. I feel very strongly that Jimmy Carter was a disaster, particularly domestically and economically. I have said more than once that he was certainly the poorest president in my lifetime." no shit!

    But two years later, he praised Carter's performance on the Panama Canal treaty, China and the Middle East. And in 1998, he said Carter "will be looked on as a better president than some comments we hear today."

    "He was a very decent, fine individual," Ford told the paper. "There were no major mistakes. There just weren't a lot of exciting results."

    Ford's gave the interviews on the condition that his remarks be withheld until after his death.

    According to the newspaper, Ford declined to rate George W. Bush, saying he did not know him well enough.

    Ford said Reagan, who challenged him unsuccessfully for the GOP nomination in 1976, was "a great spokesman for attractive political objectives" such as a balanced budget and defeating communism, "but when it came to implementation, his record never matched his words."

    Reagan was "probably the least well-informed on the details of running the government of any president I knew," Ford said. In a separate interview, he said Reagan "was just a poor manager, and you can't be president and do a good job unless you manage."

    Under the 1975 Helsinki accords signed by Ford, the United States recognized borders in Soviet-dominated Eastern Europe in exchange for the Soviets' pledge to respect basic human rights.

    Ford said other key factors that won the Cold War were the Marshall Plan that helped rebuild Europe after World War II and the establishment of NATO.

    "When you put peace, prosperity and human rights against poverty, a massive unsuccessful military program and a lack of human rights, communism was bound to collapse," he said. "No president, no Democrat or Republican, can claim credit for those programs. I'll tell you who deserves the credit — the American people."

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    What a moron to even suggest there was more going on than Reagan to end the cold war

    How dare he downplay Reagans awsome evil empire crushing skillz?

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    This coming from a president who's only contribution to the US was a saturday Night live character who fell down stairs. Not to mention accomplished absolutely nothing foreign or domestic during his two year sleep-over at the white house.

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    ford should publically of said his views while he was alive instead of releasing while his dead and i think it kind of cowardly. i also think it was wrong for him to pardon nixon and surpised by how the media was praising it after he died. if nixon was tried, the american public and future presidents would think presidents are above the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpeepants
    ford should publically of said his views while he was alive instead of releasing while his dead and i think it kind of cowardly. i also think it was wrong for him to pardon nixon and surpised by how the media was praising it after he died. if nixon was tried, the american public and future presidents would think presidents are above the law.
    the media will always pretend like dead presidents were saints. i totally agree with you on the pardon. what a crock of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpeepants
    ford should publically of said his views while he was alive instead of releasing while his dead and i think it kind of cowardly. i also think it was wrong for him to pardon nixon and surpised by how the media was praising it after he died. if nixon was tried, the american public and future presidents would think presidents are above the law.
    I have to agree with you about the pardon. This wasn't just lying under oath about sex in the Oval office, there was some serious illegal activities going on under/by Nixon. I can understand not wanting to drag the US through such a long proceeding, but a slap on the wrist did not seem appropriate either, albeit he was forced to resign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    What a moron to even suggest there was more going on than Reagan to end the cold war

    How dare he downplay Reagans awsome evil empire crushing skillz?

    Its a bunch of bullshyt. NATO didnt have shit to do with the end of the cold war.

    The "massive" military they built was because of Reagan.

    I love how people want to re-write history because they dont believe in using a firm approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Its a bunch of bullshyt. NATO didnt have shit to do with the end of the cold war.

    The "massive" military they built was because of Reagan.

    I love how people want to re-write history because they dont believe in using a firm approach.

    My point is reagan and his spendings was for sure a factor in accelerating the fall of the USSR. But NOT the most important factor. Gorbachev and his glasnost and perestroika was more important. I didnt realy agree with Fords claim NATO was more important. But he is right in that Reagans role in the whole thing seems grossly overstated by reagan fans.

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    the pardon was the smart manuever whether it was right is another question. it dropped the subject and let the country move on. remember what happened during monicagate? with the hearings, and $$$ spent for nothing. big waste of time. the country needed to begin the healing process, not relive the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    My point is reagan and his spendings was for sure a factor in accelerating the fall of the USSR. But NOT the most important factor. Gorbachev and his glasnost and perestroika was more important. I didnt realy agree with Fords claim NATO was more important. But he is right in that Reagans role in the whole thing seems grossly overstated by reagan fans.
    I dont agree. So maybe you should explain why you think that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    I dont agree. So maybe you should explain why you think that.
    No mater how they try to spin it, President Reagan was a great man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    Although that cartoon was funny as hell, and Im still laughing. Reagan was a leader to be proud of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    the pardon was the smart manuever whether it was right is another question. it dropped the subject and let the country move on. remember what happened during monicagate? with the hearings, and $$$ spent for nothing. big waste of time. the country needed to begin the healing process, not relive the past.
    remember when bush and co. came out with accusations of weapons of mass destruction held by iraq, capable of being deployed in 10 minutes, a slam dunk, we know exactly where they are, boy we better get to war over there and then there were none, and it turns ot the executive branch pessured the CIA into rereleasing dated info to justify an attack, and it turns out cheney is a direct recipiant of good fortune though the war via halliburton, and there's a precedent set that presidents are off the hook so laissez faire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    remember when bush and co. came out with accusations of weapons of mass destruction held by iraq, capable of being deployed in 10 minutes, a slam dunk, we know exactly where they are, boy we better get to war over there and then there were none, and it turns ot the executive branch pessured the CIA into rereleasing dated info to justify an attack, and it turns out cheney is a direct recipiant of good fortune though the war via halliburton, and there's a precedent set that presidents are off the hook so laissez faire.

    president bush was never accused by congress of any criminal wrong doing. im not sure i understand what your saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    I dont agree. So maybe you should explain why you think that.

    Well Gorbachev lifted the censurship, allowed private investment and private companies and he made it possible for countries to withdraw from the soviet union. That lit the fire on all those people in the soviet states that had been opressed by russia for so long.

    Its because Gorbachev gave the soviet people some freedom that the whole thing went down. He gave them a little and they used it to bring him and the soviet union down. Without gorbachevs actions I doubt jeltins would have been able to take command of russia.

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    roidattack and johan are both wrong Rocky balboa brought down communism.....

    "if i could change and you can change.....EVERYBODY CAN CHANGE!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    president bush was never accused by congress of any criminal wrong doing. im not sure i understand what your saying.
    JSN knows better than Congress and the rest of the world it seems..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    roidattack and johan are both wrong Rocky balboa brought down communism.....

    "if i could change and you can change.....EVERYBODY CAN CHANGE!"
    I was cheering for drago

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    I was cheering for drago
    Dolph Ludgren is freekin huge. Haven't seen him in any movie lately...

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    Quote Originally Posted by singern
    Dolph Ludgren is freekin huge. Haven't seen him in any movie lately...
    yeah. hes a biochemist aswell and was offered a scholarship to harvard(or some other top university cant remember which one). But decided to go for acting instead.
    So big, swedish and smart as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    Well Gorbachev lifted the censurship, allowed private investment and private companies and he made it possible for countries to withdraw from the soviet union. That lit the fire on all those people in the soviet states that had been opressed by russia for so long.

    Its because Gorbachev gave the soviet people some freedom that the whole thing went down. He gave them a little and they used it to bring him and the soviet union down. Without gorbachevs actions I doubt jeltins would have been able to take command of russia.

    If we had a limp wristed Democrat in office we would have just appeased, appeased, appeased. That would have made the U.S.S.R. able to appropriate more money to domestic concerns rather than their huge defense. At the height of the cold war, their navy was bigger than ours.

    Of course it also helped that the entire country was behind him, winning his second term in a landslide.(lost only one state)

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    If we had a limp wristed Democrat in office we would have just appeased, appeased, appeased. That would have made the U.S.S.R. able to appropriate more money to domestic concerns rather than their huge defense. At the height of the cold war, their navy was bigger than ours.

    Of course it also helped that the entire country was behind him, winning his second term in a landslide.(lost only one state)
    Im not saying that the arms race didnt break the back of ussr. But I belive that they would have went down either way. The economy had been struggling for a long long time. But Im sure reagan speed it up and most defenetly gorbachev.

    The whole damn arms race was ridicilous. What does it matter if someone has 100 ships or 1000 ships when you got 20 000 nuclear warheads. Two nations involved in the most expensive penis measuring contest in the history of mankind. Im glad the states had the bigger cock though

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