Please Open Your Eyes To This!!!

[Superhuman]

http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/136744

Kevin Haggerty

By the time my four-year-old son is swathed in the soft flesh of old age, he will likely find it unremarkable that he and almost everyone he knows will be permanently implanted with a microchip. Automatically tracking his location in real time, it will connect him with databases monitoring and recording his smallest behavioural traits.

Most people anticipate such a prospect with a sense of horrified disbelief, dismissing it as a science-fiction fantasy. The technology, however, already exists. For years humane societies have implanted all the pets that leave their premises with a small identifying microchip. As well, millions of consumer goods are now traced with tiny radio frequency identification chips that allow satellites to reveal their exact location.

A select group of people are already "chipped" with devices that automatically open doors, turn on lights, and perform other low-level miracles. Prominent among such individuals is researcher Kevin Warwick of Reading University in England; Warwick is a leading proponent of the almost limitless potential uses for such chips.

Other users include the patrons of the Baja Beach Club in Barcelona, many of whom have paid about $150 (U.S.) for the privilege of being implanted with an identifying chip that allows them to bypass lengthy club queues and purchase drinks by being scanned. These individuals are the advance guard of an effort to expand the technology as widely as possible.

From this point forward, microchips will become progressively smaller, less invasive, and easier to ***loy. Thus, any realistic barrier to the wholesale "chipping" of Western citizens is not technological but cultural. It relies upon the visceral reaction against the prospect of being personally marked as one component in a massive human inventory.

Today we might strongly hold such beliefs, but sensibilities can, and probably will, change. How this remarkable attitudinal transformation is likely to occur is clear to anyone who has paid attention to privacy issues over the past quarter-century. There will be no 3 a.m. knock on the door by storm troopers come to force implants into our bodies. The process will be more subtle and cumulative, couched in the unassailable language of progress and social betterment, and mimicking many of the processes that have contributed to the expansion of closed-circuit television cameras and the corporate market in personal data.

A series of tried and tested strategies will be marshalled to familiarize citizens with the technology. These will be coupled with efforts to pressure tainted social groups and entice the remainder of the population into being chipped.

This, then, is how the next generation will come to be microchipped.

It starts in distant countries. Having tested the technology on guinea pigs, both human and animal, the first widespread use of human implanting will occur in nations at the periphery of the Western world. Such developments are important in their own right, but their international significance pertains to how they familiarize a global audience with the technology and habituate them to the idea that chipping represents a potential future.

An increasing array of hypothetical chipping scenarios will also be ***icted in entertainment media, furthering the familiarization process.

In the West, chips will first be implanted in members of stigmatized groups. Pedophiles are the leading candidate for this distinction, although it could start with terrorists, drug dealers, or whatever happens to be that year's most vilified criminals. Short-lived promises will be made that the technology will only be used on the "worst of the worst." In fact, the wholesale chipping of incarcerated individuals will quickly ensue, encompassing people on probation and on parole.

Even accused individuals will be tagged, a measure justified on the grounds that it would stop them from fleeing justice. Many prisoners will welcome this development, since only chipped inmates will be eligible for parole, weekend release, or community sentences. From the prison system will emerge an evocative vocabulary distinguishing chippers from non-chippers.

Although the chips will be justified as a way to reduce fraud and other crimes, criminals will almost immediately develop techniques to simulate other people's chip codes and manipulate their data.

The comparatively small size of the incarcerated population, however, means that prisons would be simply a brief stopover on a longer voyage. Commercial success is contingent on making serious inroads into tagging the larger population of law-abiding citizens. Other stigmatized groups will therefore be targeted. This will undoubtedly entail monitoring welfare recipients, a move justified to reduce fraud, enhance efficiency, and ensure that the poor do not receive "undeserved" benefits.

Once e-commerce is sufficiently advanced, welfare recipients will receive their benefits as electronic vouchers stored on their microchips, a policy that will be tinged with a sense of righteousness, as it will help ensure that clients can only purchase government-approved goods from select merchants, reducing the always disconcerting prospect that poor people might use their limited funds to purchase alcohol or tobacco.

Civil libertarians will try to foster a debate on these developments. Their attempts to prohibit chipping will be handicapped by the inherent difficulty in animating public sympathy for criminals and welfare recipients — groups that many citizens are only too happy to see subjected to tighter regulation. Indeed, the lesser public concern for such groups is an inherent part of the unarticulated rationale for why coerced chipping will be disproportionately directed at the stigmatized.

The official privacy arm of the government will now take up the issue. Mandated to determine the legality of such initiatives, privacy commissioners and Senate Committees will produce a forest of reports presented at an archipelago of international conferences. Hampered by lengthy research and publication timelines, their findings will be delivered long after the widespread adoption of chipping is effectively a fait accompli. The research conclusions on the effectiveness of such technologies will be mixed and open to interpretation.

Officials will vociferously reassure the chipping industry that they do not oppose chipping itself, which has fast become a growing commercial sector. Instead, they are simply seeking to ensure that the technology is used fairly and that data on the chips is not misused. New policies will be drafted.

Employers will start to expect implants as a condition of getting a job. The U.S. military will lead the way, requiring chips for all soldiers as a means to enhance battlefield command and control — and to identify human remains. From cooks to commandos, every one of the more than one million U.S. military personnel will see microchips replace their dog tags.

Following quickly behind will be the massive security sector. Security guards, police officers, and correctional workers will all be expected to have a chip. Individuals with sensitive jobs will find themselves in the same position.

The first signs of this stage are already apparent. In 2004, the Mexican attorney general's office started implanting employees to restrict access to secure areas. The category of "sensitive occupation" will be expansive to the point that anyone with a job that requires keys, a password, security clearance, or identification badge will have those replaced by a chip.

Judges hearing cases on the constitutionality of these measures will conclude that chipping policies are within legal limits. The thin veneer of "voluntariness" coating many of these programs will allow the judiciary to maintain that individuals are not being coerced into using the technology.

In situations where the chips are clearly forced on people, the judgments will deem them to be undeniable infringements of the right to privacy. However, they will then invoke the nebulous and historically shifting standard of "reasonableness" to pronounce coerced chipping a reasonable infringement on privacy rights in a context of demands for governmental efficiency and the pressing need to enhance security in light of the still ongoing wars on terror, drugs, and crime.

At this juncture, an unfortunately common tragedy of modern life will occur: A small child, likely a photogenic toddler, will be murdered or horrifically abused. It will happen in one of the media capitals of the Western world, thereby ensuring non-stop breathless coverage. Chip manufactures will recognize this as the opportunity they have been anticipating for years. With their technology now largely bug-free, familiar to most citizens and comparatively inexpensive, manufacturers will partner with the police to launch a high-profile campaign encouraging parents to implant their children "to ensure your own peace of mind."

Special deals will be offered. Implants will be free, providing the family registers for monitoring services. Loving but unnerved parents will be reassured by the ability to integrate tagging with other functions on their PDA so they can see their child any time from any place.

Paralleling these developments will be initiatives that employ the logic of convenience to entice the increasingly small group of holdouts to embrace the now common practice of being tagged. At first, such convenience tagging will be reserved for the highest echelon of Western society, allowing the elite to move unencumbered through the physical and informational corridors of power. Such practices will spread more widely as the benefits of being chipped become more prosaic. Chipped individuals will, for example, move more rapidly through customs.

Indeed, it will ultimately become a condition of using mass-transit systems that officials be allowed to monitor your chip. Companies will offer discounts to individuals who pay by using funds stored on their embedded chip, on the small-print condition that the merchant can access large swaths of their personal data. These "discounts" are effectively punitive pricing schemes, charging unchipped individuals more as a way to encourage them to submit to monitoring. Corporations will seek out the personal data in hopes of producing ever more fine-grained customer profiles for marketing purposes, and to sell to other institutions.

By this point all major organizations will be looking for opportunities to capitalize on the possibilities inherent in an almost universally chipped population. The uses of chips proliferate, as do the types of discounts. Each new generation of household technology becomes configured to operate by interacting with a person's chip.

Finding a computer or appliance that will run though old-fashioned "hands-on"' interactions becomes progressively more difficult and costly. Patients in hospitals and community care will be routinely chipped, allowing medical staff — or, more accurately, remote computers — to monitor their biological systems in real time.

Eager to reduce the health costs associated with a largely docile citizenry, authorities will provide tax incentives to individuals who exercise regularly. Personal chips will be remotely monitored to ensure that their heart rate is consistent with an exercise regime.

By now, the actual process of "chipping" for many individuals will simply involve activating certain functions of their existing chip. Any prospect of removing the chip will become increasingly untenable, as having a chip will be a precondition for engaging in the main dynamics of modern life, such as shopping, voting, and driving.

The remaining holdouts will grow increasingly weary of Luddite jokes and subtle accusations that they have something to hide. Exasperated at repeatedly watching neighbours bypass them in "chipped" lines while they remain subject to the delays, inconveniences, and costs reserved for the unchipped, they too will choose the path of least resistance and get an implant.

In one generation, then, the cultural distaste many might see as an innate reaction to the prospect of having our bodies marked like those of an inmate in a concentration camp will likely fade.

In the coming years some of the most powerful institutional actors in society will start to align themselves to entice, coerce, and occasionally compel the next generation to get an implant.

Now, therefore, is the time to contemplate the unprecedented dangers of this scenario. The most serious of these concern how even comparatively stable modern societies will, in times of fear, embrace treacherous promises. How would the prejudices of a Joe McCarthy, J. Edgar Hoover, or of southern Klansmen — all of whom were deeply integrated into the American political establishment — have manifest themselves in such a world? What might Hitler, Mao or Milosevic have accomplished if their citizens were chipped, coded, and remotely monitored?

Choirs of testimonials will soon start to sing the virtues of implants. Calm reassurances will be forthcoming about democratic traditions, the rule of law, and privacy rights. History, unfortunately, shows that things can go disastrously wrong, and that this happens with disconcerting regularity. Little in the way of international agreements, legality, or democratic sensibilities has proved capable of thwarting single-minded ruthlessness.

"It can't happen here" has become the whispered swan song of the disappeared. Best to contemplate these dystopian potentials before we proffer the tender forearms of our sons and daughters. While we cannot anticipate all of the positive advantages that might be derived from this technology, the negative prospects are almost too terrifying to contemplate.

[ginkobulloba]

Interesting, but why am I hungry for potato chips all of a sudden?

[Lexed]

can you post that in a paragraph to much to read

[Superhuman]

can you post that in a paragraph to much to read

Basically, the government is secretly going to force everyone to have microchips overtime - which will give the government even more power in controlling us. The mirochips will allow the government to track where we are, see what we purchase, and possibly hear what we say. We will have no freedom whatsoever.

The government was intended to be a Servant to the people, printing money and handling infastracture - as well as defending against enemies... however present-day it seems as if the Government has power over the people. Pretty soon it will be like Nazi Germany, everywhere you go officials will ask you for your "papers", which will likely now be the microchip to scan. If you are not where you are supposed to be you will be arrested. The government has congressional approval now to hold anyone without charges for eternity and not give a reason why... so if someone sees you as a threat because you disagree with the President's policies - they would easily be able to track you down with the microchip or national ID card required my May 2008 (which have tracking devices in them) and arrest you without telling you or your family why. Shit is about to get ugly...


NOT TO MENTION THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO WEALTH ANYMORE... NO PHYSICAL BACKING FOR PRINTED MONEY... THE FEDERAL RESERVE OWNS ALL US GOLD. Check this out: the Federal Reserve is no more "Federal" than Federal Express, it is a private company. Right now, a handful of super-wealthy bankers and business men are running this country.

[ginkobulloba]

dude you are one of the guys who is joining the military, right? this is normally the attitude one assumes after they serve, not before. anyway, it's cool...I'm just sayin'

[singern]

Basically, the government is secretly going to force everyone to have microchips overtime - .

Unless you have some top secret government intel hiden in your closet I gotta call this one like I see it.and You forgot mention that the entire article is a "prediction" based on the extremely unlikely evolution of a developing technology. The single bit of factual truth in the entire article was the example of folks who were already "chipped", although they were volunteers in the experiment, allowing them to open doors and such.


I place this right next to theories like the faked moon landing and big foot.

Sorry.

[Kärnfysikern]

I have no doubt in my mind that inplanted chips will be big. But I se it as something positive. Credit card, gym card, electronic key for my home. Everything implanted in my hand. No mess, no wallet, no risk of dropping it or losing it. Im all for it! Its one of those things that will make life so much simpler.

[Lexed]

the way you put it. I like the idea too

[BigJames]

One more comment...perhaps someone with more experience in this matter can correct me, but my experience with RFID tracking systems is that the cost to implement this project across the US would be INSANE. I would guess in the trillions. To put a similar program in a medium sized shopping centre costs $250,000 and that is using larger "fobs".

I agree with the above posts, this is a prediction in worst case scenarios. I do forsee implants becoming available (perhaps credit cards, debit cards, ID implants) to make like easier and make travel more secure (assuming that the chips are well encrypted), but the ability to track them in real time all the time is just out of hand.

Technically, our purchases (on credit and debit) are already tracked in almost real-time (although not reported to government without a warrant).

[Kärnfysikern]

One more comment...perhaps someone with more experience in this matter can correct me, but my experience with RFID tracking systems is that the cost to implement this project across the US would be INSANE. I would guess in the trillions. To put a similar program in a medium sized shopping centre costs $250,000 and that is using larger "fobs".

I agree with the above posts, this is a prediction in worst case scenarios. I do forsee implants becoming available (perhaps credit cards, debit cards, ID implants) to make like easier and make travel more secure (assuming that the chips are well encrypted), but the ability to track them in real time all the time is just out of hand.

Technically, our purchases (on credit and debit) are already tracked in almost real-time (although not reported to government without a warrant).

I wonder how they would go about even tracking them. Each chip would not to have a small gps or something and the ability to send information over long distances. All that crammed into a small implanted chip. Even if its done it would be easy to screen the signal from such a weak transmitter.

btw is it possible to track the locations of individual cell phones?

[shrpskn]

This is a good one for the doomsday junky... ...The chip is going to be "the mark" everyone will need to have if they ever want to buy, sell,

or trade anything...take the chip or take the bullet SUCKAs!!!

[alphaman]

This is a good one for the doomsday junky... ...The chip is going to be "the mark" everyone will need to have if they ever want to buy, sell,

or trade anything...take the chip or take the bullet SUCKAs!!!

Beat me to the punch!

Johan-

That's exactly how they will track people. You will need it to engage in any type of trade. Food, gas, medical attention, gov. benefits, etc...



I'm not saying I'm sold on the idea that this will be the mark of the beast, but many do. I belive that it may be a precursor -- the technology, that is....

[alphaman]

Google:

End Times Ministries. This is one of their big topics.

[alphaman]

Unless you have some top secret government intel hiden in your closet I gotta call this one like I see it.and You forgot mention that the entire article is a "prediction" based on the extremely unlikely evolution of a developing technology. The single bit of factual truth in the entire article was the example of folks who were already "chipped", although they were volunteers in the experiment, allowing them to open doors and such.


I place this right next to theories like the faked moon landing and big foot.

Sorry.

While that may be true, a lot of people say The Real ID Act is the first step of this happening.

[Kärnfysikern]

Beat me to the punch!

Johan-

That's exactly how they will track people. You will need it to engage in any type of trade. Food, gas, medical attention, gov. benefits, etc...



I'm not saying I'm sold on the idea that this will be the mark of the beast, but many do. I belive that it may be a precursor -- the technology, that is....

Well as BigJames said they can already do that with our credit cards. I pay everything with my visa. I hardly ever carry cash.
Having a chip implanted in my hand that can work as visa, gymcard ect ect seems like a damn good idea. I did some digging and our cell phones can be tracked already. I carry my cell phone everywhere.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,11...1/article.html

So if I have one of those implanted chips they, whoever they might be, wont know anymore about me then they already do if they want to. Laws just has to be updated to new tech.

[alphaman]

Basically, the government is secretly going to force everyone to have microchips overtime - which will give the government even more power in controlling us. The mirochips will allow the government to track where we are, see what we purchase, and possibly hear what we say. We will have no freedom whatsoever.

The government was intended to be a Servant to the people, printing money and handling infastracture - as well as defending against enemies... however present-day it seems as if the Government has power over the people. Pretty soon it will be like Nazi Germany, everywhere you go officials will ask you for your "papers", which will likely now be the microchip to scan. If you are not where you are supposed to be you will be arrested. The government has congressional approval now to hold anyone without charges for eternity and not give a reason why... so if someone sees you as a threat because you disagree with the President's policies - they would easily be able to track you down with the microchip or national ID card required my May 2008 (which have tracking devices in them) and arrest you without telling you or your family why. Shit is about to get ugly...


NOT TO MENTION THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO WEALTH ANYMORE... NO PHYSICAL BACKING FOR PRINTED MONEY... THE FEDERAL RESERVE OWNS ALL US GOLD. Check this out: the Federal Reserve is no more "Federal" than Federal Express, it is a private company. Right now, a handful of super-wealthy bankers and business men are running this country.

Whoa, buddy. I didn't read this post until just now. You're taking it a little too far. The purpose of the Fed is to implement monetary policy in the US by setting the "overnight rate" that banks use to lend each other money. This effectively controls the economy by keeping inflation under control, while allowing they economy to experience moderate growth. They have done a very good job. The Fed chairman is appointed by the President of the United States.

This post smells like a you've been listening to some crazy talk radio. Look carefully before you start believing all this crap.

[alphaman]

Well as BigJames said they can already do that with our credit cards. I pay everything with my visa. I hardly ever carry cash.
Having a chip implanted in my hand that can work as visa, gymcard ect ect seems like a damn good idea. I did some digging and our cell phones can be tracked already. I carry my cell phone everywhere.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,11...1/article.html

So if I have one of those implanted chips they, whoever they might be, wont know anymore about me then they already do if they want to. Laws just has to be updated to new tech.

I wasn't saying the idea is all bad. I agree with those points. Even if it is the "mark", there's nothing anyone can do about it anyhow. It's already been pre-determined.

[shrpskn]

So if I have one of those implanted chips they, whoever they might be, wont know anymore about me then they already do if they want to. Laws just has to be updated to new tech.

Keyword: they

"They" is one of my favs...

Any of yas ever wonder just who "they" is?

[alphaman]

Well as BigJames said they can already do that with our credit cards. I pay everything with my visa. I hardly ever carry cash.
Having a chip implanted in my hand that can work as visa, gymcard ect ect seems like a damn good idea. I did some digging and our cell phones can be tracked already. I carry my cell phone everywhere.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,11...1/article.html

So if I have one of those implanted chips they, whoever they might be, wont know anymore about me then they already do if they want to. Laws just has to be updated to new tech.

I didn't understand this post the first time I skimmed it -- sorry. Well, yes and no. First off, I think you would understand my point a little better if you studied endtime prophecy a little.

But -- This would be a way for THEM to control everything. The fact that you're cell phone can be tracked now is beside the point. It's not all about being tracked. It's more about being controlled.

[singern]

While that may be true, a lot of people say The Real ID Act is the first step of this happening.

I dont see any difference between showing my drivers license at the airport security line or an ID card.

[alphaman]

I dont see any difference between showing my drivers license at the airport security line or an ID card.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_id_act

[singern]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_id_act

Maybe its just me but I still dont see the big deal, whats the difference if my ID reads STATE OF ILLINOIS Drivers license, or UNITED STATED ID CARD.

A rose is by any other name..............

[RamyGras]

Keyword: they

"They" is one of my favs...

Any of yas ever wonder just who "they" is?

Yes, I do. After viewing a series of a documentary called "Prison Break", which airs on the Fox network prior to 24, "they" are known as "the company", a group of rich white guys who are pure evil. Currently, there are two rogue Americans, wrongly accused of murder (and brothers), attempting to bring them down.

[ginkobulloba]

Yes, I do. After viewing a series of a documentary called "Prison Break", which airs on the Fox network prior to 24, "they" are known as "the company", a group of rich white guys who are pure evil. Currently, there are two rogue Americans, wrongly accused of murder (and brothers), attempting to bring them down.

[Superhuman]

Whoa, buddy. I didn't read this post until just now. You're taking it a little too far. The purpose of the Fed is to implement monetary policy in the US by setting the "overnight rate" that banks use to lend each other money. This effectively controls the economy by keeping inflation under control, while allowing they economy to experience moderate growth. They have done a very good job. The Fed chairman is appointed by the President of the United States.

This post smells like a you've been listening to some crazy talk radio. Look carefully before you start believing all this crap.

ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT ALL THESE ****ING PEOPLE ARE WRONG, TOO?????

You have to get permission from the government for almost *everything*. And if that is the definition of a Police State -- that you can't do anything unless the government gives you permission -- we're well on our way.
-Ron Paul (Congressman)

Why did we give a monopoly, of creating money out of thin air, to a private corporation?
-Franklin Sanders (Author/Tax Honesty)

Benito Mussolini had a great quote about Fascism: he said that 'Fascism' should be called 'Corporatism' more properly, because it's the perfect merger, of power between the corporation and the State. That's how he defined Fascism! And that's what we're seeing here.
-Michael Ruppert (Investigator/Author)

The government works for a private bank, and the private bank works for its owners, the true masters.
-Catherine Austin Fitts (Former Asst. Secretary of Housing)

“Indeed, in a free government almost all other rights would become worthless if the government possessed power over the private fortune of every citizen“.
-John Marshall

“It’s important that whomever I pick is viewed as an in***endent person from politics.”
—President Bush, referring to his decision on the new “Federal” Reserve Chairman


“The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers.”
—Abraham Lincoln

“I sincerely believe the banking institutions having the issuing power of money are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies“.
—Thomas Jefferson

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will ***rive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
—Thomas Jefferson

“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world - no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
—U.S. President Woodrow Wilson, a few years after authorizing the creation of the “Federal” Reserve

[singern]

ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT ALL THESE ****ING PEOPLE ARE WRONG, TOO?????
[/B]

Yes, and I would explain if I thought it would make a difference.

[juicedOUTbrain]

Everyone here who is advocating the chip for conveniece is outta thier minds...Do you all really feel that comfortable with a group of people having this much control over your lives...

Governments have long abused any power they have been given and this is way too much, IMO...

They want to eliminate paper money to increase profits and charge more interest. And how long before they start using these chips to track political opponents???

You'd all be perfect citizens in Orwells "1984", so willing to give up your most essential rights because people tell you it'd make your life a little easier...

If it was an optional braclet Id be all for it, but a mandatory implanted chip???You people advocating it are the exact reason it will eventually happen...And when the government starts abusing it, it will be way too late...scary stuff

[Logan13]

Everyone here who is advocating the chip for conveniece is outta thier minds...Do you all really feel that comfortable with a group of people having this much control over your lives...

Governments have long abused any power they have been given and this is way too much, IMO...

They want to eliminate paper money to increase profits and charge more interest. And how long before they start using these chips to track political opponents???

You'd all be perfect citizens in Orwells "1984", so willing to give up your most essential rights because people tell you it'd make your life a little easier...

If it was an optional braclet Id be all for it, but a mandatory implanted chip???You people advocating it are the exact reason it will eventually happen...And when the government starts abusing it, it will be way too late...scary stuff

"Governments have long abused any power they have been given and this is way too much, IMO..." Agreed.

No one in here will live to see the day that the gov't actually mandates that its citizens be implanted with these chips. Perhaps they will impose this on convicted felons, much like the mandatory DNA sample that must be submitted by any convicted felon to the US Gov't. It will not happen guys, unless the socialists take over the country. A Gov't that wants to "give" everyone what they need to live (food, healthcare, etc.) does it not for the good of the people but rather for the control over the people, much like taxation.

[ginkobulloba]

I could actually see them doing this to military service members as well. I remember when I was going through in-processing for the Army and a fellow unfortunate soul asked what they were being injected with. It was a valid question, I mean some stranger in a uniform is sticking needles in you and it makes sense to at least have some idea what the shit is. He got some answer like "what the fvck do you think private? It's none of your goddamn business, that's what. Nothing you don't need, dick!"

Or something along those lines...

Superhuman, you sure you wanna be gov't property for the next 8 years?

[Superhuman]

Superhuman, you sure you wanna be gov't property for the next 8 years?

yeah, I think that it will help me to acheive my other goals in life to have military service on my resume. I am also looking forward to all the great training I will get and the excitement of being in Special Ops. I WILL be president and this experience certainly will not hurt in my campaigning in 20 years. I will one day be in a position to change these policies and set in motion a revolution to a new era of party-less politics where each person's quality of life is the sole priority of government - not turning a profit.

[alphaman]

yeah, I think that it will help me to acheive my other goals in life to have military service on my resume. I am also looking forward to all the great training I will get and the excitement of being in Special Ops. I WILL be president and this experience certainly will not hurt in my campaigning in 20 years. I will one day be in a position to change these policies and set in motion a revolution to a new era of party-less politics where each person's quality of life is the sole priority of government - not turning a profit.

I'm starting to worry about your mental state. Seriously.

[Superhuman]

I'm starting to worry about your mental state. Seriously.

why don't you tell me why, without a smart-ass comment buddy

[mcpeepants]

scary stuff and you definitely know govt will abuse it

[mcpeepants]

Everyone here who is advocating the chip for conveniece is outta thier minds...Do you all really feel that comfortable with a group of people having this much control over your lives...

Governments have long abused any power they have been given and this is way too much, IMO...

They want to eliminate paper money to increase profits and charge more interest. And how long before they start using these chips to track political opponents???

You'd all be perfect citizens in Orwells "1984", so willing to give up your most essential rights because people tell you it'd make your life a little easier...

If it was an optional braclet Id be all for it, but a mandatory implanted chip???You people advocating it are the exact reason it will eventually happen...And when the government starts abusing it, it will be way too late...scary stuff

couldn't agree more

[Superhuman]

http://www.freedomtofascism.com/

CHECK THIS WEBSITE OUT AND VIEW SOME OF THE VIDEOS

[Kärnfysikern]

Everyone here who is advocating the chip for conveniece is outta thier minds...Do you all really feel that comfortable with a group of people having this much control over your lives...

Governments have long abused any power they have been given and this is way too much, IMO...

They want to eliminate paper money to increase profits and charge more interest. And how long before they start using these chips to track political opponents???

You'd all be perfect citizens in Orwells "1984", so willing to give up your most essential rights because people tell you it'd make your life a little easier...

If it was an optional braclet Id be all for it, but a mandatory implanted chip???You people advocating it are the exact reason it will eventually happen...And when the government starts abusing it, it will be way too late...scary stuff

I dont se how it could become mandatory and I also dont se how it would give someone controll over my life? There is no reason for the chip to be trackable besides when making a purchase with it and in that case a visa card is just as easy to track.

Im looking forward to the day we can implant a lot more than just a chip. Memory enhancements, intelligence enhancements, brain-computer interfaces ect. Soon technology will be advanced enough to be able to interpret our brain signals. At that point various different implats is the next logical step in our technological evolution.

Imagine maby 30-50 years from now where your computer is implanted in your head and you can surf the net, write mails and do all those things in your head from a menu in your field of vision created by direct stimulation of the brain's visual center.
Or atleast controling all gadgets in your home by thought commands. This isnt as far of as it sounds.
http://www.livescience.com/technolog...oid_robot.html

Hell in that way you could even have technological telepaty. The possibilities are more or less endless. I would be the first to sign up for that.

Offcourse all new technology has risks associated with them. But as society change we will learn how to deal with those risks.

[singern]

Imagine maby 30-50 years from now where your computer is implanted in your head and you can surf the net, write mails and do all those things in your head from a menu in your field of vision created by direct stimulation of the brain's visual center.

Now that sounds truly cool,


How about Identifying bodies, built in Passport, preventing Identity theft, Emergency Medical information, financial services, and many other productive forms of use.


I dont give a bit of credence to paranoia of "the evil government control" theory,
Many of our younger members will not remember a time when drivers license had no picture, There was a big conspiracy theory at the time, people warned of government control, and loss of freedom if we are "forced" to have a picture. This is the same shit just a different flavor.....

[RamyGras]

I'm starting to worry about your mental state. Seriously.

Alphaman, elaborate on your thoughts here.....I may get a huge kick out of it.