Military declassifies 'al-Qaeda torture manual' recovered in Iraq

[Logan13]

Only a sub-species would create and follow a book like this. "But they're people too Logan13, it's not right for you to label them as a sub-species":rolleyes: Anyone have the audacity to compare this to waterboarding? Let's hear your defense of this one. "Why must you speak so negatively about these people, Logan13?" "You are just being racist." Please bring something original this time. I tire of the lame-ass "Rosie" rebutals, which for many of you consists only of name calling, labeling, or the embellishment of fact(as the term "Rosie" indicates) ........

Military declassifies 'al-Qaeda torture manual' recovered in Iraq
USA Today
05/25/07
Torture tool pictures:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...2torture7.html

The Pentagon has released what it describes as an al-Qaeda torture manual. The collection of graphic drawings, which are said to show ways the terrorist group extracts information from prisoners, was reportedly recovered during a raid on a terrorist hideout in Iraq.

"Some of the drawings show how to drill hands, sever limbs, drag victims behind cars, remove eyes, put a blowtorch or iron to someone’s skin, suspend a person from a ceiling and electrocute them, break limbs and restrict breath and put someone’s head in a vice," according to Fox News Channel.

A military spokesman tells CNN that "they made it in a cartoon manner, so that no matter what your literacy rate, what nationality you are, all you've got to do is look at these pictures to understand how to conduct tortures of innocent people."

A search of the safe house turned up "electric drills, hammers, blow torches, meat cleavers, pliers and wire cutters, chains, screw drivers, whips and handcuffs," Fox News reports.

According to a military statement that was released Monday: After a thorough search of the building, ground forces found a padlocked room. Inside were four men and a boy who had been kidnapped and severely beaten with chains, cables and hoses. The four captives also showed signs of torture, and the boy stated the terrorists had hooked electrical wires to his tongue and shocked him.

You can see the sketches at The Smoking Gun. Warning: These images are very graphic.

Some bloggers are complaining that this story's not getting enough coverage in the nation's newspapers and other media.

NewsBusters, a blog devoted to "exposing and combating liberal media bias," asks: "given the medias fascination with what American soldiers were doing at Abu Ghraib, is it safe to assume that the same level of attention will be given to what our enemy is doing? Or, would that be too much like journalism?"

[mcpeepants]

water boarding is a the technique that the CIA and military intelligence acknowledge using. i bet that they use more severe torture techniques that they won't tell us about and perform them in undisclosed locations. they could also just send detainees to countries like Egypt and Syria where they can get a good dose of torture.

[Logan13]

water boarding is a the technique that the CIA and military intelligence acknowledge using. i bet that they use more severe torture techniques that they won't tell us about and perform them in undisclosed locations. they could also just send detainees to countries like Egypt and Syria where they can get a good dose of torture.

Please show proof of what you allege. I am sorry but your wild guesses just do not do it for me. Nothing about the manual, only speaking about your "what-ifs" again........... Are you sure that you have never thought about climbing aboard a school bus with a bomb duct taped to your chest?

[BgMc31]

Unfortunately like Senator McCain, and my father (who was also a POW in Vietnam) says, torture doesn't usually get the intelligence you are looking for (hopefully the truth). Usually the more you torture someone, the more you make them want to tell you what you want to hear.

[BgMc31]

Please show proof of what you allege. I am sorry but your wild guesses just do not do it for me. Nothing about the manual, only speaking about your "what-ifs" again........... Are you sure that you have never thought about climbing aboard a school bus with a bomb duct taped to your chest?

Logan what the **** is wrong with you tonite? Everyone that doesn't agree with you is now a terrorists or a terrorists sympathizer? Grow up!

[mcpeepants]

Please show proof of what you allege. I am sorry but your wild guesses just do not do it for me. Nothing about the manual, only speaking about your "what-ifs" again........... Are you sure that you have never thought about climbing aboard a school bus with a bomb duct taped to your chest?

logan your arguments have gotten really weak and desperate lately.

there was a story about a Canadian citizen who the US and Canada sent to Syria (aren't they are enemies ) where he was promptly tortured for a year. the Canadian government eventually cleared his name and made a public apology. the US hasn't said a word. someone posted in the board a couple weeks ago. just search for it. if i find it, i'll post it.

[Logan13]

Logan what the **** is wrong with you tonite? Everyone that doesn't agree with you is now a terrorists or a terrorists sympathizer? Grow up!

Seriously, I am tired of the whiners who throw labels and insults around but become outrage when it is used against them, it has become fukkin laughable. The funny thing is, by my initial post in this thread, I have taken most of the replies away from the usual suspects. I am the previously silent majority Bg! Notice that is makes no reference to the person being a member of a majority or a minority here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry
Bigot:a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own.
http://www.answers.com/topic/reverse-discrimination
Reverse discrimination: Discrimination against members of a dominant or majority group, especially when resulting from policies established to correct discrimination against members of a minority or disadvantaged group.

[Logan13]

logan your arguments have gotten really weak and desperate lately.

Sure they have. It is just that your retorts never change, always the same shit.

[Logan13]

there was a story about a Canadian citizen who the US and Canada sent to Syria (aren't they are enemies ) where he was promptly tortured for a year. the Canadian government eventually cleared his name and made a public apology. the US hasn't said a word. someone posted in the board a couple weeks ago. just search for it. if i find it, i'll post it.

I am sure that I too can find an article about some obscure topic to prove it postive. The thread is about the Al quaeda torture manual, and yet you say nothing about it but are ready to change the topic to the US. Blind ideals.....

[mcpeepants]

Here's some links about the Syria thing:

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Jan...orture,00.html

http://www.boston.com/news/world/art...et_on_torture/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2003/10...ar_back03.html

http://www.canada.com/cityguides/win...c6ae39&k=55775

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61699.htm

[Logan13]

Here's some links about the Syria thing:

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Jan...orture,00.html

Sorry man, If Fox News says it, I just can't bring myself to believe it...........

[mcpeepants]

Sure they have. It is just that your retorts never change, always the same shit.

nothing has changed. i keep wrecking your argument and who respond by name calling or ducking (are you sure your not a democrat ).

[Logan13]

nothing has changed. i keep wrecking your argument and who respond by name calling or ducking (are you sure your not a democrat ).

When have you ever "wrecked my argument"? You don't have to lie mcpeepants, I will still like you without the factual misrepresentations!

[Logan13]

nothing has changed. i keep wrecking your argument and who respond by name calling or ducking (are you sure your not a democrat ).

When are your John Deere friends gonna look me up? Give me a week and you wil have a couple of new Conservative friendships!

[mcpeepants]

I am sure that I too can find an article about some obscure topic to prove it postive. The thread is about the Al quaeda torture manual, and yet you say nothing about it but are ready to change the topic to the US. Blind ideals.....

i saw the al qaieda torture manual on tv yesterday. it's pretty self explanatory. it's a way for al qaieda to teach torture techniques to people who can't read or speak different languages. i don't like or approve of torture. do you like any of the torture techniques in the manual?

not changing the subject, i was responding to your comments before the article. so now will we read and respond to those links or will you continue name calling or ducking?

[mcpeepants]

When are your John Deere friends gonna look me up? Give me a week and you wil have a couple of new Conservative friendships!

they're already conservative? there from Colorado and this state is pretty conservative.

[Logan13]

they're already conservative? there from Colorado and this state is pretty conservative.

Boulder seems to be taking on a "Mork and Mindy" mentality these days........

[mcpeepants]

Boulder seems to be taking on a "Mork and Mindy" mentality these days........

there are liberal dots in the state but even in those places there are a lot of conservatives. many of my classmates consider themselves conservative or moderate. even the democrats here are often pretty conservative.

[***xxx***]

Sorry man, If Fox News says it, I just can't bring myself to believe it...........

well when fox was promoting the war and the terror alerts a lot of ur country men believed it...of course if they say something that doesnt help ur cause it has lost its creditbility

[Logan13]

well when fox was promoting the war and the terror alerts a lot of ur country men believed it...of course if they say something that doesnt help ur cause it has lost its creditbility

Did you see the "roll-eyes"? I am just throwing back what is always thrown out by others. Funny how those who have disdain for Fox sooner or later end up sighting articles from them to support their views.