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07-10-2007, 08:39 PM #1
Moore on Blitzer, CNN.
Scroll down to see the embedded clip of Moore on Blitzers show. Poor Wolf
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Michae...r_on_0709.html
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07-10-2007, 09:09 PM #2Originally Posted by Prada
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07-10-2007, 09:31 PM #3Originally Posted by Logan13
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07-10-2007, 09:41 PM #4Originally Posted by Hoggage_54
Competition makes us better.
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07-11-2007, 02:13 PM #5Originally Posted by Logan13
http://www.nchc.org/facts/coverage.shtml
http://cthealth.server101.com/the_ca...ted_states.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0223-01.htm
Here's some more interesting facts. The province of Ontario now produces more automobiles than Michigan. Why? Because GM, Ford and Toyota are moving their factories there because they save money on health costs, along with government incentives. By them moving to Ontario, they are creating more jobs for Canadians and boosting our economy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors
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07-11-2007, 04:16 PM #6Originally Posted by Hoggage_54
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07-11-2007, 04:22 PM #7Originally Posted by Hoggage_54
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07-10-2007, 09:43 PM #8Originally Posted by Logan13
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07-10-2007, 09:50 PM #9Originally Posted by Coop77
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07-10-2007, 10:24 PM #10Originally Posted by Logan13
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07-10-2007, 10:33 PM #11Originally Posted by Coop77
Public money does not define socialism. If everyone had their higher education paid for via draconian taxes, then it would be socialized.
Want an example of where your tax dollars go at the Universities?
Michigan University Plans to Install Foot-washing Basins for Muslims
The University of Michigan-Dearborn announced today that it plans to install a foot-washing basin to accommodate its burgeoning Muslim student population. The plan would cost the university $25,000--a number that angered some area residents who accuse the university of using public funds for religious accommodations.
The move comes just months after Minneapolis Community and Technical College, or MCTC, unveiled a similar plan, after one of its students was injured while ritually washing her feet in a bathroom sink.
Muslim students wash their hands, face and feet before saying their daily five prayers. Some 15 colleges and universities around the country have implemented similar facilities to accommodate them, but doing so is often a perfect recipe for controversy.
MCTC President received more than 3,000 furious e-mails and calls when the college's plan was first made public.
The Michigan university plans to build floor-level basins at two of its bathrooms in August.
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07-10-2007, 09:48 PM #12Originally Posted by Logan13
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07-10-2007, 09:52 PM #13Originally Posted by Coop77
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07-10-2007, 10:32 PM #14Originally Posted by Logan13
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07-10-2007, 11:19 PM #15Originally Posted by Coop77
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07-10-2007, 11:26 PM #16Originally Posted by Logan13
I might add that churches get these services for free, which IMHO, they shouldn't. They don't pay taxes, they don't pay fees for these services. Seems reasonable to me that if they don't pay, and they expect these things for free, that makes them nothing but leeches on the public treasury.
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07-11-2007, 08:47 PM #17Originally Posted by Logan13
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07-10-2007, 11:13 PM #18
We have plenty of members on this board from the UK and other countries. I'm curious to see what their opinion on socialized medicine in their country is. I think I'll start a thread in the lounge..
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07-12-2007, 01:51 AM #19
It is funny because I’ve seen some valid points in this thread made by Tock and Coop but were completely ignored or minimized, but I think are the crux of this thread. There are many services that are socialized here in the U.S. and guess what it is not a bad thing. I am willing to pay a little extra in order for my fellow human being to have medical coverage when needed (and in a sense in the U.S. we already do) and I do not have a problem with if people want to attain higher education. You know every social scientist will agree that an educated and healthy society is better for all of society at large. Pure capitalist ideals are outdated models for running society. And if you look at societies that are based on pure capitalism principle they are not societies you would usually want to live in (India, Hong Kong, ect.). A pure capitalist society usually ends up with wealth accumulated in one small section while every thing tends to become impoverished. It is always better to have a more even distribution of wealth in a society. I think a good example of this can be seen by the Wallmart effect. Wallmart is one of the top money making businesses in the U.S. however most of their employees are the below the U.S. poverty line. IMHO there is something wrong with that system. Where is the social consciousness in this picture?
Don't get me wrong... competition is good, but on a limited basis. And socialized societies (not communistic many people get the two confused) are not all that bad (Canada, France, Britain, Germany, ect.). I will be surprised if anyone reads this long post, but anyways take care.
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07-12-2007, 08:46 AM #20Originally Posted by Fat Guy
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07-13-2007, 12:02 AM #21Originally Posted by Logan13
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07-13-2007, 07:45 AM #22Originally Posted by Fat Guy
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