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    Fatal end to Exorcism Attempt

    I'll bet they could have sold a lot of tickets to this show:


    http://www.azcentral.com/community/p...rcism0730.html


    Fatal end to exorcism attempt
    Man dies after struggle with police checking on girl's welfare
    Elias C. Arnold
    The Arizona Republic
    Jul. 29, 2007 10:35 PM

    A 48-year-old Phoenix man whom authorities say was choking his 3-year-old granddaughter during an exorcism early Saturday died after struggling with police officers who went into the home to investigate, Phoenix police said.

    Police reportedly found Ronald Marquez, of Phoenix, shirtless and choking his granddaughter as her 19-year-old mother, naked and bloody, looked on. The bloodied girl was gasping and screaming as her mother chanted and held a religious picture of some kind, police said.

    "It's very bizarre, (a) very unusual and pretty horrific situation this young child was involved in," said Sgt. Joel Tranter, a Phoenix police spokesman.

    Police responded about 7:30 a.m. to a check-welfare call at a house in the 2200 block of North 28th Street, north of McDowell Road.

    A relative reported she thought an exorcism was going on at the family home after one was performed two days earlier, police said.

    Police said officers heard yelling from outside the house, gained entry through a back door and rushed to a bedroom.

    Two officers forced the door open slightly to find Marquez sitting on a bed blocking the door, police said.

    The man held the girl in a headlock with one arm as he was squeezing her torso with his other arm, causing her to gasp and scream, police said.

    Investigators later learned the man was trying to "squeeze the demons out of the young girl," Tranter said.

    One officer made his way into the room, confronted Marquez and touched him with a Taser, which apparently had no effect.

    A second officer followed. The officers managed to free the girl, and handed her out the door to a family member.

    An officer touched Marquez with the Taser a second time and eventually handcuffed him, police said.

    Marquez soon developed shortness of breath and officers performed CPR until medical crews arrived.

    Marquez was pronounced dead at the hospital

    Police are investigating the incident.

    Autopsy results are not expected for several weeks, Tranter said.

    Tranter declined to identify the girl's mother because she was not arrested.

    The girl also was not identified. She is expected to recover.

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    I heard about that at lunch today, that's pretty crazy

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    i love religion

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    kinda like the movie Emily Rose Exorcism

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    Quote Originally Posted by godkilla
    i love religion
    Using that to stereotype religion is like using Jeffery Dahmer to stereotype gays. You will always find an extreme in any group but you should never use that extreme to classify the entire group simply to justify your own bigoted stance.

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    i wish they had a camcorder set up for that shit and it ends up on the net some how. doubt it but it would be pretty cool..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06
    Using that to stereotype religion is like using Jeffery Dahmer to stereotype gays. You will always find an extreme in any group but you should never use that extreme to classify the entire group simply to justify your own bigoted stance.
    Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06
    Using that to stereotype religion is like using Jeffery Dahmer to stereotype gays. You will always find an extreme in any group but you should never use that extreme to classify the entire group simply to justify your own bigoted stance.

    Ok . . . how about this?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkf7D...elated&search=
    I know there are lots of folks like this, 'cause I've played piano and organ for lots of 'em.

    Then there's exorcisms like,
    the Russian Orthodox folks:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edBpH...elated&search=
    and Muslims folks do it, too:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTEsh...elated&search=
    and Voodoo folks do it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVX2tpc5YRc


    Anyway, my point is that this planet is chuck full of crazy people doing crazy things because of what Islam, Xianity, Voodoo, or whatever tells 'em. I'd say that us guys who are prosperous enough to own computers and access to electricity and the phone system might not be like the examples I've shown. However, I daresay that the majority of the poverty-stricken, uneducated people on this planet are, indeed, very much like these examples.

    So, it's not so much stereotyping, as much as it is an honest and accurate representation of how people express their lives.


    Fundamentalists? It's not just the Christian ones that are a problem:
    Hindus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2nK**HhN9M
    muslims: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVqwckpcho8
    Christians: well, we all know about them . . .
    Last edited by Tock; 07-31-2007 at 08:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06
    Using that to stereotype religion is like using Jeffery Dahmer to stereotype gays. You will always find an extreme in any group but you should never use that extreme to classify the entire group simply to justify your own bigoted stance.
    dont even get me started about religion exorcisms!? cmon gimme a ****ing break, its the 21st century now

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    Quote Originally Posted by godkilla
    dont even get me started about religion exorcisms!? cmon gimme a ****ing break, its the 21st century now
    Well eeexxxccuuussseee me! I have an exorcism performed on me at least once a week... It helps me balance out my chi

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    theme parties are awesome...and talk about commitment!
    oh wait, these people thought they were really performing an exorcist by choking out a child..goddamn there are some ****ed up people in this world.

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    These people prey on the weak minded.

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    Gotta love superstition, I mean religion.

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