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    Exclamation Vladamir Putin dissolves the Russian Government!

    Russian news agencies cite the Kremlin as saying that President Vladimir Putin dissolved the government Wednesday.

    Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Fradkov asked the Kremlin to dissolve his government, Russian news agencies reported, with less than three months remaining before parliamentary elections.

    Fradkov made the decision based on "the approaching major political events in the country and a desire to give the president full freedom in making decisions, including personnel," Fradkov was quoted by ITAR-Tass as saying. A Kremlin spokesman could not immediately comment on the report.

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    I just saw that, that is very scary though it should not come as a surprise.

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    lol , something Bush would do!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTBusta
    lol , something Bush would do!?
    You are obviously oblivious to what this means. Quit saying stupid shit. This is serious, although not as serious as Abu Graab.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTBusta
    lol , something Bush would do!?
    Thats is being circulated in some of the theories concerning bush's plans for marshal law. Its said it will be done in select cities so it sorta not funny.
    Putins disolves his own government just makes it all the more reason to get out of iraq now or go over and finish kicking the living shit outa them until they understand whos the boss.
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    too much politics for me this am

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    Quote Originally Posted by 39+1
    Thats is being circulated in some of the theories concerning bush's plans for marshal law. Its said it will be done in select cities so it sorta not funny.
    Putins disolves his own government just makes it all the more reason to get out of iraq now or go over and finish kicking the living shit outa them until they understand whos the boss.
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    Putins a scary dude...not good.

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    Bush is just as scary, and yes Logan I know what this means...however Bush can really get dug in if he wants...Lets see, 2006 military commisions act, patriot act, 2007 july 16th executive order, and suspension of Habeas Corpus, ye ye ye Bush can do worse !

    Proof Iraq was planned from day 1 !
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inyCkCvqRO0

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTBusta
    Bush is just as scary, and yes Logan I know what this means...however Bush can really get dug in if he wants...Lets see, 2006 military commisions act, patriot act, 2007 july 16th executive order, and suspension of Habeas Corpus, ye ye ye Bush can do worse !
    Can you please tell me when Bush suspended Habeas Corpus? He never did nor can he. The only one to ever do that was Lincoln but I am sure you hate Lincoln too for what he did.

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    No problem, here you go





    text here
    http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rights...beuscorpus.htm


    Video clip here !!! this one is for Habeas corpus also
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mqQ9WTo_Qk

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTBusta
    o.k. here you go, a quote from the law your referencing, the Act states, "No court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider an application for a writ of habeas corpus filed by or on behalf of an alien detained by the United States who has been determined by the United States to have been properly detained as an enemy combatant or is awaiting such determination."

    It's for non-citizens!!! You get it, the constitution of the United States is for U.S. citizens so no he did not violate the US constitution. You liberals are pathetic, you think if you say something enough it becomes fact. So the mean Bush makes it legal to arrest a foreigner that come to the USA to commit terrorist acts, the audacity of him.

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    not a liberal...but anyway, technically its who ever they consider an enemy combatant... but you are right as far as general public

    but the original argument by you was that he didn't suspend Habeas Corpus, when he actually has,and still isn't totally clear on how they could use it ! So we are both HALF WRONG !!!!


    Bush's Suspension of Habeas Corpus
    President Bush suspended writs of habeas corpus through his support and signing into law of the Military Commissions Act of 2006. The bill grants the President of the United States almost unlimited authority in establishing and conducting military commissions to try persons held by the U.S., and considered to be "unlawful enemy combatants" in the Global War on Terrorism. In addition, the Act suspends the right of "unlawful enemy combatants" to present, or to have presented in their behalf, writs of habeas corpus.
    Specifically, the Act states, "No court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider an application for a writ of habeas corpus filed by or on behalf of an alien detained by the United States who has been determined by the United States to have been properly detained as an enemy combatant or is awaiting such determination." Importantly, the Military Commissions Act does not affect the hundreds of writs for habeas corpus already filed in federal civilian courts on behalf of persons held by the U.S.as unlawful enemy combatants. The Act only suspends the accused person's right to present writs of habeas corpus until after their trial before the military commission has been completed. As explained in a White House Fact Sheet on the Act, "... our courts should not be misused to hear all manner of other challenges by terrorists lawfully held as enemy combatants in wartime."

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    Now this is a much better arguement! I enjoy an exchange as long as it's civil and backed up with legitimate sources but he does not have the power nor did Lincoln to suspend Habeas Corpus, Lincoln simply ignored the Supreme Court and had the Army backing him.

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    Right , now originally Bush did have us citizens written into the suspension of habeas corpus so long as they were considered an enemy combatant,determined by the attorney general, however that was contested in 2004..

    otherwise ditto !

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTBusta
    Right , now originally Bush did have us citizens written into the suspension of habeas corpus so long as they were considered an enemy combatant,determined by the attorney general, however that was contested in 2004..

    otherwise ditto !
    so what is the issue then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTBusta
    Right , now originally Bush did have us citizens written into the suspension of habeas corpus so long as they were considered an enemy combatant,determined by the attorney general, however that was contested in 2004..

    otherwise ditto !

    A lot of black helicopter nonsense. Bush is not going to try to take over permanantly so just relax and have a coke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    A lot of black helicopter nonsense. Bush is not going to try to take over permanantly so just relax and have a coke.
    I have to say though weather or not bush is seeking a dictatorship is a non issue. The issue becomes bush violating the most basic principals of the US and its constitution. Such as an undeclared war and such. Theres some insanity going on right now and people have to wake up and see the big picture or their freedom and liberty will be given up one bill at a time..

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    He went to congress, congress gave consent. No constitutional crises here bro.

    Quote Originally Posted by soulstealer
    I have to say though weather or not bush is seeking a dictatorship is a non issue. The issue becomes bush violating the most basic principals of the US and its constitution. Such as an undeclared war and such. Theres some insanity going on right now and people have to wake up and see the big picture or their freedom and liberty will be given up one bill at a time..

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    Congress never voted on the war but the members of Congress, including certain Democratic presidential candidates ...who voted for that October resolution cannot now claim that they were deceived, as some of them do. By unlawfully ceding the war-declaring power to the president, they allowed the president to start a war against Iraq based on whatever evidence or whatever lies he chose. The members of Congress who voted for that October resolution are as complicit in this illegal war as is the president himself.If you ask me the dems are just as bad...Liberal conservative my ass, they are all big government, pork barrel spending,war hawk peices of poop....Anarchism is where its at ! Lets rebuild this government !

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