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    1 in 10 schools are 'dropout factories'

    1 in 10 schools are 'dropout factories'

    By NANCY ZUCKERBROD, AP Education Writer 19 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON - It's a nickname no principal could be proud of: "Dropout Factory," a high school where no more than 60 percent of the students who start as freshmen make it to their senior year. That description fits more than one in 10 high schools across America.
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    "If you're born in a neighborhood or town where the only high school is one where graduation is not the norm, how is this living in the land of equal opportunity?" asks Bob Balfanz, the Johns Hopkins researcher who coined the term "dropout factory."

    There are about 1,700 regular or vocational high schools nationwide that fit that description, according to an analysis of Education Department data conducted by Johns Hopkins for The Associated Press. That's 12 percent of all such schools, about the same level as a decade ago.

    While some of the missing students transferred, most dropped out, says Balfanz. The data look at senior classes for three years in a row to make sure local events like plant closures aren't to blame for the low retention rates.

    The highest concentration of dropout factories is in large cities or high-poverty rural areas in the South and Southwest. Most have high proportions of minority students. These schools are tougher to turn around because their students face challenges well beyond the academic ones — the need to work as well as go to school, for example, or a need for social services.

    Utah, which has low poverty rates and fewer minorities than most states, is the only state without a dropout factory. Florida and South Carolina have the highest percentages.

    "Part of the problem we've had here is, we live in a state that culturally and traditionally has not valued a high school education," said Jim Foster, a spokesman for the South Carolina department of education. He noted that residents in that state previously could get good jobs in textile mills without a high school degree, but that those jobs are gone today.

    Washington hasn't focused much attention on the problem. The No Child Left Behind Act, for example, pays much more attention to educating younger students. But that appears to be changing.

    House and Senate proposals to renew the 5-year-old No Child law would give high schools more federal money and put more pressure on them to improve on graduation performance, and the Bush administration supports that idea.

    The current NCLB law imposes serious consequences on schools that report low scores on math and reading tests, and this fallout can include replacement of teachers or principals — or both. But the law doesn't have the same kind of enforcement teeth when it comes to graduation rates.

    Nationally, about 70 percent of U.S. students graduate on time with a regular diploma. For Hispanic and black students, the proportion drops to about half.

    The legislative proposals circulating in Congress would:

    _Make sure schools report their graduation rates by racial, ethnic, and other subgroups and are judged on those results. That's to ensure that schools aren't just graduating white students in high numbers, but also are working to ensure that minority students get diplomas.

    _Get states to build data systems to keep track of students throughout their school years and more accurately measure graduation and dropout rates.

    _Ensure that states count graduation rates in a uniform way. States have used a variety of formulas, including counting the percentage of entering seniors who get a diploma. That measurement ignores the obvious fact that kids who drop out typically do so before their senior year.

    _Create strong progress goals for graduation rates and impose sanctions on schools that miss those benchmarks. Most states currently lack meaningful goals, according to The Education Trust, a nonprofit group that advocates for poor and minority children.

    The current law requires testing in reading and math once in high school, and those tests take on added importance because of the serious consequences for a school of failure. Critics say that creates a perverse incentive for schools to encourage kids to drop out before they bring down a school's scores.

    "The vast majority of educators do not want to push out kids, but the pressures to raise test scores above all else are intense," said Bethany Little, vice president for policy at the Alliance for Excellent Education, an advocacy group focused on high schools. "To know if a high school is doing its job, we need to consider test scores and graduation rates equally."

    Little said some students pushed out of high schools are encouraged to enroll in programs that prepare them to take the GED exam. People who pass that test get certificates indicating they have high-school level academic skills. But the research shows that getting a GED doesn't lead to the kind of job or college success associated with a regular diploma.

    Loretta Singletary, 17, enrolled in a GED program after dropping out of a Washington, D.C. high school that she describes as huge, chaotic and violent. "Girls got jumped. Boys got jumped, teachers (were) fighting and hitting students," she said.

    She said teachers had low expectations for students, which led to dull classes. "They were teaching me stuff I already knew ... basic nouns, simple adjectives."

    Singletary said a subject she loved was science but she wasn't offered it, and complaints to administrators went unanswered. "I was interested in experiments," she said. "I didn't have science in 9th or 10th grade."

    A GED classmate of Singletary's is 23-year-old Dontike Miller, who attended and left two D.C. high schools on the dropout factory list. Miller was brought up by a single mother who used drugs, and he says teachers and counselors seemed oblivious to what was going on in his life.

    He would have liked for someone to sit him down and say, "'You really need to go to class. We're going to work with you. We're going to help you'," Miller said. Instead,"I had nobody."

    Teachers and administrators at Baltimore Talent Development High School, where 90 percent of kids are on track toward graduating on time, are working hard to make sure students don't have an experience like Miller's.

    The school, which sits in the middle of a high-crime, impoverished neighborhood two miles west of downtown Baltimore, was founded by Balfanz and others four years ago as a laboratory for getting kids out on time with a diploma and ready for college.

    Teachers, students and administrators at the school know each other well.

    "I know teachers that have knocked on people's doors. They want us to succeed," 12th-grader Jasmine Coleman said during a lunchtime chat in the cafeteria.

    Fellow senior Victoria Haynes says she likes the way the school organizes teachers in teams of four, with each team of teachers assigned to a group of 75 students. The teachers work across subject areas, meaning English and math teachers, for example, collaborate on lessons and discuss individual students' needs.

    "They all concentrate on what's best for us together," Haynes said. "It's very family oriented. We feel really close to them."

    Teachers, too, say it works.

    "I know the students a lot better, because I know the teachers who teach them," said 10th-grade English teacher Jenni Williams. "Everyone's on the same page, so it's not like you're alone in your mission."

    That mission can be daunting. The majority of students who enter Baltimore Talent Development in ninth grade are reading at a fifth- or sixth-grade level.

    To get caught up, students have 80-minute lessons in reading and math, instead of the typical 45 minutes. They also get additional time with specialists if needed.

    The fact that kids are entering high schools with such poor literacy skills raises questions about how much catch-up work high schools can be expected to do and whether more pressure should be placed on middle schools and even elementary schools, say some high-school principals.

    "We're at the end of the process," says Mel Riddile, principal of T.C. Williams High School, a large public school in Alexandria, Va. "People don't walk into 9th grade and suddenly have a reading problem."

    Other challenges to high schools come from outside the school system. In high-poverty districts, some students believe it's more important to work than to stay in school, or they are lured away by gang activity or other kinds of peer or family pressure.

    At Baltimore Talent Development, administrators try to set mini-milestones and celebrations for students so they stay motivated. These include more fashionable uniforms with each promotion to the next grade, pins for completing special programs and pizza parties to celebrate good attendance records.

    "The kids are just starved for recognition and attention. Little social rewards matter to them," said Balfanz.

    Balfanz says, however, that students understand the biggest reward they can collect is the piece of paper handed to them on graduation day.

    Without it, "there's not much work for you anymore," he said. "There's no way out of the cycle of poverty if you don't have a high school diploma."

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    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink... instead he'd rather get distracted by shiny rims and gold teef.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink... instead he'd rather get distracted by shiny rims and gold teef.
    More entitlements and special attention will not help a student who does not want nor have the drive to succeed. Those characteristic are instilled in children by their parents. Quit graduating students who should not graduate, this does them no favors. A moment of silence just might do something for these under-achievers............

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    There should more standardization between schools districts also. I moved my freshman year. I went from honors classes to almost failing. My new school district did things completely different. I knew the information but the new school required a lot more paperwork besides passing the test. Did know until it was to late and had to go to summer school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    There should more standardization between schools districts also. I moved my freshman year. I went from honors classes to almost failing. My new school district did things completely different. I knew the information but the new school required a lot more paperwork besides passing the test. Did know until it was to late and had to go to summer school.
    an easy school would do nothing for you in the future.

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    Neither would a school that pounds you with senseless BS. I think schools need to work on finding things that are more in tune with daily life rather than pounding into my head the damn derivative of a stupid slope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renesis
    Neither would a school that pounds you with senseless BS. I think schools need to work on finding things that are more in tune with daily life rather than pounding into my head the damn derivative of a stupid slope.
    i'll bet that I can guess your current occupation...........

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    College student ;(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    an easy school would do nothing for you in the future.
    Your right. But my new school wasn't harder. We had to retain paperwork and hand it in. I never took notes. Or saved old home work, quizzes and test. We were expected to and organize them. That was a huge portion of our grade. Who knew?

    I'm the type of person who can sit in class and learn and pass the test. Apparently that wasn't good enough in my new high school. It was at Rutgers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renesis
    Neither would a school that pounds you with senseless BS. I think schools need to work on finding things that are more in tune with daily life rather than pounding into my head the damn derivative of a stupid slope.
    I agree also. I think learning about the 20th century is also more important then learning ancient history. School curriculum def needs to be updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renesis
    College student ;(
    I'm guessing you're not majoring in an Engineering or Science related field?

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    canada is no different. kids dropping out from every secondary school left and right.


    times are changing. ways are changing. so should the educational approach towards em all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969 View Post
    I'm guessing you're not majoring in an Engineering or Science related field?
    Well I was doing pre-med and I got a B+ in Calc . Im smart I just don't like doing things that I can't see helping me in my career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    I agree also. I think learning about the 20th century is also more important then learning ancient history. School curriculum def needs to be updated.
    it is being updated, after all it normally takes 5 years to teach a person to speak english before you can teach them history..

    it's called dumbing down the work in order to graduate more kids, or meet the "no kids left behind" requirements..

    The issue is in real life, all certifications and higher learning teach to the test, which can be good, but some one with 5 years of experience has much more knowledge and are much more capable to perform the job..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renesis View Post
    Well I was doing pre-med and I got a B+ in Calc . Im smart I just don't like doing things that I can't see helping me in my career.
    Ahh... well I guess the only purpose it would serve for you is problem solving skills. I'm in Engineering and thought the same thing about Calculus but once I got done with my 4 calc classes and started taking more engineering and science courses it showed me how useful the principles of calculus are.

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