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    Government Passing Out $40 checks

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Millions of $40 government coupons became available Tuesday to help low-tech television owners buy special converter boxes for older TVs that might not work after the switch to digital broadcasting.

    Beginning February 18, 2009, anyone who does not own a digital set and still gets their programming via over-the-air antennas will no longer receive a picture.

    That's the day the television industry completes its transition from old-style analog broadcasting to digital.

    The converter boxes are expected to cost between $50 and $70 and will be available at most major electronics retail stores. Starting Tuesday, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration will begin accepting requests for two $40 coupons per household to be used toward the purchase of the boxes.

    Viewers who have satellite or cable service will not need a box.

    To request a coupon, consumers can apply online at www.dtv2009.gov. The government also has set up a 24-hour hotline to take requests, 1-888-DTV-2009 (1-888-388-2009).

    Congress, in ordering the transition to digital broadcasting, set aside $1.5 billion for the coupon program, which will fund 33.5 million coupons and other costs.

    The giveaway basically works under the honor system.

    The first 22 million coupons will go to all households that request them. That includes a residence that gets cable service for one television but has a spare TV that still uses an antenna, for example.

    The rest of the coupons, however, are meant only for those who do not subscribe to a pay-television service.

    The Nielsen Co. estimates that 14.3 million households, or about 13 percent of the 112.8 million total television households in the nation, rely on over-the-air television broadcasts for programming.

    Tony Wilhelm, director of consumer education for NTIA, said the agency expects to have enough coupons to satisfy demand. "We think the high number will be 26 million," he said. "Low end is 10 million."

    Members of Congress have criticized both the National Telecommunications and Information Administration and the Federal Communications Commission for their work on the transition to digital television.

    In November, the Government Accountability Office, Congress' investigative arm, released a report that concluded there is "no comprehensive plan" for the transition.

    Most of the concern rests with public education campaigns. While Congress allocated $1.5 billion for the coupon program, only $5 million was for education. The Association for Public Television Stations reported in September that 51 percent of participants surveyed were unaware that the transition was taking place.

    Since then, the broadcast industry has announced a voluntary public education campaign. The FCC is circulating a plan among commissioners that would make public education efforts by broadcasters mandatory.

    Congress ordered the transition to digital broadcasting to make more efficient use of the publicly owned airwaves.

    On January 24, the FCC will auction off the spectrum currently used for analog television. That portion of the airwaves will be sold to wireless providers and is expected to bring in as much as $15 billion. A portion of the spectrum will also be dedicated for use by emergency responders.



    - how ****ing stupid.......any one else see the part where the government set aside 1.5 billion!? DON'T WE HAVE BETTER SHIT TO SET 1.5 BILLION ASIDE FOR?

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    It sounds stupid, but they are going to make a profit of 13.5 billion. It's just PR so nobody can say they are exploiting the poor. The problem is poor people are too lazy or uninformed about these programs to sign up for the 40 bucks anyway.

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    what a waste.

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    The older I get, the more I hate our government.

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    You guys think i will need a box for mine ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small View Post
    The older I get, the more I hate our government.
    You mean, the more "Educated" you become on our Governments communistic policies, the more you dislike them.

    If only the majority could educate themselves, we could win our gov't back.
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    What would you do with a box dsm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    What would you do with a box dsm?
    i need to convert the signal

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    I guess it was a bad joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    I guess it was a bad joke.
    lol i thought it was clever ......and i also like how they're just going by the honor system.....and don't forget its two per house hold.....so who else is gonna apply for $80

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    Quote Originally Posted by qualityclrk1 View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Millions of $40 government coupons became available Tuesday to help low-tech television owners buy special converter boxes for older TVs that might not work after the switch to digital broadcasting.

    Beginning February 18, 2009, anyone who does not own a digital set and still gets their programming via over-the-air antennas will no longer receive a picture.

    That's the day the television industry completes its transition from old-style analog broadcasting to digital.

    The converter boxes are expected to cost between $50 and $70 and will be available at most major electronics retail stores. Starting Tuesday, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration will begin accepting requests for two $40 coupons per household to be used toward the purchase of the boxes.

    Viewers who have satellite or cable service will not need a box.

    To request a coupon, consumers can apply online at www.dtv2009.gov. The government also has set up a 24-hour hotline to take requests, 1-888-DTV-2009 (1-888-388-2009).

    Congress, in ordering the transition to digital broadcasting, set aside $1.5 billion for the coupon program, which will fund 33.5 million coupons and other costs.

    The giveaway basically works under the honor system.

    The first 22 million coupons will go to all households that request them. That includes a residence that gets cable service for one television but has a spare TV that still uses an antenna, for example.

    The rest of the coupons, however, are meant only for those who do not subscribe to a pay-television service.

    The Nielsen Co. estimates that 14.3 million households, or about 13 percent of the 112.8 million total television households in the nation, rely on over-the-air television broadcasts for programming.

    Tony Wilhelm, director of consumer education for NTIA, said the agency expects to have enough coupons to satisfy demand. "We think the high number will be 26 million," he said. "Low end is 10 million."

    Members of Congress have criticized both the National Telecommunications and Information Administration and the Federal Communications Commission for their work on the transition to digital television.

    In November, the Government Accountability Office, Congress' investigative arm, released a report that concluded there is "no comprehensive plan" for the transition.

    Most of the concern rests with public education campaigns. While Congress allocated $1.5 billion for the coupon program, only $5 million was for education. The Association for Public Television Stations reported in September that 51 percent of participants surveyed were unaware that the transition was taking place.

    Since then, the broadcast industry has announced a voluntary public education campaign. The FCC is circulating a plan among commissioners that would make public education efforts by broadcasters mandatory.

    Congress ordered the transition to digital broadcasting to make more efficient use of the publicly owned airwaves.

    On January 24, the FCC will auction off the spectrum currently used for analog television. That portion of the airwaves will be sold to wireless providers and is expected to bring in as much as $15 billion. A portion of the spectrum will also be dedicated for use by emergency responders.



    - how ****ing stupid.......any one else see the part where the government set aside 1.5 billion!? DON'T WE HAVE BETTER SHIT TO SET 1.5 BILLION ASIDE FOR?
    Obviously you don't understand what's happening. When they flip the switch to digital, all analog TVs will stop working. That means your Mom and grand parents TV will stop working. Why should they pay out of pocket to buy a converter box? The coupon program is so they don't have to.

    They set aside 1.5 billion for the program. They're about to make at least 15 billion!!! from auctioning off the analog spectrum to cell providers. So subtract 1.5 billion from 15 billion and it ain't much at all.

    Start reading home theater web site and you'll understand the benefits of the switch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    Obviously you don't understand what's happening. When they flip the switch to digital, all analog TVs will stop working. That means your Mom and grand parents TV will stop working. Why should they pay out of pocket to buy a converter box? The coupon program is so they don't have to.

    They set aside 1.5 billion for the program. They're about to make at least 15 billion!!! from auctioning off the analog spectrum to cell providers. So subtract 1.5 billion from 15 billion and it ain't much at all.

    Start reading home theater web site and you'll understand the benefits of the switch.
    mom and grandma got newer tv's than i do bro'

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    I'm too cheap to pay for cable service. Why pay for programming if they're still going to interrupt it with obnoxious commercials?

    I have two color TVs now, and can't bring myself to spend $1000 just so I can keep watching PBS, David Letterman, and Sunday morning talking heads. It ain't worth it. I ain't gonna do it.

    One of these days, the BigWigs of Industry are gonna decide they need to sell a bunch more new TV sets. So they're gonna "improve" the standards so everyone will need a new TV. My guess is that they'll make the screens taller, so they can fit more "stuff" into the picture. Probably to a 4:3 aspect ratio. As an added bonus, we'll be able to view all those neat antique shows they've had sitting in storage for decades.

    Ah, screw 'em.

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    ^ True that.

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    This is just another form of handout from the gov't to continue to make people believe that they need the gov't in their daily lives to run it for them and without them they cannot live.

    I mean wtf people? $40 coupons so you and I can continue to watch TV? ****ing pathetic!

    Then again, without TV the most effective brainwashing tool looses some potency, you know, the media that everyone watches and relies upon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja
    Then again, without TV the most effective brainwashing tool looses some potency, you know, the media that everyone watches and relies upon.
    exactly why they want everyone to get these coupons and continue to be brainwashed by the media

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    The founding fathers of the country are presently spinning in their graves at 6,000 RPM's...... Congress using their time to discuss TELEVISION...jesus christ...

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    I signed up for my coupons. Nobody is going to stop the govt. from doing this. So, I figuered I better get mine since it's my tax $$ that is being spent on it. I will probably just buy the converter and sell them on Ebay. Hey, that's the American way, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ncogneato View Post
    I signed up for my coupons. Nobody is going to stop the govt. from doing this. So, I figuered I better get mine since it's my tax $$ that is being spent on it. I will probably just buy the converter and sell them on Ebay. Hey, that's the American way, right?
    Unbelievable.
    You’re the epitome of why things are so screwed up. Its people like you that have made this way of thinking the "American way." No wonder this country continues to go downhill.

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    I don't know why you guys are mad about this like Carlos said they are taking away the use of your T.V. if you get your signal from the air. Why should you need to pay for the converter when they are making a profit of 13.5 billion on the low end as I said in my above post? If you don't need the box don't apply for the coupons, you are taking away from taxpayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    I don't know why you guys are mad about this like Carlos said they are taking away the use of your T.V. if you get your signal from the air. Why should you need to pay for the converter when they are making a profit of 13.5 billion on the low end as I said in my above post? If you don't need the box don't apply for the coupons, you are taking away from taxpayers.
    Exactly. My grand mother, aunts and uncles have old TVs. Thy don't watch enough television to buy a brand new digital TV. If they're being forced to use a digital converter box to get over the air broadcasts they shouldn't have to pay for it. So yeah, I already signed them up for their coupons. I think people who are pissed off about it, don't understand what it is.
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    people should just spend less time watching TV, its the ultimate waste of human thought.

    My parents must watch 6+ hours a day and I cant even imagine watching more than an hour a day, if that. The only good use for a TV is video games, not the media and propoganda

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