McCain chooses Sarah Palin for VP

[DeputyLoneWolf]

Obama running as a candidate for change and picks Biden for his VP haha.

I know, and Carlos still refuses to tell me if he's still supporting Obama... lol

[BITTAPART2]

umm I think carlos is supporting Obama. palin would get a creamed out mug from me and thats about it, not my vote. But still cant wait until the Maxim comes out after her and the old bag lose the presidential race. damn that pic of her with the gun gave me wood QUICK like, cialis last night may have helped that. Bitta goes to rub one out

[BgMc31]

Because they are so anti gun. Why don't you try thinking for a change?

I know that thinking is an entirely new concept for you deputydumbdumb (now I see how you obtained that name!). Being pro gun control is not the same as being anti-gun. Learn how to think for yourself and stop being brainwashed by Rush, Levin, and Hannity!

[Carlos_E]

TPM Election Central adds a few more bits like the fact that Palin "relied on an earmark system she now opposes", as well as supporting the Bridge to Nowhere before the funding was cut. Which, of course, means that when she said "I told Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that bridge to nowhere," she wasn't exactly telling the truth.

And besides all that, she was a Director of Ted Stevens' 527 corporation, and hired his former chief of staff as a lobbyist for Wasilla. (Question: why does such a small town need a lobbyist? "Of 149 incorporated places in Alaska, just six of them had paid registered lobbyists in 2002, including Wasilla, lobbying records show.")

Of these stories, Palin's past membership in the Alaskan Independence Party seems the most damaging to me. The Party's Introduction page has this quote from its founder:

"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."
Its goal has its own separate page:

"The Alaskan Independence Party's goal is the vote we were entitled to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:
1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.

The call for this vote is in furtherance of the dream of the Alaskan Independence Party's founding father, Joe Vogler, that Alaskans achieve independence under a minimal government, fully responsive to the people, and promoting a peaceful and lawful means of resolving differences."

Here's its platform, and here are its statements on issues. Among its positions are the reclamation of all federal land through homesteading, the abolition of all property taxes, the prohibition of all bureaucratic regulations not expressly passed by the legislature, "the right of jurors to judge the law as well as the facts," and a host of other things. But their main goal is the vote on independence mentioned above, which should be "a true plebecite according to international law, only legal Alaskan citizens, it is in the language of the people, federal military and their dependants are not legal citizens and will not be allowed to vote in this plebescite." (So much for the right of military personnel to register to vote where they live, like the rest of us. Although since they don't spell out who counts as a "legal Alaskan citizen", maybe the rest of us wouldn't have the right to vote in the plebiscite either.)

On the Party's website, there's an article by Joe Vogler explaining what he thinks was wrong with the original vote by which Alaskans chose statehood. I got about halfway through it and became unable to read carefully (it's long, and not well-written.) If anyone makes it through, please feel free to correct the provisional opinion that follows. That said: as far as I can tell, this is one of those articles that voluble cranks write when they encounter something that sets them off. Documents are adduced, footnotes proliferate, there is every appearance of monstrous erudition, and yet the whole thing makes no sense. Reading it reminded me of the time I was at a survivalist convention (don't even ask), and someone tried to explain to me, in excruciating detail, why the entire income tax was illegitimate.

This is a nutty organization. It is, moreover, an organization whose founder took his views, and the Party's, to imply that he was not an American.

The McCain campaign has been more than willing to question Obama's patriotism on the basis of nothing at all. Yet when asked about Sarah Palin's past membership in a secessionist party, "a McCain spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment."

[39+1]

I always vote for the best looking girl that way i dont get disappointed

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Palin is in no way, ready to run this country

[DeputyLoneWolf]

TPM Election Central adds a few more bits like the fact that Palin "relied on an earmark system she now opposes", as well as supporting the Bridge to Nowhere before the funding was cut. Which, of course, means that when she said "I told Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that bridge to nowhere," she wasn't exactly telling the truth.

And besides all that, she was a Director of Ted Stevens' 527 corporation, and hired his former chief of staff as a lobbyist for Wasilla. (Question: why does such a small town need a lobbyist? "Of 149 incorporated places in Alaska, just six of them had paid registered lobbyists in 2002, including Wasilla, lobbying records show.")

Of these stories, Palin's past membership in the Alaskan Independence Party seems the most damaging to me. The Party's Introduction page has this quote from its founder:

"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."
Its goal has its own separate page:

"The Alaskan Independence Party's goal is the vote we were entitled to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:
1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.

The call for this vote is in furtherance of the dream of the Alaskan Independence Party's founding father, Joe Vogler, that Alaskans achieve independence under a minimal government, fully responsive to the people, and promoting a peaceful and lawful means of resolving differences."

Here's its platform, and here are its statements on issues. Among its positions are the reclamation of all federal land through homesteading, the abolition of all property taxes, the prohibition of all bureaucratic regulations not expressly passed by the legislature, "the right of jurors to judge the law as well as the facts," and a host of other things. But their main goal is the vote on independence mentioned above, which should be "a true plebecite according to international law, only legal Alaskan citizens, it is in the language of the people, federal military and their dependants are not legal citizens and will not be allowed to vote in this plebescite." (So much for the right of military personnel to register to vote where they live, like the rest of us. Although since they don't spell out who counts as a "legal Alaskan citizen", maybe the rest of us wouldn't have the right to vote in the plebiscite either.)

On the Party's website, there's an article by Joe Vogler explaining what he thinks was wrong with the original vote by which Alaskans chose statehood. I got about halfway through it and became unable to read carefully (it's long, and not well-written.) If anyone makes it through, please feel free to correct the provisional opinion that follows. That said: as far as I can tell, this is one of those articles that voluble cranks write when they encounter something that sets them off. Documents are adduced, footnotes proliferate, there is every appearance of monstrous erudition, and yet the whole thing makes no sense. Reading it reminded me of the time I was at a survivalist convention (don't even ask), and someone tried to explain to me, in excruciating detail, why the entire income tax was illegitimate.

This is a nutty organization. It is, moreover, an organization whose founder took his views, and the Party's, to imply that he was not an American.

The McCain campaign has been more than willing to question Obama's patriotism on the basis of nothing at all. Yet when asked about Sarah Palin's past membership in a secessionist party, "a McCain spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment."

^^Lol "Mr. Cut and Paste" strikes again.

[DeputyLoneWolf]

I know that thinking is an entirely new concept for you deputydumbdumb (now I see how you obtained that name!). Being pro gun control is not the same as being anti-gun. Learn how to think for yourself and stop being brainwashed by Rush, Levin, and Hannity!

I don't listen to them at all. And I think for myself. Thats like me assuming you listen to Louis Farrakan and Jerimiah Wright. You just prove over and over that you are just mad at the world and feel that this country owes you a living, healthcare and also needs to pay for your children to go to college.

People like YOU need to do some real thinking for yourselves before we end up with a president (Obama) that refuese to put his hand over his heart or even wear an american flag. Wathc this and tell me what you think. And before you go on and on I too feel they spent too much time on his name of wich I could care less.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yMn96ACAtg

[Dizz28]

Mccain just gave the presidency to Obama. No matter who you support, you have to agree on that. All Mccain has had to say about obama is ho he is inexperienced to run the country but yet he picks someone as his VP (who very well might have to take office soon...) that has much much less experience poilitically and leadership wise.

This was political pandering at it's peak

[BgMc31]

I don't listen to them at all. And I think for myself. Thats like me assuming you listen to Louis Farrakan and Jerimiah Wright. You just prove over and over that you are just mad at the world and feel that this country owes you a living, healthcare and also needs to pay for your children to go to college.

People like YOU need to do some real thinking for yourselves before we end up with a president (Obama) that refuese to put his hand over his heart or even wear an american flag. Wathc this and tell me what you think. And before you go on and on I too feel they spent too much time on his name of wich I could care less.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yMn96ACAtg

Dude your level of ignorance is truly withouts limits! The fact that you actually believe Barack 'refuses' to wear the American flag or put his hand over his heart shows how simple minded and easily brainwashed you are. Both falsehoods have been debunked numerous times and this has been acknowledged by even Hannity, Levin, and Savage. For every pic u produce of Obama without that lapel pin I can produce an equal number if not more of McCain, Bush, Clinton and every other major politician without one as well.

And lastly, if you, again, had the ability of reading comprehension you would have read that I don't 'expect' the richest country in the world to pay for college or healthcare but merely to make it 'available'. Typical of an neoconservative, right winger to attempt to skew an obvious point.

[Red Ketchup]

Found that this morning... made me smile...



Though I agree that the kid does not belong in the public eye, one cannot fail to notice that her unwed underage pregnancy is the direct result of her mothers anti-sex-ed and pro-abstinance position...

Red

[Carlos_E]

Dude your level of ignorance is truly withouts limits!

Now you see why I don't bother to reply to him.

[DeputyLoneWolf]

Now you see why I don't bother to reply to him.

No you just cannot debate.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Screwed either way.

Republicans (Nazis): jihadists, wiretapping, terror, war, national id, torture

Democrats (Soviet Union): free healthcare, social security, war, welfare

Ron Paul (We The People): Uphold the constitution

[MuscleScience]

Screwed either way.

Republicans (Nazis): jihadists, wiretapping, terror, war, national id, torture

Democrats (Soviet Union): free healthcare, social security, war, welfare

Ron Paul (We The People): Uphold the constitution

nice!!!!!!

[Voice of Reason]

I believe we are all too stupid and too smart for are own good, unwilling to make any real change ourselves and depending on these people we see on a T.V. to help us. Cause of all the vices given to us through our lives by this country I doubt anyone is willing to sacrifice for the better good of humanity. My point your all fvcking pussies and need to be willing to kill and die to make any real change in this world. Bitches...

[Voice of Reason]

Or... let's just nature take it's course maybe these Elitist really know whats good for the betterment of mankind, of course a few million lives will be lost to a New World Order, 1 government, 1 Planet Earth United sounds good who knows???
It may be nice, just hope I'm not one to die for the utopia...

[Carlos_E]

No you just cannot debate.

Yes I can. I don't care to entertain your stupidity made apparent by ANSWER MY THREAD! ANSWER MY THREAD! You're like a child having a tantrum to get my attention. Well, you just got it and you're not getting any more.

[39+1]

Who ever is the best looking is who you should vote for.

[DeputyLoneWolf]

Yes I can. I don't care to entertain your stupidity made apparent by ANSWER MY THREAD! ANSWER MY THREAD! You're like a child having a tantrum to get my attention. Well, you just got it and you're not getting any more.

Lol this proves my point, what a simple mind.

[DeputyLoneWolf]

Screwed either way.

Republicans (Nazis): jihadists, wiretapping, terror, war, national id, torture

Democrats (Soviet Union): free healthcare, social security, war, welfare

Ron Paul (We The People): Uphold the constitution

Ron Paul would have got my vote if he had a chance.

[DeputyLoneWolf]

Dude your level of ignorance is truly withouts limits! The fact that you actually believe Barack 'refuses' to wear the American flag or put his hand over his heart shows how simple minded and easily brainwashed you are. Both falsehoods have been debunked numerous times and this has been acknowledged by even Hannity, Levin, and Savage. For every pic u produce of Obama without that lapel pin I can produce an equal number if not more of McCain, Bush, Clinton and every other major politician without one as well.

And lastly, if you, again, had the ability of reading comprehension you would have read that I don't 'expect' the richest country in the world to pay for college or healthcare but merely to make it 'available'. Typical of an neoconservative, right winger to attempt to skew an obvious point.

Ok let's get into some real issues shall we? I stand that Obama is ashamed to be American and his actions prove it. He has gone to a out of control racist church for the last 20years and still supports Jerimaiah Wright. That guy is a racist if I have ever seen one. Saying things like "Barack knows what it's like to grow up in a country controlled by rich white people!!!" from his pulpit during a sermon. And what about his church giving a life achievment award to Louis Farrakan? A man who believes that white people where created by a nutty black scientist? I really hate racists both white and black. It's people like that that keep all these issues in the limelight. Oh, and what about Obama's Campaign office in Texas having a Cuban flag on the wall with the likeness of the communist mass murderer, Che Guevara, on it? His campaign denied suporting that or knowing about it but that CLEARLY shows you what kind of people support him. These same people are not what I call real Americans. They have no interest in this country past what it can be made to do for them. I'm sorry but I am an American and stand for the princicples this country what founded and built on. I do not like fake people like Obama because he is a n empty suit and will only use the presidency to furhter his personal agendas. He is an eloquent speaker but thats it. He is not living in the real world, most people aren't these days. Maybe I just have a more clar view of things because I wear boots and a gun to work.

So BgMc, what is your take on Jerimaih wright and all the surrounding issues?

I am interested to hear.

DLW

[SMCengineer]

Ron Paul would have got my vote if he had a chance.

You're not voting to pick a winner, you vote your conscience.

[FallenWyvern]

You're not voting to pick a winner, you vote your conscience.

You should talk to the Floridians that voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 and see if voting with their conscience got them anywhere. I don't think they wanted Bush to win.

Save yourself the time, just don't vote and quit posting about irrelevant president hopefuls. Why not proclaim yourself as a better presidential hopeful. You, me, your neighbor, David Nolen, Ron Paul or Bob Barr could be better presidential hopefuls.

The relevant conversation is about McCain and Obama. One of the two will be president. Seems like every political post gets wrecked by some upholding the constitution blah blah blah....

I think most people are talking about the elections prefer to talk about people that can win. I could give some great talking points about how I would be a better choice. But guess what, who cares?


Back on topic, I thought at first when I heard about Sarah Palin, I thought McCain was a big dummy.

She has no experience at all. No business being a heartbeat away from being president yet, none. Horrible choice.

She has more experience than Obama.

I guess her inexperience glares in the face of Obama, maybe McCain isn't a dummy.

I still don't really get it. I don't know why anybody would vote for McCain. I could if only I disliked Obama more. I will probably not waste any time with voting or making any more posts about politics.

Not like it matters unless you live in a swing state anyways.

[BgMc31]

Ok let's get into some real issues shall we? I stand that Obama is ashamed to be American and his actions prove it. He has gone to a out of control racist church for the last 20years and still supports Jerimaiah Wright. That guy is a racist if I have ever seen one. Saying things like "Barack knows what it's like to grow up in a country controlled by rich white people!!!" from his pulpit during a sermon. And what about his church giving a life achievment award to Louis Farrakan? A man who believes that white people where created by a nutty black scientist? I really hate racists both white and black. It's people like that that keep all these issues in the limelight. Oh, and what about Obama's Campaign office in Texas having a Cuban flag on the wall with the likeness of the communist mass murderer, Che Guevara, on it? His campaign denied suporting that or knowing about it but that CLEARLY shows you what kind of people support him. These same people are not what I call real Americans. They have no interest in this country past what it can be made to do for them. I'm sorry but I am an American and stand for the princicples this country what founded and built on. I do not like fake people like Obama because he is a n empty suit and will only use the presidency to furhter his personal agendas. He is an eloquent speaker but thats it. He is not living in the real world, most people aren't these days. Maybe I just have a more clar view of things because I wear boots and a gun to work.

So BgMc, what is your take on Jerimaih wright and all the surrounding issues?

I am interested to hear.

DLW

Search this site and you will see where I stand on Wright and the other 'surrounding issues' as you call them. The fact that you have proven your ignorance about Trinity Baptist Church, and the fact that you continue to question Obama's patriotism is ridiculous. You've brought up points that have been debunked time and time again but you continue to bring them up. So a debate with you is pointless. You don't listen nor do you, obviously, have the ability to comprehend much beyond your narrow-minded bigotted viewpoints.

[SMCengineer]

You should talk to the Floridians that voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 and see if voting with their conscience got them anywhere. I don't think they wanted Bush to win.

This is an assine assumption that because they voted for Nader that they would'nt have voted for Bush or would have voted for Gore. When in reallity they didn't vote for either because they liked Nader. However, Bush didn't win because of Nader. He won because he got more support and that's it.

Save yourself the time, just don't vote and quit posting about irrelevant president hopefuls. Why not proclaim yourself as a better presidential hopeful. You, me, your neighbor, David Nolen, Ron Paul or Bob Barr could be better presidential hopefuls.

Where exactly did I post about irrelevant presidential hopefuls in this thread? I merely stated that you should vote for who you believe would be best for the spot of POTUS, whether it be a mainstream candidate or a third party candidate. You shouldn't vote based on who you believe will win, which is how most people vote.

The relevant conversation is about McCain and Obama. One of the two will be president. Seems like every political post gets wrecked by some upholding the constitution blah blah blah....

I think most people are talking about the elections prefer to talk about people that can win. I could give some great talking points about how I would be a better choice. But guess what, who cares?

So you'd rather talk about how Palin's daughter is pregnant and how it's a "cover-up" for her supposed son Trig? Or would you rather talk about how much Obama's wife "hates America" and how he doesn't wear a flag pin? This is what's "relevant" in the elections today and if you'd like to talk about that be my guest, but I don't like taking part in the dumbing down of America. By the way, this goes much further than who the next president is.

Back on topic, I thought at first when I heard about Sarah Palin, I thought McCain was a big dummy.

She has no experience at all. No business being a heartbeat away from being president yet, none. Horrible choice.

She has more experience than Obama.

I guess her inexperience glares in the face of Obama, maybe McCain isn't a dummy.

I still don't really get it. I don't know why anybody would vote for McCain. I could if only I disliked Obama more. I will probably not waste any time with voting or making any more posts about politics.

Not like it matters unless you live in a swing state anyways.

Agreed

[Tock]

Saying things like "Barack knows what it's like to grow up in a country controlled by rich white people!!!" from his pulpit during a sermon.

Duh!
Anyone who has grown up in the USA knows what it's like to grow up in a country that's controlled by rich white people. Rich white people constitute the majority of the office holders and policy makers here in the USA. Barrack's preacher is only stating the obvious . . .

And what about his church giving a life achievment award to Louis Farrakan? A man who believes that white people where created by a nutty black scientist?

That's not any stranger than a man who beleives that the Earth is 6000 years old, that the first man had an intelligible conversation with a talking snake, and that the vast majority of humanity is destined to writhe in unspeakable torment for millions of billions of ages, all for the offense of harboring an honest doubt that the bible is 100% inerrant.

I really hate racists both white and black. It's people like that that keep all these issues in the limelight.

Look at the upside. At least you have an entire group of people that you are better than.

Oh, and what about Obama's Campaign office in Texas having a Cuban flag on the wall with the likeness of the communist mass murderer, Che Guevara, on it?

That was from Mark Cuban (the guy who owns the Dalllas Mavericks), and the likeness was of himself.

His campaign denied suporting that or knowing about it but that CLEARLY shows you what kind of people support him.

Certainly they cannot be Real Americans like yourself.

These same people are not what I call real Americans.

Of course not.

I'm sorry but I am an American and stand for the princicples this country what founded and built on.

Like slavery, no women voting, funding a state church with tax dollars, confiscating property owned by Native Americans (and then breaking treaties with them), throwing gay people in prison for having gay sex at home in private, confiscating the property of millions of asian-americans during WW2 and denying them their constitutional right of due process, etc etc etc?
Yep, America is better than a lot of other hell-holes on this planet, but it has lots of room for improvement.

I do not like fake people like Obama because he is a n empty suit and will only use the presidency to furhter his personal agendas.

Would you prefer a different candidate who would only use the presidency to further your personal agendas?

He is not living in the real world, most people aren't these days.

So true, so true . . .

Maybe I just have a more clar view of things because I wear boots and a gun to work.

That must be it.
Anyone who wears a gun to work (or, as you say, just "boots and a gun") certainly must have a unique view of things . . .

[BUYLONGTERM]

I have always been a die hard republican. After dealing with BUSH for the last 8 years and listening to Obama, I thought for thet first time in my life I would vote Democrat. But, after hearing McCain's speech last night, I am going vote for him. I look at it this way. He is NOT BUSH. He has MUCH more experience than OBAMA. I truly believe he cares about America. He is MUCH more of a leader than OBAMA. And I don't want to hear the crap about our economy right now. Who does everyone think runs congress?

[Kingweb50]

Who does everyone think runs congress?

With as many liberals in both the house and senate right now even if McCain would veto a bill they have enough people to override it. Thats a scary situation.

[BgMc31]

I have always been a die hard republican. After dealing with BUSH for the last 8 years and listening to Obama, I thought for thet first time in my life I would vote Democrat. But, after hearing McCain's speech last night, I am going vote for him. I look at it this way. He is NOT BUSH. He has MUCH more experience than OBAMA. I truly believe he cares about America. He is MUCH more of a leader than OBAMA. And I don't want to hear the crap about our economy right now. Who does everyone think runs congress?

1st let me preface this by saying I think Palin gave an excellent speech the other day. Even though I'm an Obama supporter I hae to give her credit. McCain, however, did a horrible job, IMO. He seemed lost and fustrated at times (some due to the protesters distractions). The crowd's perceived excitement seemed forced to me.

As far as congress is concerned, The Dems only have true control of the House. In the senate, its a one person advantage, not nearly enough to pass any legistation in their favor. And lastly, Bush vetoes every democratic proposal that crosses his desk and without the overwhelming majority to overcome that, congress' is spinning its wheels and nothing gets done. So yes look at the economy, McCain is Bush! I'm tired of hearing about him being a POW. That's all he talks about and basis his qualifactions soley based on that.

[Kingweb50]

Its easy to run as a liberal they say we will give you this we will give you that dont bother working for it even though it will cost more money then we could possibly have to spend. This is a dumb saying but didnt jesus say something like is it better for me to give you a fish or teach you how to fish.

[39+1]

Dont confuse yourself or deny your feelings always vote for the best looking girl or man if you living the alternative lifestyle. Is that pkay with you carlos since you always make a fuss about how i champion the Non Homoerectus?

[BgMc31]

Its easy to run as a liberal they say we will give you this we will give you that dont bother working for it even though it will cost more money then we could possibly have to spend. This is a dumb saying but didnt jesus say something like is it better for me to give you a fish or teach you how to fish.

That's a typical bullshit conservative argument! Making social services available is different from giving handouts and not expecting to people to work. Seems to me during the last Democratic administration this country had one of the lowest unemployment rates in history. If giving someone a handout is the same as giving people jobs then only a fool would be opposed to that.

[FallenWyvern]

That's a typical bullshit conservative argument! Making social services available is different from giving handouts and not expecting to people to work. Seems to me during the last Democratic administration this country had one of the lowest unemployment rates in history. If giving someone a handout is the same as giving people jobs then only a fool would be opposed to that.

Politicians don't/can't help the economy. They can only get in the way.

I am not sure which is worse though, socialist handouts or a very expensive war. Pretty sure the war is.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

[Carlos_E]

Dont confuse yourself or deny your feelings always vote for the best looking girl or man if you living the alternative lifestyle. Is that pkay with you carlos since you always make a fuss about how i champion the Non Homoerectus?

Here I go again responding to an idiot. So you're insinuating that I vote based on looks? Next time you try to make a point don't drop my name in it. I don't want my name associated with stupidity.

[BITTAPART2]

I have always been a die hard republican. After dealing with BUSH for the last 8 years and listening to Obama, I thought for thet first time in my life I would vote Democrat. But, after hearing McCain's speech last night, I am going vote for him. I look at it this way. He is NOT BUSH. He has MUCH more experience than OBAMA. I truly believe he cares about America. He is MUCH more of a leader than OBAMA. And I don't want to hear the crap about our economy right now. Who does everyone think runs congress?

Oh I swore you were going to say you fell asleep.

[BITTAPART2]

BTW Palin isnt that hot, if you saw her out of the limelight she would just be some semi flabby, big skull havin mom with a bad accent. But its like when a teacher is Semi hot you automatically lend her the rights to hottness b/c shes a teacher and it helps you with your teacher fantasy.

[eliteforce]

I see this troll DeputyLoneWolf is back with his idiotic rant over and over again, i think last time i checked this forum a month ago i read the same thing he posts over and over again..

"Obama-racist church, racist chrch, racist church, hes a racist a racist, racist "
racism is policies, not a preacher that uses fiery politically incorrect rhetoric to complain about inequalities in american society.. In the 80s Obama and Wright worked on the issue of Aphartied South Africa-to put presure on that regime to end it's policies of discrimination, it's policies, not rhetoric..


The troopergate thing sounds pretty serious, the report comes out in early october..

IS there a california independence party, i think i love the idea of USA becoming a commonwealth, or more like the EU, with less central control.
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Republicans (Nazis): jihadists, wiretapping, terror, war, national id, torture

Democrats (Soviet Union): free healthcare, social security, war, welfare

Ron Paul (We The People): Uphold the constitution
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thats briliant

[Flagg]

Man I just cant stand Sarah Palin the more and more I read about her..seriously, how can you credit this woman with intelligence when she denies ev0lution and believes the Earth is a few thousand years old? Her disregard for the environment and wildlife in general makes me sick.

Ive read quite a few newspapers here and listened to quite a few correspondants, and noone seems to like this woman much, especially women themselves! Sadly, that's the UK...