World wants Obama as next US president

[Prada]

http://www.thewest.com.au/aapstory.a...oryName=513459

0th September 2008, 3:27 WST

Most people around the world would prefer Democrat Barack Obama to win the US presidential election over his Republican rival John McCain, a new poll spanning 22 countries - including Australia - showed.

The BBC World Service survey found the most common view in all nations polled was that Obama - who staged a euphoric European and Middle Eastern tour in July that included a speech to 200,000 fans in Berlin - should win in November.

An average of 46 per cent of those questioned thought US relations with the rest of the world would improve if Obama took office, compared to just 20 per cent for McCain, the survey of 22,500 people found.

Global approval ratings for the United States are currently low - a BBC World Service poll earlier this year found 49 per cent of people surveyed had a negative view of US influence, compared to 32 per cent who viewed it positively.

Those most optimistic about an Obama presidency's impact on US external relations were people in America's NATO allies - Canada, France, Germany, Britain and Italy - as well as Australia, Nigeria and Kenya.

Forty-six per cent said having a black US president would "fundamentally change" their perception of the United States, and 27 per cent said it would not.

"Large numbers of people around the world clearly like what Barack Obama represents," said Doug Miller, chairman of GlobeScan which conducted the poll.

"Given how negative America's international image is at present, it is quite striking that only one in five think a McCain presidency would improve on the Bush administration's relations with the world."

However, there is nothing to suggest Obama's popularity abroad will bring success at home - he is neck and neck with McCain in US opinion polls, and a similar BBC survey before the 2004 US election found strong global support for John Kerry, the Democrat who eventually lost to incumbent George Bush.

Internationally, the margin in favour of Obama ranged from just nine per cent in India to 82 per cent in Kenya, where the Democrat has family. On average, 49 per cent preferred Obama to 12 per cent in favour of McCain.

Nearly four in 10 people did not take a position, with this attitude most common in Russia, Singapore, Turkey, India and Egypt.

An average of 46 per cent thought US relations with the rest of the world would improve under Obama, 22 per cent thought they would stay the same and seven per cent thought they would get worse.

Only 20 per cent thought relations would improve under McCain, although this figure was around 30 per cent in China, India and Nigeria. An average 37 per cent expected no change and 16 per cent thought relations would get worse.

There was less optimism, however, in the three predominantly Muslim countries involved in the poll.

The most common view in Turkey - held by 28 per cent of people - was that relations under Obama would get worse, while in Egypt and Lebanon the largest groups (34 and 42 per cent respectively) believed relations would not change.

The survey was carried out in July and August in Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Egypt, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Kenya, Lebanon, Mexico, Nigeria, Panama, the Philippines, Poland, Russia, Singapore, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, Britain and the United States.

[VWbug66]

go obama!!

[peachfuzz]

i dont even know where to start. so im not going to.

[thegodfather]

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy for Socialism!!! WOOT WOOT WOOT WOOT....

VOTE: OBAMA/MA** 08!

[VWbug66]

x-infinity godfather!! we're in a deep need for CHANGE.

[39+1]

K.I.S.S Just vote for the best looking woman

[beefjr22]

I am not voting for obama, not gonna pay more taxes so lil reymond riding welfare and unemployment can get more food stamps....JMO

[spywizard]

the rest of the world?? you mean all the people that are paying 50% + taxes stoning people in the streets and killing anyone that is different than them??

those people??

yet another reason to vote republican..

[peachfuzz]

K.I.S.S Just vote for the best looking woman

I am not voting for obama, not gonna pay more taxes so lil reymond riding welfare and unemployment can get more food stamps....JMO

the rest of the world?? you mean all the people that are paying 50% + taxes stoning people in the streets and killing anyone that is different than them??

those people??

yet another reason to vote republican..

[beefjr22]

the rest of the world?? you mean all the people that are paying 50% + taxes stoning people in the streets and killing anyone that is different than them??

those people??

yet another reason to vote republican..

Amen brother!

[rhino1]

Rest of the world my a$$...if he takes office there will be another 9/11....liberals are reason we get attacked...Im no bush fan but there has not been another successfull terrorist attack in 7 years!....he was doing something right....

Personally...

I would have nuked the 4-5 known capitals that were sponsoring that sun va b1tch bin laden......that would have stopped this $hit real quick

[deliverance]

I am not voting for obama, not gonna pay more taxes so lil reymond riding welfare and unemployment can get more food stamps....JMO

bro i totally agree with you on that...lazy muthafvk*** need to get off there asses and get a job and obama ant about that...talks a good game but aint worth a pennie...how are you going to be president but can tmake simple decisions....raise my taxes for what so he can get paid more and peole without jobs can sti there and live off of society...obama and people like him are leeches of our society today...how does you vp pick say your not ready to be pres. he was picked cause he opposed obama and obama knew if i pick him he will change his statement just so the vp can be in the whit house....besides against us in our ventures on the gear.....

[rhino1]

the only reason the WHOLE WORLD wants obama is because it would make us the weakest...thus the end of an empire

[rhino1]

not to mention....i cant stand a mother fvcker that wants something that they wont get off their a$$ to work for...

[thegodfather]

the only reason the WHOLE WORLD wants obama is because it would make us the weakest...thus the end of an empire

You ought to read this one document, I think you would find it very enlightening and it's something you probably have never even read before. It's actually this piece of paper, that your entire country is based on. This document is called the Constitution of the United States of America.

In this mysterious piece of paper, you will not find in there any provision or authority to maintain an "EMPIRE" and to advance Imperialist agenda's. If you do find that Article or Amendment, please share it with the board.

[rhino1]

You ought to read this one document, I think you would find it very enlightening and it's something you probably have never even read before. It's actually this piece of paper, that your entire country is based on. This document is called the Constitution of the United States of America.

In this mysterious piece of paper, you will not find in there any provision or authority to maintain an "EMPIRE" and to advance Imperialist agenda's. If you do find that Article or Amendment, please share it with the board.

Yea...and i bet you wont find anything about your liberal ideology and how it will cause us to loose our freedom....

[Mighty Joe]

Obama = weak USA and lots more Government and more Taxes.... And you don't even wanna know the truth about socialized medicine!

Vote McCain

[Prada]

the rest of the world?? you mean all the people that are paying 50% + taxes stoning people in the streets and killing anyone that is different than them??

those people??

yet another reason to vote republican..

Just curious. Is that how you view the rest of the world?

[Prada]

Rest of the world my a$$...if he takes office there will be another 9/11....liberals are reason we get attacked...Im no bush fan but there has not been another successfull terrorist attack in 7 years!....he was doing something right....

Personally...

I would have nuked the 4-5 known capitals that were sponsoring that sun va b1tch bin laden......that would have stopped this $hit real quick

Bravo.

[spywizard]

Just curious. Is that how you view the rest of the world?

I judge the rest of the world on what they do, and what they stand for, based on the values that i value.

example;

free speech
value of human life
justice, meaning even when it hurts standing up for a weaker person


example; United nations, started off as a great idea, however the people that are running it are corrupt (another non favorable ideology) example of that is the Food for Fuel payoffs, bribes and everything else

Example; Bigotry... France as an example stopping all visa's into the country because of dilution of their own race/culture

example; South africa, attacking cities and mass raping the women to simply impregnate them attempting to create a situation of genocide of a whole race/villiage

example; asia, human slavery, child prostitution

does the usa have all of this?? yes, but we spend Billions $$$ to stop it, it's a moral high ground for human rights, not based on religious rights..

see a difference.. ??

[BlInDsIdE]

Obama = weak USA and lots more Government and more Taxes.... And you don't even wanna know the truth about socialized medicine!

Vote McCain

totally agree

[beefjr22]

bro i totally agree with you on that...lazy muthafvk*** need to get off there asses and get a job and obama ant about that...talks a good game but aint worth a pennie...how are you going to be president but can tmake simple decisions....raise my taxes for what so he can get paid more and peole without jobs can sti there and live off of society...obama and people like him are leeches of our society today...how does you vp pick say your not ready to be pres. he was picked cause he opposed obama and obama knew if i pick him he will change his statement just so the vp can be in the whit house....besides against us in our ventures on the gear.....

Yeah,,, no sh*t Obama sits there and says I gotta pay for raykwan to get "higher education" so he can get a better paying job.....well seems to me if u keep giving raykwan his handouts, at my expense, then ur sending the message that u dont need to go get an education for a better paying job b/c the gov will take care of u at the expense of others

[rhino1]

fvck OBAMA...he is the anti-christ

[Mike Dura]

Wow. Plenty of ill-informed people posting! Always the confident ones too. Funny.

[rhino1]

Wow. Plenty of ill-informed people posting! Always the confident ones too. Funny.

said the liberal

btw...liberalism is a mental disorder

[Pooks]

now this was written before Palin :-p

[rhino1]

dont underestimate palin...i have a feeling she can handle it...

hell has no fury like a woman scorned

[Flagg]

dont underestimate palin...i have a feeling she can handle it...

hell has no fury like a woman scorned

Are you living in the real world?

[beefjr22]

Are you living in the real world?

dude if obama bin laden gets elected we are fvcked bottomline

[rhino1]

dude if obama bin laden gets elected we are fvcked bottomline

for real

[Mr Tick]

dude if obama bin laden gets elected we are fvcked bottomline

Yep and im moving to a island in the caribbean!!

[thegodfather]

Rhino and Beefjr...You guys are in way over your head in this conversation. Trying to discuss politics with people who actually have a grasp on the political situation in this country. All I hear either of you doing is voicing your propagandized redneck opinions that you most likely are parroting from Fox News network.

Beefjr... You really need to attack Obama's name and make yourself sound like an inbred hick that hasn't graduated the 6th grade? There are a plethora of policy issues for which you could attack the guy and make him seem equally as unappealing to Americans, as many of his ideas are extremely left wing and Socialist. Maybe you could have pointed out the fact that he voted for the FISA bill which had a provision in it to grant immunity to telecom company's who were complicit in breaking the law and violating American citizen's civil liberties. You would have surely sounded much more intelligent and your argument would not have been predicated on a falsehood which you no doubt pulled off of Ann Coulter's blog or some other such right wing extremist site. However, I highly doubt that and most likely you picked up the "Osama bin laden" line from some other inbred hillbilly at your hunting lodge(i mean doublewide).

Rhino1...If you knew the true definition of a liberal, which was a person who believed in civil liberties and individualism you might not be spouting off at the mouth the way you are. It is only in the last couple decades that liberalism has such a perverted meaning which is associated with bleeding heart liberal Democrats. I am a registered Republican(Conservative/Libertarian). However, when you repeat baseless arguments which an Amobea could have pieced together, you are not helping the party out one bit. You simply serve to reaffirm some peoples prejudices and stereotypes that the Republican party is a bunch of good ole boys. I can't say that I'd expect much more from you, as I haven't seen you put forth one coherent sentence yet, so I'd imagine that piecing together an entire argument more then 3 sentences based on facts and statistics would likely be an impossible task for you.

So in closing, you guys ought to leave the politicking up to the people who know what they're talking about and can actually represent the party in a positive manner. Try biting your tongue the next time you feel compelled to interject your mindless uneducated opinions into threads where something of substantative value is being discussed.

[Pooks]

I hope this helps a bit.



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[peachfuzz]

At the risk of sounding ignorant...Show me an honest politician, and ill show you a man (or woman) with no job. Really makes it hard to inform yourself on the candidates when there platform is built on lies and deceit.

[Pooks]

At the risk of sounding ignorant...Show me an honest politician, and ill show you a man (or woman) with no job. Really makes it hard to inform yourself on the candidates when there platform is built on lies and deceit.

99% of them are power-hungry.. which means they're "STATIST" BIG GOVERNMENT control over everything...


There are some exceptions, but neither of the 2 big names in the race are it.

Problem is people want to be helped by the government in some form or another...
so they'll gravitate to something in their platform, not realizing that they are giving away rights in the process in some way or another also.

Ron Paul would had been the best thing for this country,, but his platform, of balancing the budget.. and not specifically helping any group in general.. just the overall health of the nation, hardly got any traction outside college students, old school republicans, and liberitarians.

The other candidates divide the nation, with class warfare this or that.. Ron Paul did not do that, and he got pushed aside.

[Flagg]

Rhino and Beefjr...You guys are in way over your head in this conversation. Trying to discuss politics with people who actually have a grasp on the political situation in this country. All I hear either of you doing is voicing your propagandized redneck opinions that you most likely are parroting from Fox News network.

Beefjr... You really need to attack Obama's name and make yourself sound like an inbred hick that hasn't graduated the 6th grade? There are a plethora of policy issues for which you could attack the guy and make him seem equally as unappealing to Americans, as many of his ideas are extremely left wing and Socialist. Maybe you could have pointed out the fact that he voted for the FISA bill which had a provision in it to grant immunity to telecom company's who were complicit in breaking the law and violating American citizen's civil liberties. You would have surely sounded much more intelligent and your argument would not have been predicated on a falsehood which you no doubt pulled off of Ann Coulter's blog or some other such right wing extremist site. However, I highly doubt that and most likely you picked up the "Osama bin laden" line from some other inbred hillbilly at your hunting lodge(i mean doublewide).

Rhino1...If you knew the true definition of a liberal, which was a person who believed in civil liberties and individualism you might not be spouting off at the mouth the way you are. It is only in the last couple decades that liberalism has such a perverted meaning which is associated with bleeding heart liberal Democrats. I am a registered Republican(Conservative/Libertarian). However, when you repeat baseless arguments which an Amobea could have pieced together, you are not helping the party out one bit. You simply serve to reaffirm some peoples prejudices and stereotypes that the Republican party is a bunch of good ole boys. I can't say that I'd expect much more from you, as I haven't seen you put forth one coherent sentence yet, so I'd imagine that piecing together an entire argument more then 3 sentences based on facts and statistics would likely be an impossible task for you.

So in closing, you guys ought to leave the politicking up to the people who know what they're talking about and can actually represent the party in a positive manner. Try biting your tongue the next time you feel compelled to interject your mindless uneducated opinions into threads where something of substantative value is being discussed.

Bravo Godfather, excellently said. I can't stand people that hate on a politician or a political way of thinking based on their ignorant KKK "white is right" way of thinking. I would go as far to say I know the REAL reason they hate Obama, and im pretty sure you could hazzard a good guess as well but I wont start a flame war.

By the way Rhino, before spouting "liberal" like it's a dirty word, go visit New York one day and take a look at the statue that stands erect on the 12acre island, ask yourself what its called and what it stands for.

[Pooks]

Bravo Godfather, excellently said. I can't stand people that hate on a politician or a political way of thinking based on their ignorant KKK "white is right" way of thinking. I would go as far to say I know the REAL reason they hate Obama, and im pretty sure you could hazzard a good guess as well but I wont start a flame war.

By the way Rhino, before spouting "liberal" like it's a dirty word, go visit New York one day and take a look at the statue that stands erect on the 12acre island, ask yourself what its called and what it stands for.

Democrats got their ignorants too... just to point out.. Like he's old ..ageism. .stuff and etc...

Usually brainwashed kidz, that sadly trust their Teachers too much. Teachers got a vested interest in any Statist candidate.. especially a Democrat one. Most of these people aren't going to be able to truly think on their own, until they're in their late 20s or 30s.. and completely not dependent on other people to take care of them, and on their way as free thinking individuals. Than they can argue what makes more sense.. trickle down economics.. or wealth distribution, because the theory goes poor people spend more than wealthy people, who usually save more.. to stimulate the economy. Sadly both of these theories are also somewhat one sided.. same as how most candidates are statists instead of libertarian. Gold standard rarely gets mentioned as a serious way of doing business.

Ron Paul predicted the fall or Fannie and Freddi mac back in 2003.. just google Ron Paul 2003 Freddie mac.. he predicted the bail out to the dot.. he also said the bailout will not work in the long run.. he introduced a bill in 2003 to avoid the housing failure... CONGRESS IGNORED HIM.

he again brought up fannie and freddie earlier this year.. sending out another warning about their imminent failure.. and people are still not talking that much about the economy in the future.. these bailouts just add to the national debt..

same as bad loans added to the fannie n freddie debt..
eventually we're gonna get really Screwed. This economic slowdown is nothing.. just the tip of the iceberg, unless things change and fast.

[MuscleScience]

Democrats got their ignorants too... just to point out.. Like he's old ..ageism. .stuff and etc...

Usually brainwashed kidz, that sadly trust their Teachers too much. Teachers got a vested interest in any Statist candidate.. especially a Democrat one. Most of these people aren't going to be able to truly think on their own, until they're in their late 20s or 30s.. and completely not dependent on other people to take care of them, and on their way as free thinking individuals. Than they can argue what makes more sense.. trickle down economics.. or wealth distribution, because the theory goes poor people spend more than wealthy people, who usually save more.. to stimulate the economy. Sadly both of these theories are also somewhat one sided.. same as how most candidates are statists instead of libertarian. Gold standard rarely gets mentioned as a serious way of doing business.

Ron Paul predicted the fall or Fannie and Freddi mac back in 2003.. just google Ron Paul 2003 Freddie mac.. he predicted the bail out to the dot.. he also said the bailout will not work in the long run.. he introduced a bill in 2003 to avoid the housing failure... CONGRESS IGNORED HIM.

he again brought up fannie and freddie earlier this year.. sending out another warning about their imminent failure.. and people are still not talking that much about the economy in the future.. these bailouts just add to the national debt..

same as bad loans added to the fannie n freddie debt..
eventually we're gonna get really Screwed. This economic slowdown is nothing.. just the tip of the iceberg, unless things change and fast.

Though I do not agree with all of Ron Paul's ideas, I cant help but stop and listen every time he speaks. He is very intelligent and thinks outside the political norm. I love listening to his ideas because it really makes me stop and think about things. I am not totally in line with his foreign policy, but practically everything else he says i agree with 100%

[binder]

just as an FYI: according to the birth certificate he isn't black. He's milano (half black and half white). So one can't say he's anymore a "black" candidate over a "white" candidate.

[Pooks]

Though I do not agree with all of Ron Paul's ideas, I cant help but stop and listen every time he speaks. He is very intelligent and thinks outside the political norm. I love listening to his ideas because it really makes me stop and think about things. I am not totally in line with his foreign policy, but practically everything else he says i agree with 100%

Awesome... yeah Ron Paul is good for you, like milk. You can dominate any political conversation by just educating yourself on his philosophy.. just ask Godfather but a lot of this is also just basic economics MINUS opinionated stuff they add to the economic books but can't really prove.. PROPAGANDA.

.. and to think I used to think politics were boring.. lol

and unlike anarchist movements which are fun, but lack substance, Ron Paul movement got both..