LMAO @ the UK

[energizer bunny]

anyway this has been interesting.........i dont normaly get into these threads because everyone has strong views and plenty to say......and a debate could go on all week...

so ill bow out now......cheers.

[Panzerfaust]

Some many wrong things posted in this thread. I don't even know where to start.



wow that was very xenophobic and close-minded.

You don't realise that you're just as bad as the muslims who want to be treated differently. Both sides have to work for integration to happen.

The things mentioned in the articles you posted, true or not, are horrible. I'm pretty sure, though, that most muslims in the UK have no idea. So why get angry and start calling people scum and pleading for mass eradication? Dangerous way of thinking. Nazis had that very same idea about Jews. THEY'RE TAKING OVER! OH GOD SOMEONE STOP THEM! and I guess we all know how that story ended.

Ok, I would like to see how you would react for a family of Muslims to move into your house and start pushing their Sharia horseshit on you....oh I bet you would just love that shit wouldn't you?

This whole world is a ***** basket, minus maybe the Asian countries. Who let's foreign scum come in and literally change your way of life? lol

It's not as if these Muslims move to the UK and want to assimilate into English culture, no they want to move there and infest it with their bullshit ideology.

Big difference there, sorry you fail to see that.


The English are completely spineless and are enjoying taking it in the ass by these sand eating ****s.


I have no problem with their religion or how they treat each other, it is their religion and I respect that. Just keep it over there in that pile of ****ing sand in the Middle East.

[Panzerfaust]

Great thread, but its put a right downer on me.
im from england myself and where i live theres a big pakistani comunity. all what youve said is correct, personalyy i hate them there vile. bad attitudes and the most slimey things on earth, makes me sick, a local cafe stoped selling bacon sarnies other day because it was offending the fukkers. myself i think bnp will take over, in around 6years and when they do...let the fun begin

I rest my case!

Tons of that shit going on.

[Undercover]

Ok, I would like to see how you would react for a family of Muslims to move into your house and start pushing their Sharia horseshit on you....oh I bet you would just love that shit wouldn't you?

This whole world is a ***** basket, minus maybe the Asian countries. Who let's foreign scum come in and literally change your way of life? lol

It's not as if these Muslims move to the UK and want to assimilate into English culture, no they want to move there and infest it with their bullshit ideology.

Big difference there, sorry you fail to see that.


The English are completely spineless and are enjoying taking it in the ass by these sand eating ****s.


I have no problem with their religion or how they treat each other, it is their religion and I respect that. Just keep it over there in that pile of ****ing sand in the Middle East.

Thank you for proving my point. If you go over the thread, you will see what I mean. You really just need an excuse to hate people whose culture is different...especially Muslims, now that everybody is nearly over Jews and all. If that weren't true, your poor insults and mad generalizations wouldn't have been there. All point to extreme islamophobia btw.I especially liked the one about the ME being a pile of sand. Have ever even been there? What amazes me is that you're not even directly affected by this, and yet you're determined to think Muslims are planning world domination.

I will not argue with you. Arguing with intolerant bigots leads to nowhere. But good luck finding a way to deal with your anger, because European Muslims are going nowhere.

[dangerous dan]

Thank you for proving my point. If you go over the thread, you will see what I mean. You really just need an excuse to hate people whose culture is different...especially Muslims, now that everybody is nearly over Jews and all. If that weren't true, your poor insults and mad generalizations wouldn't have been there. All point to extreme islamophobia btw.I especially liked the one about the ME being a pile of sand. Have ever even been there? What amazes me is that you're not even directly affected by this, and yet you're determined to think Muslims are planning world domination.

I will not argue with you. Arguing with intolerant bigots leads to nowhere. But good luck finding a way to deal with your anger, because European Muslims are going nowhere.

your an idiot, we dont hate other peoples cultures, we just dont like them trying to force it on us, or change ours.... wake up!!!

[Undercover]

your an idiot, we dont hate other peoples cultures, we just dont like them trying to force it on us, or change ours.... wake up!!!

You're generalizing because you're islamophobic looking for excuses to hate Muslims.

Tell me, how many Muslims do you know? Nobody is trying to force beliefs on you. There are bigots in every culture, and you sir are one of them.

The Runnymede report identified eight perceptions related to Islamophobia:

1. Islam is seen as a monolithic bloc, static and unresponsive to change.
2. It is seen as separate and "other." It does not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them.
3. It is seen as inferior to the West. It is seen as barbaric, irrational, primitive, and sexist.
4. It is seen as violent, aggressive, threatening, supportive of terrorism, and engaged in a clash of civilizations.
5. It is seen as a political ideology, used for political or military advantage.
6. Criticisms made of "the West" by Muslims are rejected out of hand.
7. Hostility towards Islam is used to justify discriminatory practices towards Muslims and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream society.
8. Anti-Muslim hostility is seen as natural and normal

Yup, that pretty much covers you both (and a few other idiots) that posted in this thread.

[thegodfather]

You're generalizing because you're islamophobic looking for excuses to hate Muslims.

Tell me, how many Muslims do you know? Nobody is trying to force beliefs on you. There are bigots in every culture, and you sir are one of them.



Yup, that pretty much covers you both (and a few other idiots) that posted in this thread.

So if they had not used derrogatory remarks then they would not be guilty of 'islamophobia'. That's a funny word, sounds like something liberals invented. Kinda like the neo-cons that invented "Islamofascistextremism." That's another bullshit word.

I don't see anything wrong with saying that immigrant cultures should assimilate into the culture of the land they're living in. The most notable aggravation would be those that fail to learn the language. I certainly don't think Americans should ever have to "Push 1 for English." There was in fact a prominent article about how Mexican immigrants are vehemently against assimilating as a whole. I am just weary of labeling people as you have done above, because often it turns into "I'm calling you a name because I dont agree with your politics/position/policy." For instance, Neo-cons calling people who disagree with foreign wars "unamerican," and liberals labeling people who oppose Barack Obama as President as "racists & bigots."

I personally don't like to use derogatory remarks when engaging in an argument, it makes the argument much less credible. However, there is certainly documented evidence of immigrant cultures resisting assimilation in their new home country, and that is definitely a problem.

[D7M]

Good post GodFather.

Undercover....are you surreptitiously BuffedGuy? He used to throw around that Islmaphobe crap all the time, too.

[Flagg]

Whoever Undercover is, I surely would like to know who is in that avy of his. Hypnotic..

[Matt]

There should be some kind of exam that these people should sit after they have been in our country for a set period of time, it should be and english speaking exam..

Im sick to death of these people making no effort to learn our language and while i welcome them over here they must learn our ways and adapt to them...

[Undercover]

So if they had not used derrogatory remarks then they would not be guilty of 'islamophobia'. That's a funny word, sounds like something liberals invented. Kinda like the neo-cons that invented "Islamofascistextremism." That's another bullshit word.

I don't see anything wrong with saying that immigrant cultures should assimilate into the culture of the land they're living in. The most notable aggravation would be those that fail to learn the language. I certainly don't think Americans should ever have to "Push 1 for English." There was in fact a prominent article about how Mexican immigrants are vehemently against assimilating as a whole. I am just weary of labeling people as you have done above, because often it turns into "I'm calling you a name because I dont agree with your politics/position/policy." For instance, Neo-cons calling people who disagree with foreign wars "unamerican," and liberals labeling people who oppose Barack Obama as President as "racists & bigots."

I personally don't like to use derogatory remarks when engaging in an argument, it makes the argument much less credible. However, there is certainly documented evidence of immigrant cultures resisting assimilation in their new home country, and that is definitely a problem.

Perceptions of Islamophobia were in my last post (they don't include overuse of petty insults).

Islamophobia is just a newly coined term for islamic culture-specific xenophobia. Just because they have a term for it now doesn't mean it's 'those damn liberals' who did it, and it certainly doesn't make it any less real..xenophobia isn't made up. So, I don't see why you're pissed with me using the term.

For the second bolded part, you have to read what I said in the thread. Never claimed immigrants shouldn't adapt, actually I said the exact opposite and made some pretty good points that they seemed to ignore.

I never doubted certain immigrants have trouble integrating; it's only natural. Generalizations and 'demonization' of immigrants is not helping though. I don't know of any Muslim that cringes when he heards the word 'pig'.

Degratory remarks? So you think someone who supports the BNP and thinks all immigrants should be eradicated isn't a bigot? If you think I used the word 'bigot' to strengthen my argument, you're way off. Do me a favor and read my thread. I only said I wouldn't argue anymore because I kept getting the same bigotry over and over. That is, after all, the definition of a bigot.

Good post GodFather.

Undercover....are you surreptitiously BuffedGuy? He used to throw around that Islmaphobe crap all the time, too.

No, don't know the guy.

Would you be happy if I start using "islam-specific xenophobia" instead? You guys are funny.

[Undercover]

Whoever Undercover is, I surely would like to know who is in that avy of his. Hypnotic..

That, my friend, is Regina Spektor aka musical songwriting genius.

[Flagg]

That, my friend, is Regina Spektor aka musical songwriting genius.

She's beautiful. Im just listening to a song of hers now. She reminds me of Tori Amos.

[Panzerfaust]

Thank you for proving my point. If you go over the thread, you will see what I mean. You really just need an excuse to hate people whose culture is different...especially Muslims, now that everybody is nearly over Jews and all. If that weren't true, your poor insults and mad generalizations wouldn't have been there. All point to extreme islamophobia btw.I especially liked the one about the ME being a pile of sand. Have ever even been there? What amazes me is that you're not even directly affected by this, and yet you're determined to think Muslims are planning world domination.

I will not argue with you. Arguing with intolerant bigots leads to nowhere. But good luck finding a way to deal with your anger, because European Muslims are going nowhere.

Nope, I am not arguing with anyone let alone you. You were never considered someone with enough common sense to communicate with. Move along sheep!

[Panzerfaust]

your an idiot, we dont hate other peoples cultures, we just dont like them trying to force it on us, or change ours.... wake up!!!

Don't waste your breath, these types are so blind they cannot even begin to comprehend what we are truly trying to say so they stick to the "you hate an entire race", "racist" bla bla bla

Sure, I use harsh words but these are harsh times and some asses need kicked. It's not a pretty job but someone certainly needs to do it and do it quickly and thoroughly.

[Undercover]

That, my friend, is Regina Spektor aka musical songwriting genius.
She's beautiful. Im just listening to a song of hers now. She reminds me of Tori Amos.
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You'd probably find the more commercial ones on youtube, but really some of her songs are pure GENIUS.

like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ITvucG6hjM

[Flagg]

Getting back on topic, im beginning to lose faith in human society in general.

Take this thread for example. When we're not bickering about "the alien", we're bickering about each other. Yeah, when there isn't a foreigner to argue with, we just argue with the next better thing...ourselves.

We are totally incapable of working together for the good of all and it boils down to "Im right, you're wrong so **** off" attitude and everyone in this thread has been guilty of it.

[Undercover]

I think we should all just agree that I'm right and everybody else is wrong.

[Flagg]

You'd probably find the more commercial ones on youtube, but really some of her songs are pure GENIUS.

like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ITvucG6hjM

Im really digging her stuff. Cant believe ive never encountered her before. AND she's absolutely stunning! Win win.

[Panzerfaust]

Getting back on topic, im beginning to lose faith in human society in general.

Take this thread for example. When we're not bickering about "the alien", we're bickering about each other. Yeah, when there isn't a foreigner to argue with, we just argue with the next better thing...ourselves.

We are totally incapable of working together for the good of all and it boils down to "Im right, you're wrong so **** off" attitude and everyone in this thread has been guilty of it.

I'm only against filthy scum mother****ers who invade a land and expect that land to bow to their ways. **** that!

[Flagg]

I'm only against filthy scum mother****ers who invade a land and expect that land to bow to their ways. **** that!

Yeah, like the US and the UK does in the Middle East.

We're all guilty of the same crimes on this planet, regardless of what colour our skin is or what superstition is the gospel.

[Undercover]

I bet muriloninja is pro-israel. That would be really funny.

Immigrants are called immigrants for a reason. They never invaded the land they're in.

[Flagg]

I bet muriloninja is pro-israel. That would be really funny.

Immigrants are called immigrants for a reason. They never invaded the land they're in.

Nah he's not. You'll find he hates everyone, the ole ray of sunshine that he is.

[Undercover]

Yeah, like the US and the UK does in the Middle East.

We're all guilty of the same crimes on this planet, regardless of what colour our skin is or what superstition is the gospel.

Flagg stop being so damn nice :P. You come off as a well-rounded guy. I'm sure you don't think immigrants are '"invaders" planning to take over Europe. Thoughts like that are ridiculous. We need to be discouraging bigots not encouraging them.

To muriloninja: (this is me being really nice and summarizing some of the things i said before in this thread)

First, it's not arguing when your source of info is a newspaper that makes up stories to sell and the BNP. Nobody in their right mind would take those sources seriously.

Second, you never once provided a logical solution to integration problems. Holocaust nr.2? Ain't gunna happen. You only said some people need their asses kicked. Well, why don't you kick the asses of the people who change the laws, and the local cafes that sell your freedom for more Muslim customers and actually make a difference? Surely, they are more at fault? But no, instead you target your anger towards what's different...easy scapegoats..that's what I meant when I said you're xenophobic.

You're generalizing that every Muslim immigrant is a bigot that wants to force his beliefs on Western culture. That is simply NOT the case. That's how you're a bigot. You're not listening to anything I have to say. You're very much convinced that immigrants are evil and need to be wiped off the face of Europe.

If you want to explain how all Muslim immigrants are innately evil, I'd be happy to listen.

[MuscleScience]

So if they had not used derrogatory remarks then they would not be guilty of 'islamophobia'. That's a funny word, sounds like something liberals invented. Kinda like the neo-cons that invented "Islamofascistextremism." That's another bullshit word.

I don't see anything wrong with saying that immigrant cultures should assimilate into the culture of the land they're living in. The most notable aggravation would be those that fail to learn the language. I certainly don't think Americans should ever have to "Push 1 for English." There was in fact a prominent article about how Mexican immigrants are vehemently against assimilating as a whole. I am just weary of labeling people as you have done above, because often it turns into "I'm calling you a name because I dont agree with your politics/position/policy." For instance, Neo-cons calling people who disagree with foreign wars "unamerican," and liberals labeling people who oppose Barack Obama as President as "racists & bigots."

I personally don't like to use derogatory remarks when engaging in an argument, it makes the argument much less credible. However, there is certainly documented evidence of immigrant cultures resisting assimilation in their new home country, and that is definitely a problem.

Yeah look at the white immigrants that the Mexican Government let move freely and without restrictions into Texas. That didnt turn out so well for Mexico, prime example of what can happens if a new population does not assimilate.

[Panzerfaust]

Yeah, like the US and the UK does in the Middle East.
We're all guilty of the same crimes on this planet, regardless of what colour our skin is or what superstition is the gospel.

Yeah, no shit! I hear you, this American Empire must end...history already shows us that it will end as no Empire has ever lasted. America is nothing more than the modern day Rome.

We should never have invaded the Middle East, that is their land and culture and they can respectfully have it.

[dangerous dan]

undercover on a erlier post u asked how many muslims i no....ino thousands. I somtimes nip in thee odd shop in an asian comunity for some cigs ....they look at me as if im shit, find it funny but at the same time find it disgustin, and do you not think they all walk around white bastardd this white bastard that??? they think they rule the place....well its not going to fly, this contry was build be good people, then filth come over just to sponge and try and change how we live, well ffuk thattttt. if i had my own way the lot would be out, there not doing british people any favours....we have people fighting for homes ect, because all the asians are geting 1st choice its disgusting....

[dangerous dan]

not so long ago...few months back, a muslim worked in a supermarket...he was made move alcohol around ect, he quit is job and tried suing ......whats all that about then????

[Matt]

I was in Bradford last week at this dudes house (black guy) and hung up was a t-shirt with a green union jack, in the middle of it it said Britistan. He said all the asians are wearing them and they believe that one day this country will be theirs. I would normaly laugh at this but to be honest, its looking more and more like thats exactly whats happening...

[dangerous dan]

you no what, i think its vile. its even worse when some muppit (undercover) is making out were talking shit, telling you that^^^ what 007s just said, is true they think this will be theres soon, its disgusting. stupid were at war with these contries iraq ect, and half of them are walking our streets!!! i wish they would all just fuk straight off