This will be a setback for gun owners:

[TITANIUM]

America. The place that settlers from Britain and Europe came to, to form a republic. And then you filled the void when the British Empire came to an end and became the most powerful nation in the world. However what is the real difference between Britain and America today? Both have Media propaganda, both go to other countries to sieze the resources there, both have a corrupt two way party system so ingrained into society that people cant look beyond to the third or fourth choice and both are intent on The West turning the world into one giant Big Brother.

I think Democracy is failing. It's being abused now, freedom to do what you want should not mean taking what you want, when you want, believing there is an infinite amount of resources to take.

I really don't know what alternatives there is now. Society is beginning to get beyond the point of no return.

What you said in bold sort of makes sense. But having a revolution today I just couldn't see working. That's not to say I wouldn't try. I'd rather try than accept things the way they are, but sometimes I think if 98% of the population just vanished over night, that'd be a good ways to starting afresh. Yeah that sounds radical but I think Society is beginning to strain under its own weight.

Nothing wrong with a revolution.

And don't think that we have evolved beyond that point.

This world we live in has something in common with the Universe around us.

Huge stars, called red giants, end up collapsing under it's own gravity.

After it has depleted its resources of fuel to burn.

It goes "super nova", and destroys everything around it.

Then punches a hole in space,a black hole.

Nothing escapes, light, planets, even time itself.

Sound like anything familiar?

I'm on a tangent, I think. But you get the idea.

[Flagg]

Nothing wrong with a revaluation.

And don't think that we have evolved beyond that point.

This world we live in has something in common with the Universe around us.

Huge stars, called red giants, end up collapsing under it's own gravity.

After it has depleted its resources of fuel to burn.

It goes "super nova", and destroys everything around it.

Then punches a hole in space,a black hole.

Nothing escapes, light, planets, even time itself.

Sound like anything familiar?

I'm on a tangent, I think. But you get the idea.

I know what you mean but the reason I dont think a revolution would work today is simply because of progressions in the military. If the Government wanted to take America by force, what the hell could anyone do against a tank or being bombed from altitude? I dont want to sound like a defeatist but do you not sometimes wonder why so much money is invested in the military? Prehaps to protect America from herself.

[Flagg]

The average cycle of the world's democracys is 200yrs.

"From bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to apathy;
from apathy to dependence;
from dependency back again into bondage."

Dr. Alexander Tytler

We're definitely in the "selfishness to apathy" stage now. Soon that will turn to dependence. I like that piece.

[TITANIUM]

America. The place that settlers from Britain and Europe came to, to form a republic. And then you filled the void when the British Empire came to an end and became the most powerful nation in the world. However what is the real difference between Britain and America today? Both have Media propaganda, both go to other countries to sieze the resources there, both have a corrupt two way party system so ingrained into society that people cant look beyond to the third or fourth choice and both are intent on The West turning the world into one giant Big Brother.

I think Democracy is failing. It's being abused now, freedom to do what you want should not mean taking what you want, when you want, believing there is an infinite amount of resources to take.

I really don't know what alternatives there is now. Society is beginning to get beyond the point of no return.

What you said in bold sort of makes sense. But having a revolution today I just couldn't see working. That's not to say I wouldn't try. I'd rather try than accept things the way they are, but sometimes I think if 98% of the population just vanished over night, that'd be a good ways to starting afresh. Yeah that sounds radical but I think Society is beginning to strain under its own weight.

If we learn from our own past, we see that history always repeats it self.

So, put on your crash helmets and seat belts, because this ride is coming to a explosive ending.

You are seeing history in the making.

Your seeing the United States fall from the pinnacle of world power, to just another fallen country.

It was bound to happen.

Just a matter of time.

[bass]

If we learn from our own past, we see that history always repeats it self.

So, put on your crash helmets and seat belts, because this ride is coming to a explosive ending.

You are seeing history in the making.

Your seeing the United States fall from the pinnacle of world power, to just another fallen country.

It was bound to happen.

Just a matter of time.

i am afraid you are right bro, i tell my kids the same about how we keep repeating our history. it is sad that our country will be the youngest supper power. but there is hope, today i was listing to the radio and a poll showed that there are more conservatives (not dems and rep) than Liberals, and the reason was stated because they are seeing how today's government is taking their freedom away so quickly...

BTW, I have nothing against Liberals, I just feel sorry for them for giving their freedom away.

[TITANIUM]

The average cycle of the world's democracys is 200yrs.

"From bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to apathy;
from apathy to dependence;
from dependency back again into bondage."

Dr. Alexander Tytler

True to the letter.

[bass]

The average cycle of the world's democracys is 200yrs.

"From bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to apathy;
from apathy to dependence;
from dependency back again into bondage."

Dr. Alexander Tytler

Simply Brilliant...

[BgMc31]

i am afraid you are right bro, i tell my kids the same about how we keep repeating our history. it is sad that our country will be the youngest supper power. but there is hope, today i was listing to the radio and a poll showed that there are more conservatives (not dems and rep) than Liberals, and the reason was stated because they are seeing how today's government is taking their freedom away so quickly...

BTW, I have nothing against Liberals, I just feel sorry for them for giving their freedom away.

This has always been the case. Most people are financially conservative and socially liberal. Being called a liberal carries a negative stigma. It's a bad word to be called a liberal. This is nothing new.

[TITANIUM]

This has always been the case. Most people are financially conservative and socially liberal. Being called a liberal carries a negative stigma. It's a bad word to be called a liberal. This is nothing new.

True!

See we can agree sometimes.

[mho]

We're definitely in the "selfishness to apathy" stage now. Soon that will turn to dependence. I like that piece.

I think we're already transitioning into the dependence stage.