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    GOAL to File Amicus Brief in Storage Case

    You know the way I feel towards the subject. But I thought I would share the link with you.The NRA forwards these subjects to me all the time. I find them fascinating reading, and research accordingly.Feel free to comment, as I know there are some extremely intelligent members here that have some amazing insight on politics.

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    in the past several years many states even liberal states have been siding with the rights of law abiding citizens to arm themselves and their properties, the trend is towards a may carry type of law since the state has time after time demonstrated and litigated that it is not responsible for the safety of the individual.

    case in point.. 5 yrs ago Minnesota attached to a DNR bill a concealed carry permit that would require the state to prove the person not capable of owning or carrying a gun. the law at the time was set that the sheriff in each county had personal discretion as to who got the permit and who did not..this was an old law that presumed that the sheriff would have personal information on most people in his county which is ridiculous given that many counties had millions of people in them.

    The bill was passed but challenged in the supreme court. The court struck down that portion making all of the permits void. 6 months later, the state passed a personal protection act (stand alone) with no attachments to it that allowed private lawful citizens to prove compotency and pay the fee of coarse. that was 3 yrs ago..

    since then, there has been 0 cases where a permitted person has been in a shooting incident. there is a case where the man was holding a permit, but he was not in possession of a weapon, he was in his home and someone was in the process of stealing his car, (he was in the yard when he discovered them) he returned to his home, emerged with a shotgun and shot out he back window as they left.. Now, you have to remember the current law allows for justified shooting of someone that has stolen your property, like as in you see them leaving your house with your TV and you shot them in the yard... yea that's how we roll..

    So the trend is towards the protection and rights of the citizen to protect them selves and their property.

    Minnesota is a very liberal and democratically controlled state, so that shows you the direction that many are going towards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    in the past several years many states even liberal states have been siding with the rights of law abiding citizens to arm themselves and their properties, the trend is towards a may carry type of law since the state has time after time demonstrated and litigated that it is not responsible for the safety of the individual.

    case in point.. 5 yrs ago Minnesota attached to a DNR bill a concealed carry permit that would require the state to prove the person not capable of owning or carrying a gun. the law at the time was set that the sheriff in each county had personal discretion as to who got the permit and who did not..this was an old law that presumed that the sheriff would have personal information on most people in his county which is ridiculous given that many counties had millions of people in them.

    The bill was passed but challenged in the supreme court. The court struck down that portion making all of the permits void. 6 months later, the state passed a personal protection act (stand alone) with no attachments to it that allowed private lawful citizens to prove compotency and pay the fee of coarse. that was 3 yrs ago..

    since then, there has been 0 cases where a permitted person has been in a shooting incident. there is a case where the man was holding a permit, but he was not in possession of a weapon, he was in his home and someone was in the process of stealing his car, (he was in the yard when he discovered them) he returned to his home, emerged with a shotgun and shot out he back window as they left.. Now, you have to remember the current law allows for justified shooting of someone that has stolen your property, like as in you see them leaving your house with your TV and you shot them in the yard... yea that's how we roll..

    So the trend is towards the protection and rights of the citizen to protect them selves and their property.

    Minnesota is a very liberal and democratically controlled state, so that shows you the direction that many are going towards.


    I think that all states should have a "shall issue" mentality towards carrying concealed.

    What this means is that , if you do not have a felony arrest or domestic violence charge, you should be given the license.

    And also state reciprocity gun laws , that would entail each state to recognize other states licenses.

    Basically, when you go through NICS, your good to go.

    It should end there.

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    Actually right now there are 28 states that allow a person to "open carry" a firearm. As long as the handgun is exposed (in a holster, on your hip, open to see) you can carry it almost anywhere. Of course if you enter private property (as shopping center, movie theater, restaurant) management can ask you to leave, but your actions are not illegal. Check it out on--open carry.org.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCTOBER-2009 View Post
    Actually right now there are 28 states that allow a person to "open carry" a firearm. As long as the handgun is exposed (in a holster, on your hip, open to see) you can carry it almost anywhere. Of course if you enter private property (as shopping center, movie theater, restaurant) management can ask you to leave, but your actions are not illegal. Check it out on--open carry.org.
    Yes, That web sight is quite informative with firearms laws in general.

    I'll get this post rolling with some momentum now.

    I think that you should be able to carry on state campuses.

    As with Virginia Tech incident.

    If someone was armed, at least they would have stood a chance.

    I know this fvck nut passed the NICS check, as it pertains to being mentally defective.

    But, that was quickly rectified.Now it does contain all your mental health information now.

    (Actually, his was supposed to have been reported, the court didn't send it to NICS).

    This does not apply to your own personal psychiatrist, that most people see at some point in there lives.

    Just when the court has deemed you mentally defective.

    Which is how the guy slipped through the cracks.

    I would have resolved that incident very quickly, if it was poised on myself.

    But, I know that most people do not possess that military background.

    But, they do make you go through a hand gun training course, as a civilian.

    This is for your state license.

    So, I am for basically for open carry everywhere, except state and federal institutions.

    And as far as locking your guns up in your own home?

    Ridiculous. It is locked up.Unless you leave your doors unlocked when your not home.

    If you can't get access to it, what good is it?

    Rule that is taught in law enforcement:

    2 to 5 feet.
    2 to 5 shots.
    2 to 5 seconds.

    That's it, and it's over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITANIUM View Post

    I think that you should be able to carry on state campuses.

    As with Virginia Tech incident.

    If someone was armed, at least they would have stood a chance.
    I totally argree! They call restrictions on CCW permits (colleges, school, arenas) safe zones. However, evidence has shown that these are nothing but death zones for those stuck in these facilities without firearm protection. How many more Americans will die in schools because people can't arm themselves.

    Remember, "MORE GUNS, LESS CRIME"

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCTOBER-2009 View Post
    I totally argree! They call restrictions on CCW permits (colleges, school, arenas) safe zones. However, evidence has shown that these are nothing but death zones for those stuck in these facilities without firearm protection. How many more Americans will die in schools because people can't arm themselves.

    Remember, "MORE GUNS, LESS CRIME"
    It's true.

    Statistically also.

    States that support concealed carry laws have less crime.

    Not knowing who is armed is a great deterrent in itself.

    I support capitol punishment also.

    Another great deterrent.

    The government should really hold the criminal accountable for what they do, and stop making laws that punish the law abiding sector .

    Only the lawful obey laws anyways....

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