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    obama what a joke


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    anything with proof of anything. Not rederick

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    I remember when he got in power and loads of people on here said he'd be assassinated in months.....
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    i think the death penalty would still apply

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    My opinion is that Barack Obama's election has been so exaggerated. Change didn't come and won't come. Lobbyists will still have their way with anyone who steps into the white house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    I remember when he got in power and loads of people on here said he'd be assassinated in months.....
    I think there have been attempts covered up at least some point between the race and now. People in America are moronic enough to do that.

    I am personally not happy at what he has done and not keeping up his end of the bargian...great speaker though...kinda like Hitler no?

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    If I was still on active duty I would refuse to re-up on my contract while he was president. As a soldier in the military you should support your commander-in-chief. I despise this joke of a president.

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    USA = joke

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    As soon as I found out he would fight the republicans on cutting all financial add-ons to bills. I was done. Not that I voted for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zabster151 View Post
    I hate when people talk about presidents or politics and act like they know whats happening in our government. I can assure you that you and 98% of the rest of the population truly know nothing about what happens in politics, nor do you know about the hundreds of new laws that are passed every single day.

    I also hate when people talk about presidents as if they make all the laws. This isn't a communist country, the president can't just pass laws because he feels they are necessary. In fact, he can't even pass any law if he just feels like it. Most of every single law that is passed is created and passed by the judicial system and they would have been passed regardless who was president. If you're going to be mad at someone be mad at the judiciary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calstate23 View Post
    I hate when people talk about presidents or politics and act like they know whats happening in our government. I can assure you that you and 98% of the rest of the population truly know nothing about what happens in politics, nor do you know about the hundreds of new laws that are passed every single day.

    I also hate when people talk about presidents as if they make all the laws. This isn't a communist country, the president can't just pass laws because he feels they are necessary. In fact, he can't even pass any law if he just feels like it. Most of every single law that is passed is created and passed by the judicial system and they would have been passed regardless who was president. If you're going to be mad at someone be mad at the judiciary.
    Nice post. Most people don't like politicians, but often like to pass the blame on to the guy in charge for any personal woes in their life. Someone loses a job, and rather than wonder if it was because they weren't performing well enough, it's easier to blame it on whoever is running the country. And so on.

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    I believe Obama is doing a pretty good job considering what was thrown at his feet. The fact that he is willing to do something that is good for the country even though he knows it will destroy what people (even his own party) think of him is great. We need leaders like this. Leaders like these are the ones who are usually assassinated. His own party hates him, Republicans hate him, much of the US hates him; he is doing what is best and taking a lot of shit for it. everyone can sit back and say how things would be perfect if_____. But the fact is he is doing what he can and the public doesn't know what goes on behind closed doors so we can't say much about what is or isn't "his" fault. His own party hates him, the other party hates him, America hates him, so long to any political gains from pulling the stunts he has, so what is he doing? Maybe, just maybe, we have a president who is fighting for the people...

    I think there are some good signs. It appears that he will be one of those presidents who goes down in history as being great, but we don't realize it at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twist View Post
    I believe Obama is doing a pretty good job considering what was thrown at his feet. The fact that he is willing to do something that is good for the country even though he knows it will destroy what people (even his own party) think of him is great. We need leaders like this. Leaders like these are the ones who are usually assassinated. His own party hates him, Republicans hate him, much of the US hates him; he is doing what is best and taking a lot of shit for it. everyone can sit back and say how things would be perfect if_____. But the fact is he is doing what he can and the public doesn't know what goes on behind closed doors so we can't say much about what is or isn't "his" fault. His own party hates him, the other party hates him, America hates him, so long to any political gains from pulling the stunts he has, so what is he doing? Maybe, just maybe, we have a president who is fighting for the people...

    I think there are some good signs. It appears that he will be one of those presidents who goes down in history as being great, but we don't realize it at the time.
    Your speech basically looks like his speech after he folded on the tax cuts.

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    ^^LOL

    Dude obama sucks...

    He hasn't done shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolStarta View Post
    Your speech basically looks like his speech after he folded on the tax cuts.
    Folded how? Compromised. I don't see a way for him to fight the republicans and win on this. His speech makes sense, its true. Either everyone is screwed or the wealthy benefit. That's how it always is.

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    i think ppl should pay the SAME PERCENTAGE...that makes it fair....if you make more money you pay more but not more percentage

    just my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twist View Post
    Folded how? Compromised. I don't see a way for him to fight the republicans and win on this. His speech makes sense, its true. Either everyone is screwed or the wealthy benefit. That's how it always is.
    right lets take from my parents and grandparents for there work and give to dumbasses who didn't get a degree or are using up the 99weeks of unemployment because they cant find a job comparable to their last so they suck us dry.

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    I moved to Ireland the week before he was inaugurated.. As far as I am concerned it is not Obama, it is the entire American system... The military is way too large.. no other country in the world spends 35% of their tax income on the military.. and the US would not hae to if they just stopped pissing on everyone's parade.. and stopped backing Israel.. I still do not see how americans complain about healthcare for paeople and then have no problem when they see that three times the cost of universal healthcare is spent on the military every year.. I have a lot of freinds in the military and am in no means anti military.. but i think that too much money is spent in that department..America lives in fear. The whole government was created with Checks and Balances that prevent anything from getting done effectively.. and with the way congress can pick its own districts make them way too comfortable. Congress whould be demolished entirely.. destroy the senate too.. waste of time and money.. Democracy is bullshit and does not work. .the Greeks figured that out 3000 years ago.. And the US version of democaracy is a joke when you take into consideration the rate of growth of the poor and how completley backwards people are in some of the run down neighborhoods of Oakland, Detroit, Harlem.. etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolStarta View Post
    right lets take from my parents and grandparents for there work and give to dumbasses who didn't get a degree or are using up the 99weeks of unemployment because they cant find a job comparable to their last so they suck us dry.
    Giving tax cuts to those unemployed stimulates our economy so much more than tax cuts for the rich. But the people who are sucking us (the young working class) dry are
    1. the elite
    2. the retired
    3. our government

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    Just a few things obama has done for you nay sayers

    1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
    2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
    3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
    4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
    5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
    6 Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
    7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
    8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
    9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
    10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
    11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
    12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
    13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
    14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
    15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
    16. New federal funding for science and research labs
    17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
    18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
    19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
    20. New funds for school construction
    21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
    22. US Auto industry rescue plan
    23. Housing rescue plan
    24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
    25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
    26. US financial and banking rescue plan
    27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
    28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
    29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
    30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
    31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
    32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
    33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
    34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
    35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
    36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
    37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
    38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
    39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
    40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
    41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
    42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
    43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
    44. Expanding vaccination programs
    45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
    46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
    47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
    48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
    49.. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
    50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
    51. Lower drug costs for seniors
    52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
    53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
    54. Improved housing for military personnel
    55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
    56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
    57 Increasing student loans
    58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program
    59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
    60. Established a new cyber security office
    61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
    62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
    63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
    64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
    65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
    66. Improving benefits for veterans
    67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
    68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
    69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
    70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
    71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
    72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
    73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
    74. Making more loans available to small businesses
    75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
    76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
    77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
    78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
    79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
    80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
    81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
    82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
    83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
    84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
    85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
    86. Held first Seder in White House
    87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
    88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
    89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
    90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

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    I believe he has helped and done more for US Soldiers like myself and you than any president has since Reagan

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    Obama, like Bush, fails to protect America from the flood of illegal immigrants. Increased crime, disease, and decay are the
    costs we pay. Also consider that in 2009 feds "welcomed" 1.1 million legal immigrants. (85% third-worlders) Right in the middle of a recession.
    Bottam line, he should be tried for treason. Keep your powder dry, open season ahead on the southern border.

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    Yea, Ive seen that post before, Id hardly count 90% of those as accomplishments, and twist I dont know what tax cuts to the unemployed you're referring too.

    89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
    90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

    so?

    24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan

    Thats not a victory.

    37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
    38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales

    Hybrids lose value much faster than other cars, while cash for clunkers hurt the used car market and put thousands of cars into junk yards before there due, while putting already broke people in more debt with these "incentives.

    4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq

    and sent them to afghan

    69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco

    okay

    78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000

    okay aides make 100k and sentors make 175k

    . My point is its all in how you look at it, i'd give maybe 10 things on that list a nod of improvment, none of which are really national improvements like giving a latina a judicial position or getting people released from north korea.

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    yep these are garbage some ok, allot are fake lies or help goverment or immigrants and now really poor us citizens fall into some categories. not good at all

    supplementing a bad economy.

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