Ron Paul gets so down played its not even funny...

[zabster151]

so the media is constantly trying to make Ron Paul look bad. with lying about if he wins a state or not, or weather he had any supporters show up for him.delegate's ect. its such a joke how the news cant just cover whats going on. instead the constantly try to tell people how to think. Or what to think about a cretin situation. instead of just reporting whats really going on."TRUTH IS SO DANGEROUS" i love it....

[zabster151]

[zabster151]

115 views and 1 Vote.. nice maybe there still stuck in obamaland..

[jasc]

3 now... I'm 100% in favor of Ron Paul.. our country is in need of a big "change" n I think he is it.. Unfortunately there are not enough open-minded Americans who are willing to take any "risk". We've been dealing with these same Asskissing, no sac, career crooks.. I mean politicians for too long. It's obviously not working but everyones afraid to stray from what they think is the "safe bet". Everyone cries about change n the economy n unemployment, then they file in to the voting booths n vote for whoever can lie good enough to make the sheep feel comfortable.

[dumb_aas]

I agree completely. The media can make it very difficult to know and understand the different candidates. Ron Paul, I think, could still have some steam in his engine in the political world even after the election season simply because I've seen his ability to reach the young voters

[zabster151]

[BigBadBob]

Ron Paul Revolution 2112 !!!!

[AXx]

RON PAUL fan here too.

[SG2009]

Ron Paul should think of retirement like Jon McCain

[Persistence2012]

I will profess that I was quite shocked a significant population of the military was supporting him.

Its unfortunate he wasn't able to run against Obama, because to rather frank, I do believe he could of beaten Obama. But of course if he changed a thing or two of his campaign policies and would instead implement them during his presidency.

[Times Roman]

I embrace most of the concepts of the Libertarian Party.

I think everyone should own a gun (notice i didn't say "must"?)
I think our government is overbloated and needs a strict diet
I disagree that money should be take from me and given to others that haven't earned it. (I do make a few exceptions)
I think the tax code needs a complete revamp and most of the loop holes taken out
I believe in a STRICT seperation of church and state, (something the republican party seems to have forgotten), and that religion has no place in politics.
I believe in a woman's right to choose (abortion) - (but i personally discourage abortion in all but the most extreme cases)
I believe a person should not be able to hold political office permenantly, regardless the position, and should look at politics like a part time job in all but the highest positions.
I believe we should totally revamp the military and have a combined armed force (no more army/nave/marines/airforce) to improve the economics and the focus of the military
I believe that "WE THE PEOPLE" are smarter than the government in most situations
I believe that we should ditch the electoral system and go to a straight majority vote.

just a few of my political beliefs.....

[Persistence2012]

To be honest, I'd have to call you out on that one Roman.

Specifically because that isn't an individual set of political beliefs, its a universal set of political beliefs and should be implemented and mandated as such.

Similar to the World Geneva Convention of Human Rights, I do believe that alot of people share similar set of political beliefs, and those idioms that you elaborated above fits in virtually everyone's set.

[Coolhand5599]

All who oppose the demacrats are made to look bad in the media. America is not ready for Ron Paul YET. He is correct about most things and would be the best choice. He is to honest, to get elected you must be right or left of center then move to where you want. And he will not do that..

Get behind Romney! We may not know what we will get with him, but we do know what we will get from Obama. And that scares the hell out of me. This is not the year for a protest vote. Either Romney or Obama will win, no one else has a chance.

[Persistence2012]

Romney will be Bush 3.0, for Obama wasn't that bad, he was like version Bush 1.5.

The problem is that the country in all reality isn't run by one single person, the president. There are several ministers that run each department, and Obama didn't the time or the political will to find new and different ones that didn't share the Bush doctrine.

Im sure that he'l improve in the next term.

[Times Roman]

I embrace most of the concepts of the Libertarian Party.

I think everyone should own a gun (notice i didn't say "must"?)
I think our government is overbloated and needs a strict diet
I disagree that money should be take from me and given to others that haven't earned it. (I do make a few exceptions)
I think the tax code needs a complete revamp and most of the loop holes taken out
I believe in a STRICT seperation of church and state, (something the republican party seems to have forgotten), and that religion has no place in politics.
I believe in a woman's right to choose (abortion) - (but i personally discourage abortion in all but the most extreme cases)
I believe a person should not be able to hold political office permenantly, regardless the position, and should look at politics like a part time job in all but the highest positions.
I believe we should totally revamp the military and have a combined armed force (no more army/nave/marines/airforce) to improve the economics and the focus of the military
I believe that "WE THE PEOPLE" are smarter than the government in most situations
I believe that we should ditch the electoral system and go to a straight majority vote.

just a few of my political beliefs.....

To be honest, I'd have to call you out on that one Roman. Specifically because that isn't an individual set of political beliefs, its a universal set of political beliefs and should be implemented and mandated as such.

Similar to the World Geneva Convention of Human Rights, I do believe that alot of people share similar set of political beliefs, and those idioms that you elaborated above fits in virtually everyone's set.

no problem, but here's my rebuttal:

however, there are many in America that feel we should not have access to guns. I would get in some long and frustrating conversations with "huggers" that feel just as strongly as I, but on the opposing side.

regarding transfer payments (3rd item down). there are many that feel it is our civic duty to help out those less fortunate than ourselves. I agree with this to a certain extent. However, where i disagree is that it shouldn't be FORCED on me. It should be a decision, not a requirement.

5th one down, seperation of church and state. I said STRICT seperation. No more "in god we trust", or any reference to a supreme being. no more putting your hand on the bible and being sworn in. No more "so help me god". No more evangelicals running the Republican party, who think they know better than the pregnant women that want to get an abortion. No more BS legislation prohibiting anyone from getting married (the republicans think gay marriages are a sin, and therefore feel they are smarter than the individual).

I feel alot of my beliefs fly in the face of one party or the other. I'd have to disagree with you that my beliefs are universal. You may believe them, but I'm feeling pretty confident there are many that would not agree with everything that I believe.

Just saying

[Coolhand5599]

Romney will be Bush 3.0, for Obama wasn't that bad, he was like version Bush 1.5.

The problem is that the country in all reality isn't run by one single person, the president. There are several ministers that run each department, and Obama didn't the time or the political will to find new and different ones that didn't share the Bush doctrine.

Im sure that he'l improve in the next term.

You must not pay much attention to politics. Obama has been the worst president ever. Romney is nothing like Bush. That is the funniest thing I have heard yet with this election. Bush was a cowboy like Yosamity Sam, don't mess with Texas attitude. Romney is nothing like this. He is a fixer, a fiscal consertive. He saved hundreds of companies from going out of business and saved tens of thousands of jobs. Yes, some jobs were lost. Many failing companies are mis managedand over staffed. In order to save thousands of jobs some must be lost. Any good business man knows this

[Persistence2012]

no problem, but here's my rebuttal:

however, there are many in America that feel we should not have access to guns. I would get in some long and frustrating conversations with "huggers" that feel just as strongly as I, but on the opposing side.

regarding transfer payments (3rd item down). there are many that feel it is our civic duty to help out those less fortunate than ourselves. I agree with this to a certain extent. However, where i disagree is that it shouldn't be FORCED on me. It should be a decision, not a requirement.

5th one down, seperation of church and state. I said STRICT seperation. No more "in god we trust", or any reference to a supreme being. no more putting your hand on the bible and being sworn in. No more "so help me god". No more evangelicals running the Republican party, who think they know better than the pregnant women that want to get an abortion. No more BS legislation prohibiting anyone from getting married (the republicans think gay marriages are a sin, and therefore feel they are smarter than the individual).

I feel alot of my beliefs fly in the face of one party or the other. I'd have to disagree with you that my beliefs are universal. You may believe them, but I'm feeling pretty confident there are many that would not agree with everything that I believe.

Just saying

You misunderstood me lol.

For in layman's terms, i was saying that the values that you hold your very own political set of beliefs, are actually held by the majority across the spectrum. It wasn't meant to come off as that i disagree with you lol.

EDIT: Just realized that u did catch on. so ignore my post above.

You must not pay much attention to politics. Obama has been the worst president ever. Romney is nothing like Bush. That is the funniest thing I have heard yet with this election. Bush was a cowboy like Yosamity Sam, don't mess with Texas attitude. Romney is nothing like this. He is a fixer, a fiscal consertive. He saved hundreds of companies from going out of business and saved tens of thousands of jobs. Yes, some jobs were lost. Many failing companies are mis managedand over staffed. In order to save thousands of jobs some must be lost. Any good business man knows this

There are extreme's to the spectrum, and generally speaking we both are geared toward aiding those in between the two extreme ends. Hence, which is why I said they're mostly universally applicable. Furthermore, the concentration of the populus is in no caring about the policies and how they differentiate between the two, to the extent that the media has blown it out of proportion to be.

If there is one specific policy, such as legalizing gun rights across the country, then those individuals will concede their vote to that candidate regardless of what theyre actual stance on the remaining policies are. Furthermore, given that theres only 2 candidates, they don't really have a choice. A prime example would be if one of the candidates were to advocate something similar along the lines of the Arizona Law for immigrants but to be implemented state wide, only the indigenous mexican population would care to cede their vote for that candidate even he may be on the other hand supporting increases taxes/increase gay rights.

So in a way, the values that u mentioned can be deemed to be applicable to the majority of the population. Nonetheless, great post.

P.S. With regard to discriminting between bush, romney and obama; Obama came in on 2008, there was a crisis in 2007, i.e. the financial melt down. The double dip recession took place due to another financial melt down in 2009. Most recently, in 2011 there is a flash crash. This clearly shows that there events that are taking place that are out of the scope of Obama's hand, and given that there were 3 crashes in his 4 year term, I would say he did relatively good.

The problem with romney would be that he does have alluring campaign promises, as did obama in 2007, but the issue is that he won't implement them. The very few that do get implemented, will be done so in a way that barely assists the average, common man with additional income or decreased prices. Whose to blame? The over financialization of the economy.

[Coolhand5599]

You misunderstood me lol.

For in layman's terms, i was saying that the values that you hold your very own political set of beliefs, are actually held by the majority across the spectrum. It wasn't meant to come off as that i disagree with you lol.

EDIT: Just realized that u did catch on. so ignore my post above.


There are extreme's to the spectrum, and generally speaking we both are geared toward aiding those in between the two extreme ends. Hence, which is why I said they're mostly universally applicable. Furthermore, the concentration of the populus is in no caring about the policies and how they differentiate between the two, to the extent that the media has blown it out of proportion to be.

If there is one specific policy, such as legalizing gun rights across the country, then those individuals will concede their vote to that candidate regardless of what theyre actual stance on the remaining policies are. Furthermore, given that theres only 2 candidates, they don't really have a choice. A prime example would be if one of the candidates were to advocate something similar along the lines of the Arizona Law for immigrants but to be implemented state wide, only the indigenous mexican population would care to cede their vote for that candidate even he may be on the other hand supporting increases taxes/increase gay rights.

So in a way, the values that u mentioned can be deemed to be applicable to the majority of the population. Nonetheless, great post.

P.S. With regard to discriminting between bush, romney and obama; Obama came in on 2008, there was a crisis in 2007, i.e. the financial melt down. The double dip recession took place due to another financial melt down in 2009. Most recently, in 2011 there is a flash crash. This clearly shows that there events that are taking place that are out of the scope of Obama's hand, and given that there were 3 crashes in his 4 year term, I would say he did relatively good.

The problem with romney would be that he does have alluring campaign promises, as did obama in 2007, but the issue is that he won't implement them. The very few that do get implemented, will be done so in a way that barely assists the average, common man with additional income or decreased prices. Whose to blame? The over financialization of the economy.

In my opinion the person to blame for the meltdown is whoever instituted he sub prime mortgage debocal. I think it was Clinton, I may be wrong. Credit became to easy and credit cards wer given to anyone with a heartbeat with retarded limits. Irresponsible people do not deserve credit. When any moron could get a mortgage with a no doc loan and no money down it created a real estate boom that could not be sustained. I had 75 homes that I sold in 2003 & 2004. Anyone with a brain in real estate saw this coming.

[BringIT]

you guys should watch an Alex Jones doc on youtube about the global economical climate. i was never into conspiracy theories ect but its weird how they kind of make sense