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    suicide hides war's true cost.

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    Suicide hides war's true cost

    A dirty little fact you should know: For every one of our military personnel killed in Iraq or Afghanistan, 25 veterans of those wars have committed suicide. Something we all need to keep in mind whenever someone begins to talk about war with Iran or any other country.




    I normally don't ever engage in any conversation or debate that I know will not get resolved. But I'd like to change some of your opinions on the way you view the troops that defend our country and its way of life. So please stop watching and preaching what you see on the news. For the most part they are inaccurate. Please research your own facts or ask someone in the know.

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    This is horse shit lol

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    I would be interested in backup to those facts. Not that I disbelieve them...I don't trust any facts like that without context.

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    ^^ Yep, talk is cheap, back it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armykid93 View Post
    This is horse shit lol
    This is pretty much correct statistically. Army times conducted research a few months back to conclude that every 80 minutes a war veteran commits suicide. No need to prove this, just google it and see for yourselves.

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    This thread (and threads like this) are a great opportunity for spontaneous learning. The reader gets through a few lines and "accidentally" learns something new. Unfortunately, just making a claim and then saying "look it up" doesn't get many people engaged.

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    So my question is how should our view of the troops be changed by this statistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armykid93 View Post
    So my question is how should our view of the troops be changed by this statistic?
    Why would we change our views of soldiers, sailors, Marines and Airmen over this? This is unfortunatly a fact of life and happens inside as well as outside the Military's ranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas View Post
    This thread (and threads like this) are a great opportunity for spontaneous learning. The reader gets through a few lines and "accidentally" learns something new. Unfortunately, just making a claim and then saying "look it up" doesn't get many people engaged.
    I will open the door for you learn but I will not hold your hand and walk you through it. We are all big boys and know how to use search functions as done here.

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    There was a very in-depth article about this on www.projectcensored.org - I feel like that's a pretty good - unbiased site.

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    25 suicides for every KIA? That's roughly 120,000 suicides. I think their math is a bit fuzzy. That being said, I agree with the fact that our men and women need better mental health assistance when returning from combat. 1 in 5 suffers PTSD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    This is pretty much correct statistically. Army times conducted research a few months back to conclude that every 80 minutes a war veteran commits suicide. No need to prove this, just google it and see for yourselves.
    In July 2011, 32 service members committed suicide, a high water mark at the time. If you use 30/month over a 10 year period, it's 3600 suicides. Now that is 3600 too many, but far short of 25/1

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