Who will be the next president of the USA

[Joco71]

I wanted to get a feel of what our members are thinking about the upcoming elelction. What are your thoughts? I believe this election will be the most important election in modern day. Our country is in need of a great leader.

[lovbyts]

We have some good candidates, I think/hope. I have not done enough homework any any of them to make a decision. There are many things I like about several or at least what they say, I'm just not sure how strong their resolve and if they are flip flops or not. I will need to check their past to find out and also if they did do a flip flop on why. I think it's find for a candidate to change his mind/views over time as long as it's not because of popularity/votes.

I keep saying I'm not sold on Trump and dont know how far he will go but one think I REALLY like is he does not flip/flop, he does not care if he pisses of someone and will loose votes because of his beliefs. I would rather have someone I dont agree with 100% on everything and they are true to their word or beliefs vs someone you have no idea what direction they are going to go or bend once they are in office.

Considering the recent supreme court decision yesterday saying no proof of ID or citizenship for voters may make a big influence unfortunately.

I will say if Hillary gets elected I will spend the next 1yr doing a lot of garage sales, liquidating everything I can as quickly as I can and then sell my house and prepare to move out of the US

I like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Trump. Rubio I think also seems pretty good but a little wishy washy on some things.

[PrettyPlease?]

We have some good candidates, I think/hope. I have not done enough homework any any of them to make a decision. There are many things I like about several or at least what they say, I'm just not sure how strong their resolve and if they are flip flops or not. I will need to check their past to find out and also if they did do a flip flop on why. I think it's find for a candidate to change his mind/views over time as long as it's not because of popularity/votes.

I keep saying I'm not sold on Trump and dont know how far he will go but one think I REALLY like is he does not flip/flop, he does not care if he pisses of someone and will loose votes because of his beliefs. I would rather have someone I dont agree with 100% on everything and they are true to their word or beliefs vs someone you have no idea what direction they are going to go or bend once they are in office.

Considering the recent supreme court decision yesterday saying no proof of ID or citizenship for voters may make a big influence unfortunately.

I will say if Hillary gets elected I will spend the next 1yr doing a lot of garage sales, liquidating everything I can as quickly as I can and then sell my house and prepare to move out of the US

I like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Trump. Rubio I think also seems pretty good but a little wishy washy on some things.

Agree with almost all of this. And my Hope is Rand Paul but don't know if he will go all the way.

[Brett N]

I really don't know who the front runner is going to be yet on Republican side, that is really what it all depends on. He has to be just liberal enough to get a few of the Democrats to vote that way or he won't win.

Dems. have a good history of getting the voters to show up that wouldn't normally show. Obama did this well wit the black vote and I feel Hillary will do the same since Bill was so well liked in the black community. I know this isn't about race but it is about getting voters to turn up. Obama may have just pissed off enough of the country enough to where the Republicans will have a better turn out.

If hitory tells us anything about the general population of the US. It is that they like familiar names even though they know shit about politics. I now this fact will benefit Hillary, it could also benefit Jeb Bush but I really don't see him gaining any ground.

I don't see Trump as a viable candidate, I think he will stir things up and make more show up to the polls because he creates excitement but I really don't see people voting him in. His flaky history definitely has tarnished his credibility as a candidate.

I think it's really going to come down to Rand Paul or Hillary. Running mates could be the deciding factor on this. ( Hillary has become such a common figure that she doesn't even need her last name anymore. That's scary)

[djgreen]

I think Hilary Clinton will make it all the way and have a very good chance at taking it .sadly because her supporters are dumb as hell or think she can change also she has more $$$ and connections than any other runners. I don't support her at all she has blood on her hands from bengazi and lies about everything and has tones of scandals surrounding her. I think Rand Paul has a good head on his shoulders but idk how far he will make it

[spywizard]

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[kelkel]

I think (hope) one of the investigations will eventually reveal enough to sink Hillary's chances. At least to anyone with a modicum of intelligence.
I do think Joe Biden will jump in at the last minute.
It's way to early to tell who will come out on top on the republican side. Some interesting candidates there. Rand Paul was mentioned above a few times. I think he's a bright, interesting guy. Caveat is he's probably more of an isolationist and I'd fear his foreign policy would be similar to the current regime.

[djgreen]

I hope the people see through her crap as well however, just about everything is already out there and if they cant see it now they prob never will. and when she does get those questions that she has avoided for so long she will give some slippery evasive answers and people will say oh well they are picking on her because shes a woman

[Joco71]

We have some good candidates, I think/hope. I have not done enough homework any any of them to make a decision. There are many things I like about several or at least what they say, I'm just not sure how strong their resolve and if they are flip flops or not. I will need to check their past to find out and also if they did do a flip flop on why. I think it's find for a candidate to change his mind/views over time as long as it's not because of popularity/votes.

I keep saying I'm not sold on Trump and dont know how far he will go but one think I REALLY like is he does not flip/flop, he does not care if he pisses of someone and will loose votes because of his beliefs. I would rather have someone I dont agree with 100% on everything and they are true to their word or beliefs vs someone you have no idea what direction they are going to go or bend once they are in office.

Considering the recent supreme court decision yesterday saying no proof of ID or citizenship for voters may make a big influence unfortunately.

I will say if Hillary gets elected I will spend the next 1yr doing a lot of garage sales, liquidating everything I can as quickly as I can and then sell my house and prepare to move out of the US

I like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Trump. Rubio I think also seems pretty good but a little wishy washy on some things.

I'm right there with you. I think time and some debates and exsposure will paint a better picture.

[zempey]

Who ever wins will be another lying, useless cvnt. Anyone who could make a difference will never win, it's not in the intrest of big corporate money.

[Joco71]

I think Hilary Clinton will make it all the way and have a very good chance at taking it .sadly because her supporters are dumb as hell or think she can change also she has more $$$ and connections than any other runners. I don't support her at all she has blood on her hands from bengazi and lies about everything and has tones of scandals surrounding her. I think Rand Paul has a good head on his shoulders but idk how far he will make it

God help us if she actually makes it. I hope the American people wake up before this happens.

[Joco71]

Who ever wins will be another lying, useless cvnt. Anyone who could make a difference will never win, it's not in the intrest of big corporate money.

Very true Zemp it plays a big role in their future decisions. Because of big donors and special interest groups.

[Joco71]

I think (hope) one of the investigations will eventually reveal enough to sink Hillary's chances. At least to anyone with a modicum of intelligence.
I do think Joe Biden will jump in at the last minute.
It's way to early to tell who will come out on top on the republican side. Some interesting candidates there. Rand Paul was mentioned above a few times. I think he's a bright, interesting guy. Caveat is he's probably more of an isolationist and I'd fear his foreign policy would be similar to the current regime.

It would be great if they came through with something that sank her ship.

[Joco71]

I hope the people see through her crap as well however, just about everything is already out there and if they cant see it now they prob never will. and when she does get those questions that she has avoided for so long she will give some slippery evasive answers and people will say oh well they are picking on her because shes a woman

Well I think there is alot more info out there that would incriminate her. They found and released thousands of her emails yesterday that have some pretty savory intel.

[davidtheman100]

We can start by saying if Hilary is elected America would have reached an all-time low. Funny how when people stomp on American flags and people say they hate white people liberals will call it free speech..But if you say anything that hinders their agenda it becomes "hate-speech"

[Joco71]

We can start by saying if Hilary is elected America would have reached an all-time low. Funny how when people stomp on American flags and people say they hate white people liberals will call it free speech..But if you say anything that hinders their agenda it becomes "hate-speech"

I know and they keep doing over and over again. I just can't believe the people of this country can't see that. Almost like they walk around with ear plugs and blinders on.

[PrettyPlease?]

. Caveat is he's probably more of an isolationist and I'd fear his foreign policy would be similar to the current regime.

He might surprise you in that regard. I know that is one of the biggest differences between he and Ron Paul. Ron takes a total isolationist approach.

[btpolak]

We have some good candidates, I think/hope. I have not done enough homework any any of them to make a decision. There are many things I like about several or at least what they say, I'm just not sure how strong their resolve and if they are flip flops or not. I will need to check their past to find out and also if they did do a flip flop on why. I think it's find for a candidate to change his mind/views over time as long as it's not because of popularity/votes.

I keep saying I'm not sold on Trump and dont know how far he will go but one think I REALLY like is he does not flip/flop, he does not care if he pisses of someone and will loose votes because of his beliefs. I would rather have someone I dont agree with 100% on everything and they are true to their word or beliefs vs someone you have no idea what direction they are going to go or bend once they are in office.

Considering the recent supreme court decision yesterday saying no proof of ID or citizenship for voters may make a big influence unfortunately.

I will say if Hillary gets elected I will spend the next 1yr doing a lot of garage sales, liquidating everything I can as quickly as I can and then sell my house and prepare to move out of the US

I like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Trump. Rubio I think also seems pretty good but a little wishy washy on some things.

I couldn't have said it any better. I'm hoping more and more people will see Hillary for the snake she really is. I have several Democrat friends who honestly are leaning more toward Bernie Sanders rather than Hillary. Trump is a good candidate because he is unapologetic for his opinions, which are rooted in fact, but his delivery was far too unedited for this BS politically correct society that is being developed. Also, he has the money to back himself and does not have to cater to all the special interest groups that dump money his way. I also like the idea of actually bringing back more jobs to the US. There are people crying for more money to do jobs that require almost no real intelligence, but really should be crying out that we need more jobs at home for the opportunity to have a career.. Ted Cruz has so far been my choice because he's been a man who has actually been more interested in being a man of his word and has represented the majority of Texans like a representative should. He is very well spoken and is an intelligent individual.

[Joco71]

Does anyone have an opinion on Chris Christie or Perry and what about the governor of Ohio John Kasich. I hope Hillary gets cooked. Carly Fiorina is a very intelligent women and very conservative not to mention she bashes the shit out of Hillary every chance she gets.LOL

[vic1778]

Hillary Clinton all the way. The Republicans have DESTROYED this country....

[btpolak]

Any questions?

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected
a Republican mayor since 1961;

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)… since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)… since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)…. since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)… since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)… since 1952;

Newark, NJ (10th)… since 1907.

[Joco71]

Republicans are far from perfect I will give you that, but I would take anyone of these Republican candidates over Hilliary Clinton and another 4 yrs of same shit we have already endured for last 8yrs. Obama will be recognized as a very big mistake in the future in fact is already getting recognition for it now. He has damn near run this country in the dirt.

[davidtheman100]

Hilary Clinton should have already been relieved of her duties because of Bengazi and those email scandals are just bad news...Not to mention no country is going to respect a women leading America...For the protection of the citizens in the US especially at a crucial time with terrorism you don't want anyone getting too comfortable hurting Americans...They're already comfortable enough Hilary clinton is out to f*cking lunch all she cares about is the black lives matter campaign to gain popularity and gay marraige

[kelkel]

The Republicans have DESTROYED this country....

How?

[djgreen]

partisanship and politics is what is destroying this country not one single party

[Joco71]

This^^^ ^would be a huge deal for who ever the president is and his or her party or agenda. Working together that is with a common goal!! That said these goals should be the wants and needs of we the people.

[thisAngelBites]

Hillary is so dirty and would be an embarrassment for the US. Sadly, I think anyone who is electable is a de facto cvnt.

[Joco71]

Liberal media is just going after Don Trump!! He must worry them a bit.

[jackfrost88]

Hate to be a pessimist but will it really matter? More likely than not I think Hillary will run and win. Trump is in it for a joke. Ted Cruz will probably do well for republicans. Rand Paul will probably be runner up I think for the republican nomination?

Regardless, military spending will increase, national debt will continue to balloon, social program spending will not be cut much if at all. The US will continue to overspread itself by going into more foreign countries, probably Syria, Iran, who knows Russia/China or fund any side of a civil strife which favours its interests.

Looks grim for the US.

Just my 2cents

[tarmyg]

Hillary Clinton will carry this election and I am betting my left nut on it.

My vote will go to Rand Paul but chances that he, or any Republican for that matter, will win is slim to none.

Also, if every mofo who claims they will move if the incorrect person wins actually did so the country would be damn empty by now, no offense to lovbyts .

[thisAngelBites]

Also, if every mofo who claims they will move if the incorrect person wins actually did so the country would be damn empty by now

I am far too amused by those threats. As soon as the supreme court decided that gay marriage case, I tuned in closely to see the footage of the pastors who were going to set themselves on fire. It turns out (surprise) they didn't really mean it.

It's a nice sort of rejoinder to people who say if you don't like the country, leave. That turns out to be slightly more onerous than people think.

[NACH3]

Didn't Christie just enter for the Republicans(out of Jersey)?! He's one not to flip flop - not as much as Trump(which is one thing I do like about him)! Like LB I'd rather have someone that knows what they're going to do and not waver & stick to their guns - even if it's not politically correct - I respect that more than this washy washy stuff we see now!

As far as Hillary goes - I just hope and pray people 'see the light' as mentioned! Our last decent president was Clinton(imo) - did more for the middle class than any other in recent yrs... It's to early to tell but it's gonna be interesting

[Joco71]

Didn't Christie just enter for the Republicans(out of Jersey)?! He's one not to flip flop - not as much as Trump(which is one thing I do like about him)! Like LB I'd rather have someone that knows what they're going to do and not waver & stick to their guns - even if it's not politically correct - I respect that more than this washy washy stuff we see now!

As far as Hillary goes - I just hope and pray people 'see the light' as mentioned! Our last decent president was Clinton(imo) - did more for the middle class than any other in recent yrs... It's to early to tell but it's gonna be interesting

It will def be interesting to watch all this unfold I think it will be a bit of a roller coaster ride between now and November.

[j3374]

If Bernie Sanders gets through the primaries, he's got my vote. If Hillary becomes my only option for the Democrats, I'll vote for Rand.

[Joco71]

If Bernie Sanders gets through the primaries, he's got my vote. If Hillary becomes my only option for the Democrats, I'll vote for Rand.

His following seems to be growing If Hillary drops the ball he will be right there to pick it up. I will be voting Republican for sure.

[j3374]

Joco, I'm actually registered as an Independent, because I think that both parties are corrupt at the political level. But a lot of my ideals are left of center (but not all). I still support our Second Amendment and am not too keen on pro-choice.

But having said that, I'll vote for an Independent running as a Republican (Rand Paul) before I give my vote to Clinton.

Everyone is entitled to their own perspective on how the country should be run.

[Joco71]

I totally agree with ya I consider myself as some what of an independent as well and like you I think both parties are corrupt from special interest groups. I will also vote Republican for few reasons. The democratic party has moved to the extreme left. Everyone is entitled to their opinion that is the beauty of a democracy.

[papathesmurf]

I'm going to go out on a Limb here and say Scott Walker...

[Joco71]

I'm going to go out on a Limb here and say Scott Walker...

It will be interesting to watch them in the debates this week.

[Joco71]

Can't wait for that debate Thursday!! It's gonna separate the cream!!