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    Trump admits to sucking but is too dumb to realize

    Trump Calls Biden 'Worst Candidate' In History Of Presidential Politics

    Trump calls Biden worst candidate in history of presidential politics-ANI - BW Businessworld

    So... If Orange Julius, the Chosen One, is running against the worst candidate ever...
    And...
    If said Chosen One is losing in the polls...

    What does that say about how good Trump is?

    I mean... seriously... he is losing to the worst candidate ever.

    I know, I know...
    #pollsarefake
    #conspiracytheory

    Now...
    I have said this before...
    I don't like Biden.
    I think he is a horrible candidate.

    But I love America too much to see it turned into a fascist state.


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    Do tell...

    Which one does Trump not check off?

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    Wait, and Biden hasn't called Trump names? You're kidding, right? It's politics. It sucks.
    Polls are flawed as you know. Just take a look at Hillary in 2016 to prove the point.
    The fascism list posted is ridiculous. It's like reading a horoscope.
    I'm curious, what's wrong with nationalism as opposed to globalism?
    Why not post a list of each candidates accomplishments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Wait, and Biden hasn't called Trump names? You're kidding, right? It's politics. It sucks.
    Polls are flawed as you know. Just take a look at Hillary in 2016 to prove the point.
    The fascism list posted is ridiculous. It's like reading a horoscope.
    I'm curious, what's wrong with nationalism as opposed to globalism?
    Why not post a list of each candidates accomplishments?
    Polls are flawed as you know. Just take a look at Hillary in 2016 to prove the point.
    The polls got the popular vote right.
    America does have a system where some people's votes count more than others.
    I personally think we should do away with the electoral college.

    The fascism list posted is ridiculous. It's like reading a horoscope.
    It may read like a horoscope but it is commonly accepted by scholars of the subject.

    I'm curious, what's wrong with nationalism as opposed to globalism?
    Nationalism:
    noun
    identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

    Other nations have people in them.
    Nationalism hurts those people.
    Now I will say that that may be fine for our enemies but Trump has made enemies of our Allies and befriended dictators.

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    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...-s-image_0-04/

    Globalism is founded on the belief that everyone would be better off if we didn't try to actively keep everyone else down.
    Think no wars. or tariffs.
    Think reducing pollution.


    beyond our borders do not live a lesser people


    Trying to compare a VP's achievements to a President's achievements is obviously flawed.
    But I will say that America achieved more growth and less debt under Obama/Biden than under Trump/Pence.

    I am in no way trying to be disrespectful.
    I simply have tried to stop posting in the far-right wing media thread.
    I figure that if our board is going to constantly spew right wing biased views we may as well balance it out with some counter arguments.

    I personally don't like Biden.
    I personally think Trump is a pyschopath.

    I do realize that politics, like religion, is a tricky subject with very heated views and beliefs.
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    [QUOTE=The Deadlifting Dog;7530242]Polls are flawed as you know. Just take a look at Hillary in 2016 to prove the point.
    The polls got the popular vote right.
    America does have a system where some people's votes count more than others.
    I personally think we should do away with the electoral college.

    The fascism list posted is ridiculous. It's like reading a horoscope.
    It may read like a horoscope but it is commonly accepted by scholars of the subject.

    I'm curious, what's wrong with nationalism as opposed to globalism?
    Nationalism:
    noun
    identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

    Other nations have people in them.
    Nationalism hurts those people.
    Now I will say that that may be fine for our enemies but Trump has made enemies of our Allies and befriended dictators.

    Attachment 180099

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...-s-image_0-04/

    Globalism is founded on the belief that everyone would be better off if we didn't try to actively keep everyone else down.
    Think no wars. or tariffs.
    Think reducing pollution.


    beyond our borders do not live a lesser people


    Trying to compare a VP's achievements to a President's achievements is obviously flawed.
    But I will say that America achieved more growth and less debt under Obama/Biden than under Trump/Pence.

    I am in no way trying to be disrespectful.
    I simply have tried to stop posting in the far-right wing media thread.
    I figure that if our board is going to constantly spew right wing biased views we may as well balance it out with some counter arguments.

    I personally don't like Biden.
    I personally think Trump is a pyschopath.

    I do realize that politics, like religion, is a tricky subject with very heated views and beliefs.=QUOTE]


    [/https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-27/trump-vs-obama-who-really-did-better-on-the-economy

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lat...my%3f_amp=true

    Here is an article comparing the Trump and Hussein economic growth/demise.

    I cant speak for everything just myself and obviously alot more things come into factor than the presidential seat., but i do have more money in the bank under trump than i did Hussein. Another thing reminds me, stimulus check from Hussein was about 800 if I remember correctly...i got 3400 from Don.
    And im not sure why this post will not quote correctly lol oh well
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    Anybody remember Ross Perot's run for president in '92? While not without his flaws, he was a breath of fresh air in US politics.

    Looking forward to the day we get a viable third party candidate...

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    Cuz,

    I appreciate your post. Honestly.
    Unfortunately I can't read the article because I am not a subscriber to the Los Angeles Times.
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    Economic Growth
    This might sting a bit, but despite passing tax cuts in 2017, Trump’s economy has generally fallen short of his predecessor’s performance — suggesting that the government lost a lot of tax revenue for very little economic growth in return. But averaging over the three years, Trump is slightly ahead at 2.5 per cent per year, vs. Obama’s 2.4 per cent.

    Trump slight win but with increased deficit.

    Job Creation
    UOB economists note that Trump falls short in this space, as non-farm payroll rose by 6.4 million over the first three years, against 7.9 million jobs created in the last three years of Obama’s government.

    Obama win.

    Household Income
    Obama led with 8 per cent growth in household income in his final three years in office, compared to 7.7 per cent in the first three years of Trump’s era.

    Obama win.


    Trade Balance
    Another major theme of the Trump campaign was to eliminate trade deficits. But in fact, U.S. trade deficits with the world have worsened in the three years under Trump.

    Trump failing.

    Trade Balance With China
    Fighting China’s trade surplus was another key agenda of the White House. However, Trump has presided over a record trade deficit with China.

    Trump failing.

    Federal Debt
    While Trump promised to eliminate national debt in eight years, his first three years in office has seen federal debt rise by US$2.1 trillion, a 50 per cent surge compared to Obama’s final three years.

    Obama win.
    Also another case of Republicans being less fisaclly responsible than the Democrats.

    https://financialpost.com/executive/...bit-surprising

    As far as Republicans vs. Democrats with fiscal responsibility.

    Attachment 180100

    It is a little realized fact that the reason Reagan's economy did so well is because he drastically increased the deficits.
    People cling to the belief that Republicans are the fiscally responsible politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Polls are flawed as you know. Just take a look at Hillary in 2016 to prove the point.
    The polls got the popular vote right.
    America does have a system where some people's votes count more than others.
    I personally think we should do away with the electoral college.

    Then you'd have only two or three of the most densly populated states controlling all elections. The Founding Fathers were smarter than that.

    The fascism list posted is ridiculous. It's like reading a horoscope.
    It may read like a horoscope but it is commonly accepted by scholars of the subject

    Yet even scholars disagree.

    I'm curious, what's wrong with nationalism as opposed to globalism?
    Nationalism:
    noun
    identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

    Other nations have people in them.
    Nationalism hurts those people.
    Now I will say that that may be fine for our enemies but Trump has made enemies of our Allies and befriended dictators.

    Attachment 180099

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...-s-image_0-04/

    Trump does not practice any form of extreme nationalism like the media portrays. He simply puts America first. Personally I want any president to do that. I don't want a leader like Chamberlain. I want Churchill. I'm curious, what allies are now enemies? Be specific. Regarding enemies, is keeping us out of wars and peace treaties in the middle east (that's never been done before) a bad thing?

    Globalism is founded on the belief that everyone would be better off if we didn't try to actively keep everyone else down.
    Think no wars. or tariffs.See above
    Think reducing pollution.te Carbon emissions are lower now than when in the Paris Climate accord.


    beyond our borders do not live a lesser people Agree


    Trying to compare a VP's achievements to a President's achievements is obviously flawed.My god he's been in government for almost 50 years.
    But I will say that America achieved more growth and less debt under Obama/Biden than under Trump/Pence. Disagree.

    I am in no way trying to be disrespectful.
    I simply have tried to stop posting in the far-right wing media thread.
    I figure that if our board is going to constantly spew right wing biased views we may as well balance it out with some counter arguments.

    I personally don't like Biden.
    I personally think Trump is a pyschopath.

    I do realize that politics, like religion, is a tricky subject with very heated views and beliefs.

    Don't apologize for your opinion. I respect them and enjoy reading them. It's what America is all about, or should be at least. Having differing opinions and still being able to get along. Zero worries brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Don't apologize for your opinion. I respect them and enjoy reading them. It's what America is all about, or should be at least. Having differing opinions and still being able to get along. Zero worries brother.
    I want to see you pissed!!! Too calm, cool, and collective!


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    People should take notice. This how you debate and argue. I am rarely very good at it. Appreciate you guys setting an example. If somehow we could stop the pure hate postings in the other main threads it would make my day and get back to more positive attitudes.

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    Dow Jones December 31 2016. 19762.60

    Today 26659.11

    In an Obama economy my home was worth less, i made less money per hour BUT my interest rates were lower on my truck loan as opposed to 2019.. i will still take a Trump economy over a Barry economy but the low interest was nice not saying Trump is an economic savior but i respectfully disagree that Obama won that one.

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    The founding fathers may have been smart but that doesn't mean the system can't be improved upon.

    That's why we have amendments.

    If you don't like the idea of the popular vote counting...
    Then surely you must see the value of splitting up the elctoral college votes like Nebraska and Maine do.

    It is silly that a state such as Florida can be determined by say 100,000 votes.
    In Florida in 2016 Trump got 4,617,886 votes. 49.02%
    Hillary got 4,504,975 votes.47.82%
    That is a difference of just over 100,000 votes out of 9,000,000.

    Why should all 29 electoral college votes go to one party when 47.82% of the people wanted the other candidate?
    They could've split the votes 25-24.
    That way everyone's vote matters.

    I know many people, myself included many times, who didn't vote simply because of the state we lived in.
    If you are in NY where Biden has about a 30% lead, your one vote don't mean shit to the final result.
    Same thing in Alabama where Trump has about a 19% lead.

    I would rather they split the vote up.

    As it is now... it is projected that whoever wins Pennslyvania wins the race.
    (Not quite but you know what I mean.)
    As it is now... only a few states determine the results of the last 4 or 5 elections I believe.

    If you are a Republican in NY or CA, you're shit out of luck.
    If you are a Democrat in AL or AK, you're also shit out of luck.

    I think many more people would vote if we either went to the popular vote or the split electoral college vote method.

    And as Americans, we should want more people to vote.

    And don't even get me started on fucking gerrymandering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Dow Jones December 31 2016. 19762.60

    Today 26659.11

    In an Obama economy my home was worth less, i made less money per hour BUT my interest rates were lower on my truck loan as opposed to 2019.. i will still take a Trump economy over a Barry economy but the low interest was nice not saying Trump is an economic savior but i respectfully disagree that Obama won that one.
    A stocks price is a measure of a companies worth.
    A stock is simply part ownership of that company.

    If you cut corporate taxes, then companies make more money.
    Thus they get valued higher.

    Stocks are an inaccurate value of the economy as a whole.

    for example:
    In the past two weeks stocks have gone down about 7.5%.
    That does not mean the economy got 7.5% worse in the last two weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    People should take notice. This how you debate and argue. I am rarely very good at it. Appreciate you guys setting an example. If somehow we could stop the pure hate postings in the other main threads it would make my day and get back to more positive attitudes.
    Although I agree...
    I have been guilty of hate posting at times.

    Like SampsonandDelilath...
    I hate him 'cause he can out bench me.
    (He also looks better and his wife is hot. What an asshole.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    A stocks price is a measure of a companies worth.
    A stock is simply part ownership of that company.

    If you cut corporate taxes, then companies make more money.
    Thus they get valued higher.

    Stocks are an inaccurate value of the economy as a whole.

    for example:
    In the past two weeks stocks have gone down about 7.5%.
    That does not mean the economy got 7.5% worse in the last two weeks.
    Partly agree.. Tell that to the people that canít retire because they do not have enough In Their 401k anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    A stocks price is a measure of a companies worth.
    A stock is simply part ownership of that company.

    If you cut corporate taxes, then companies make more money.
    Thus they get valued higher.

    Stocks are an inaccurate value of the economy as a whole.

    for example:
    In the past two weeks stocks have gone down about 7.5%.
    That does not mean the economy got 7.5% worse in the last two weeks.

    Since the stock market is a vote of confidence, a crash can devastate economic growth. Lower stock prices mean less wealth for businesses, pension funds, and individual investors. Companies can't get as much funding for operations and expansion. When retirement fund values fall, it reduces consumer spending.






    Everything ive seen Biden wants higher taxes. So in theory that wouldn’t be good for the market. You have to admit democrat or republican the market is better under Trump, and my taxes are lower under Trump ...and i dont get fined for not having health insurance, particularly the insurance Barry sold us...under Trump. Most people tend to agree a good strong stock market means a good economy, sorta how shitty the market was in the 1930s...made for a shitty economy but I see what your saying there about stocks rising and falling and such
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    Interesting comments on splitting Electoral College votes. I'll have to do some reading on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    People should take notice. This how you debate and argue. I am rarely very good at it. Appreciate you guys setting an example. If somehow we could stop the pure hate postings in the other main threads it would make my day and get back to more positive attitudes.

    DD told me to tell you to fvck off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    DD told me to tell you to fvck off.
    See, male courtesy! Thatís what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Since the stock market is a vote of confidence, a crash can devastate economic growth. Lower stock prices mean less wealth for businesses, pension funds, and individual investors. Companies can't get as much funding for operations and expansion. When retirement fund values fall, it reduces consumer spending.






    Everything ive seen Biden wants higher taxes. So in theory that wouldn’t be good for the market. You have to admit democrat or republican the market is better under Trump, and my taxes are lower under Trump ...and i dont get fined for not having health insurance, particularly the insurance Barry sold us...under Trump. Most people tend to agree a good strong stock market means a good economy, sorta how shitty the market was in the 1930s...made for a shitty economy but I see what your saying there about stocks rising and falling and such
    Short-term gain for long-term pain. Another 4 years under Trump and we'll be in a "tremendous" recession.

    Most of what you gained was not from Trump, but from the upward trajectory of the economy, regardless of who the president was going to be. It's called inertia. You can thank Obama for that. The fact that you got a raise has nothing to do with Trump. The fact that your house is worth more now, has nothing to do with Trump.

    "...he (Trump) has presided over the largest peacetime expansion of the budget deficit in three-quarters of a century."

    "...Trump has reversed the U.S.’s longstanding policy in favor of free trade. The resulting trade war has led to weakness in the export and manufacturing sectors, particularly in the Midwest."

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-is-undeniable

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