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    The study of TEN MILLION the pro-COVID lobby won't talk about

    The study of 10,000,000 the pro-COVID lobby won't talk about

    ... According to the American Institute of Economic Research:

    In this case, the carrier of rationality is a gigantic study conducted in Wuhan, China, of 10 million people. The article appears in Nature Communications, published November 20, 2020.

    The conclusion is not that asymptomatic spread is rare or that the science is uncertain. The study revealed something that hardly ever happens in these kinds of studies. There was not one documented case. Forget rare. Forget even Fauci’s previous suggestion that asymptomatic transmission exists but not does drive the spread. Replace all that with: never. At least not in this study for 10,000,000...

    ... The Chinese study is by far the biggest, but there are numerous other indicators suggesting the same, as the WHO official's statement indicates. The evidence is even empirical: How many of us have gone to Walmart, Costco or Target, wearing our flimsy masks, and catching nothing? We have been doing this for months, and just the law of averages would suggest we should eventually get it. But there really aren't any cases that I know about where it happened. Stores, not wanting bad publicity about superspreader events, have forced customers to wear masks and kept people with symptoms out. That mere experience would empirically confirm the Wuhan study, too.

    It not only shows that the extended lockdowns have been a waste, it confirms the villainy of the Democrat officials who insisted on lockdowns, and continue to vow to extend them. Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, Andrew Cuomo, Phil Murphy, Tom Wolf, I'm talking about you. Like three-card monte operators, they always have a new excuse to extend the lockdowns, while many have not followed it themselves. What it's looking more and more like is a bid to destroy America's entrepreneurial small business class, an important driver of America's phenomenal growth, a leg up for the poor, the immigrant, and the less educated, and a reliable source for Republican votes. These creatures are villains, the people who love COVID, the COVID lobby. It's time to put them out of business.

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    Well here is a flip side to your report & empirical experiences. I can tell you with total certainty that I just watched 3 individuals catch it from someone (one proven individual in each case) asymptomatic. These are three separate situations all played out in the same way.

    To further interest you these were young, previously healthy individuals with no pre-existing conditions. And all 3 were wearing a mask.

    Unfortunately they spent less than 5 minutes with someone asymptomatic that was not wearing a mask.

    These young individuals where many times is thought at that age they get “slight” cases and mild symptoms were the most sick they ever felt in their life. Painfully sick. They have expressed to me that this didn’t compare remotely to the flu. One required brief hospitalization. All three tested positive as did the previously asymptomatic carriers in each case.

    Fortunately in 2 of the three situations all family members ultimately tested negative. However 3 asymptomatic carriers directly got three people sick and forced 12 family members to disrupt their lives and isolate until testing negative. But of course, those 12 family members had to subsequently contact everyone else that they had recently been in contact with and they too had to isolate until testing negative.

    However, I’m sure the study you cited is justified to once again undermine America’s faith in their leadership. Yes, I’d completely trust the Chinese to properly critique our approach, hell maybe even the Russians too for that matter. Let’s use their wisdom, leadership and guidance from this point on.

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    COVID is a hoax. It’s just another flu, lockdowns have caused far more damage than the virus ever could have. People have a right to stay home but healthy people never should have faced restrictions.

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    We are all entitled to our opinions and personal experiences, I just expressed mine.

    You are absolutely correct though, it’s a coronavirus, which is the same as the flu (as is a cold).

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    COVID is a hoax.
    hoax:
    noun
    a humorous or malicious deception.

    I am assuming you mean malicious deception...

    Do tell...
    Who is doing the deceiving and why?

    Just curious about your thoughts...

    My thoughts... it is a deadly virus that is currently a worldwide pandemic.
    Over 2500 Americans are dying everyday from Covid.

    The worst flu season in the past ten years has killed 40,000 Americans.
    Covid in less than a year, with all the precautions we've taken, has killed over 300,000 Americans.
    We can guess that without precautions that number would easily be 600,000 Americans.

    Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    COVID is a hoax. It’s just another flu, lockdowns have caused far more damage than the virus ever could have. People have a right to stay home but healthy people never should have faced restrictions.
    Its definitely not a hoax brother, its real.

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    The lies and deceptions have been non-stop. Hoax is as accurate a word as could ever be used to describe this plandemic. I’ve been out every day through this in the most populated place in Canada and can still only tell it exists through the television. I’ve been to empty hospitals that are claimed to be over run. The tests are flawed, earlier this month there was a stat showing only 166 so called covid deaths in Canada were not seniors and of those 166 90% had under lying health conditions. Shattering the economy for this is a farce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    The lies and deceptions have been non-stop. Hoax is as accurate a word as could ever be used to describe this plandemic. I’ve been out every day through this in the most populated place in Canada and can still only tell it exists through the television. I’ve been to empty hospitals that are claimed to be over run. The tests are flawed, earlier this month there was a stat showing only 166 so called covid deaths in Canada were not seniors and of those 166 90% had under lying health conditions. Shattering the economy for this is a farce.

    Who planned it and why?

    Is the entire world fudging numbers or just in Canada?

    By the numbers Covid deaths by population is 2.4 times worse in the US.

    I don't know much about Canada's economy or how the government handled it.
    I do think that the US government mishandled it badly. From the President on down to the Senate and House and the Governors and Mayors.
    We shut places down early on that didn't need to be shut down and now when it is really bad Covid wise people are fed up with the shut downs and government.
    We've also been fed lies from some in our government.
    Fuck, you can tell one's political party from simply how they talk about Covid or even masks.

    Trump and the Republicans downplayed it because they wanted a strong economy so they could get re-elected.
    The Democrats overplayed it because they wanted Trump gone.
    Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 12-21-2020 at 07:42 PM.

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    All of Ontario is getting locked down again even remote areas that have virtually no covid. Follow the money...Sorros, Gates, etc....

    How is it the most densely populated country on earth got this contained? I’m not buying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    hoax:
    noun
    a humorous or malicious deception.

    I am assuming you mean malicious deception...

    Do tell...
    Who is doing the deceiving and why?

    Just curious about your thoughts...

    My thoughts... it is a deadly virus that is currently a worldwide pandemic.
    Over 2500 Americans are dying everyday from Covid.

    The worst flu season in the past ten years has killed 40,000 Americans.
    Covid in less than a year, with all the precautions we've taken, has killed over 300,000 Americans.
    We can guess that without precautions that number would easily be 600,000 Americans.

    Just my opinion.
    the problem with your comparison to the flu is that your comparing it to the flu viruses of today. this is the first outbreak of covid 19, and as far as i can tell the first outbreak of the flu was the spanish flu. there could have been earlier, but it appears the spanish flu is the first well documented flu. the spanish flu killed a 1/3 of the worlds population.

    so if you actually compare them equally the first of both the corona virus is nowhere near what the flu is. we have just been dealing with the flu for 100 years, and thats why the death toll is less. if you compare the spanish flu with covid 19 there is no comparison.

    this next part is going to come off cold and fucked up, but people die in these numbers every year from being overweight and obesity. so why are we wirried about few hundred thousand. 2.8 million people die per year from being overweight and obese. to save those lives we dont force dietary restrictions on people based upon BMI. So why do we care more about the lives of corona virus victims more than obese/overweight people.

    is the corona virus real? sure it is, but it is being politicized and used to gain control of power. im not right or left im about as middle as you can get on everything. while i may not agree with you on political issues, i like the way you approach them. you make some jabs at people but they're never malicious.

    what is your opinion on corona virus if you actually compare it to a more relevant flu like the spanish flu?

    why are these few hundred thousand peoples lives so much more important, were mandating things to save there lives? we dont mandate things to save others lives when intervention could save there lives.

    i wont even try to argue whether or not corona virus is real, but do you think its not politicized for the gain of 1 party?

    the spanish flu killed around 50 million people. would you still consider covid to be worse than the flu?

    just would like to see what you think, not trying to get you to answer then attack your position with some crazy numbers or facts. just from reading your posts i just want to hear your opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    All of Ontario is getting locked down again even remote areas that have virtually no covid. Follow the money...Sorros, Gates, etc....

    How is it the most densely populated country on earth got this contained? I’m not buying it.
    Sorros makes money off of investments.
    He would make more money if stocks went up so I have no idea whey he would want to hurt economies.

    Gates makes money off of Microsoft stock.
    Not sure how Microsoft makes more money if the world economies get hurt.

    I am not buying it that it is planned by the rich.

    As far as China...
    We have no idea what their real numbers are.
    It is a communist dictatorship with censored media.

    However, when they lock down, you comply or die.
    It is easier to control a virus when everyone follows orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    the problem with your comparison to the flu is that your comparing it to the flu viruses of today. this is the first outbreak of covid 19, and as far as i can tell the first outbreak of the flu was the spanish flu. there could have been earlier, but it appears the spanish flu is the first well documented flu. the spanish flu killed a 1/3 of the worlds population.

    so if you actually compare them equally the first of both the corona virus is nowhere near what the flu is. we have just been dealing with the flu for 100 years, and thats why the death toll is less. if you compare the spanish flu with covid 19 there is no comparison.

    this next part is going to come off cold and fucked up, but people die in these numbers every year from being overweight and obesity. so why are we wirried about few hundred thousand. 2.8 million people die per year from being overweight and obese. to save those lives we dont force dietary restrictions on people based upon BMI. So why do we care more about the lives of corona virus victims more than obese/overweight people.

    is the corona virus real? sure it is, but it is being politicized and used to gain control of power. im not right or left im about as middle as you can get on everything. while i may not agree with you on political issues, i like the way you approach them. you make some jabs at people but they're never malicious.

    what is your opinion on corona virus if you actually compare it to a more relevant flu like the spanish flu?

    why are these few hundred thousand peoples lives so much more important, were mandating things to save there lives? we dont mandate things to save others lives when intervention could save there lives.

    i wont even try to argue whether or not corona virus is real, but do you think its not politicized for the gain of 1 party?

    the spanish flu killed around 50 million people. would you still consider covid to be worse than the flu?

    just would like to see what you think, not trying to get you to answer then attack your position with some crazy numbers or facts. just from reading your posts i just want to hear your opinions.
    I am no historian but...

    I know that the Spanish flu was far deadlier.
    Part of it surely comes from the fact that it was one hundred years ago and the medical science wasn't as advanced.
    Fuck, they used gauze as medical masks back then.
    If you got shot in a war you probably died from infection.
    But I also think the Spanish Flu (which historians think actually started in America) was far deadlier than Covid-19.

    But just because the Spanish Flu was more lethal doesn't mean that Covid-19 is a joke.

    Yes many people die from being overweight and we don't mandate diets. (Good thing for KelKel that fat bastard.)
    But if I overeat, it doesn't cause someone else to get fat.
    If I don't wear a mask, I can infect others.
    It is just like smoking...
    We let people smoke but don't let them smoke in public places around others.
    It is just like drinking...
    We let people drink but we don't let them drink and drive.
    Right now it is a pandemic... wear a mask.
    Once the vaccine is readily available and all people who want it can get it... then you won't have to wear one.
    (I do understand that some people believe the government is always going to make you wear a mask, and a microchip, and 5G stops you from reproducing, and Demoncrats eat babies after they fuck them. I don't buy it.)

    As far as wearing masks infringing on liberty.
    Why is everyone fine with having to wear pants?
    Where in the constitution does it say you have to wear pants??
    So enough with the freedom argument. (I want to be free to infect others!!! It is my right!!!)
    I'll vote Republican if all the Red Milfs start going topless to protest.

    I do think Covid is politicized.
    I said it earlier.

    Trump is on tape openly admitting he downplayed the pandemic.
    He wanted a strong economy so he would get re-elected.
    And the Democrats took every stab at Trump they could. They overplayed the pandemic so they could Dump Trump.

    I personally believe Trump would've won if he handled the pandemic better.
    If Covid never happened Trump would've won 100% guaranteed.
    That is part of the reason the Republicans have gone bat shit crazy with conspiracy theories.

    They know they lost because of Covid and so they need to blame it away. The truth hurts sometimes.
    My opinion.

    And I can't help saying...
    I am really sick of this whole Qanon new world order bullshit.
    Covid is real.
    If anything... China knew how bad it was and didn't tell the world so China could gain in power as the rest of the world struggled.
    That is totally feasible.
    But to think that the entire world is blowing it out of proportion so Trump would lose an election is crazy.
    If the DEEP STATE and NWO were so damn powerful then Trump never would've won versus Hillary.
    And if they rigged this election then why and the fuck didn't they rig the House and Senate.
    Seriously...
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    However, when they lock down, you comply or die.
    It is easier to control a virus when everyone follows orders.
    this is highly debatable suicides and drug over doses are way up the lockdown kills people who would otherwise be fine vs a virus that mainly kills the very sick and old that are already close to death.

    The fact you only mention Microsoft when it comes to Bill Gates shows you are not opening your eyes. He is the king of vaccines. Just like the concept of virus and anti virus on computers they have used the same concept on people. The virus is man made and came from a lab in Wuhan.

    Sorros shorts the market where he knows it will crash it’s market manipulation the same way he became rich shorting the British pound. Sorros owns all the media....
    https://www.mrc.org/commentary/over-...d-george-soros

    This is the NWO take over attempt....decades or more in the making. Trump remains president or Humanity enters dark dark times.

    You are welcome to your beliefs just as I have mine. I’m not fighting anyone here this is what I know and I’ve seen enough to believe.
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    Funny how Covid compares to the 1918 flu. There was influenza before 1918, btw. As DD said, it’s very likely it started in Kansas (great book on this actually, kind of had extra time the last several months).

    First wave was in winter, spring & summer of 1918, significant deaths. However the spread was facilitated by US soldiers transferring to different bases around the US and spreading it like wild-fire. Then of course over-seas. Being that this was occurring along with poor medical treatment it’s no wonder it was more deadly.

    Second wave in the fall of 1918 and winter of 1918/1919 it got worse & deaths were significantly higher.

    Spring of 1919, a third wave with less deaths than the winter.

    Oops, 3 likely mutations meaning people could and did get sick from that particular flu 3 separate times during that pandemic. So much for the idea of herd immunity and a guarantee that a vaccine will save the day.

    Summer of 1919 it started to improve,

    Flu season for winter fall, winter 1919 / winter spring 1920; one of the worst on record death wise.

    Labs in Wuhan and Bill Gates weren’t responsible then and financiers were preoccupied with the war. I also doubt it was us deliberately infecting our troops to spread it to others via biological war-fare and then dying like suicide bombers, but who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    this is highly debatable suicides and drug over doses are way up the lockdown kills people who would otherwise be fine vs a virus that mainly kills the very sick and old that are already close to death.

    The fact you only mention Microsoft when it comes to Bill Gates shows you are not opening your eyes. He is the king of vaccines. Just like the concept of virus and anti virus on computers they have used the same concept on people. The virus is man made and came from a lab in Wuhan.

    Sorros shorts the market where he knows it will crash it’s market manipulation the same way he became rich shorting the British pound. Sorros owns all the media....
    https://www.mrc.org/commentary/over-...d-george-soros

    This is the NWO take over attempt....decades or more in the making. Trump remains president or Humanity enters dark dark times.

    You are welcome to your beliefs just as I have mine. I’m not fighting anyone here this is what I know and I’ve seen enough to believe.
    In some cultures the old are respected and not simply viewed as those close to death.
    And let's say suicides double...
    That would be about an extra 50,000 suicides versus hundreds of thousands of Covid deaths.
    And surely some of those suicides are by people who are upset they lost a loved one.
    And surely some of those suicides are by the mentally weak who are already close to death. (Just trying to use your wording...)
    But I don't think that suicides have come close to doubling.


    And you think 2 already multi-billionaires are willing to kill 1.7 million people simply so they can make more money???
    Don't buy it.
    I don't believe Soros and Gates are Hitler.
    Soros and Gates are philanthropists.
    Hitler was a deranged fuck tard.

    You may be right about it being a man-made virus in Wuhan.
    I don't think so but I do think it is plausible that China took advantage of the situation.
    Don't think Gates and Soros are in bed with China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Trump and the Republicans downplayed it because they wanted a strong economy so they could get re-elected.
    The Democrats overplayed it because they wanted Trump gone.
    Absolutely true.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    (Good thing for KelKel that fat bastard.).

    Thrown under the bus.....damn
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