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I have no idea why stocks hover at all time highs with this going on.
I do think this blows over after tonight so I wouldn't sell.
That being said...
If the 1% chance that this turns into a movement happens then stocks will crater.
A civil war wouldn't be good for anybody.
I personally think that this is the end of Trump and his family's power.
He will continue having a cult following.
The true question... how big is the cult?
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I think these are different issues altogether, although I do think the protests from groups like BLM are at least in part due to the failure of the Trump administration to provide an inclusive rhetoric, and the constant attacks from the president on the left/democrats/liberals/blm/etc. People on the right are emboldened by Trumps brash rhetoric and aggressive commentary. Trump has repeatedly made sly remarks that acknowledged, and at the very most ignored hate groups while simultaneously trash-talking primarily left-oriented groups. Remember the remark he made about both sides having good people (the protestors and the race/hate group?). Since his election to office, we have had more extremism on both sides, which leads me to believe it's probably due to his style of governing and divisive commentary.
Nobody is telling those on the left to protest, nobody is rallying and spreading misinformation. A man was killed by law enforcement, unlawfully, and people reacted.
Trump supporters are marching the streets and protesting for an entirely different reason; because their leader is telling them the election was stolen. This is just the tip of the iceberg of lies he has been spreading. His first lie started almost a decade ago with the birther movement claiming Obama was not born in the US and is a muslim. His lies have only accelerated, until finally, during a presidential election we have the sitting president refusing to step aside and let democracy run its course. He is not only refusing to abdicate office, he's convincing all of his supporters to believe the lie that the election was somehow stolen, without a shred of real certifiable evidence...
This is not simply a situation of both sides need to come together... the right needs to get it's head straight. There is no middle ground between a lie and a truth. We can agree or disagree on policies or governing style, but fact and fiction are distinct.
So, Antifa, who are by definition an anti- right wing group, didn't urge on any of the bedlam or violence. Nonsense!!
They are just as guilty as Trump for inciting criminal behavior.
As I said before, the behavior is wrong on both sides of the aisle. You are simply are incapable of setting aside your hatred of Trump ( which you are entirely entitled to) and facing the fact the the behavior on both sides is divisive and shreds apart the fabric of the country.
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Sigh.....back to work!
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Funny thing...
Server is slow...
The right wingers will inisist it is a conspiracy by the government to limit the power of the civil war...
meanwhile...
The lefties know for sure that it is proof that the government is trying to prevent us from criticizing Trump.
Perhaps we are both right. wait. I mean correct!! right is wrong. left is right!!
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Personally I think this is the best thing that could happen to to the Republican party.
The left realized their mistake in backing the defund the police,
Nearly cost them the election.
The right will realize that backing Trumpism cost them the election.
Y'all have great chance of winning in 2024 when Biden retires and the dems run on a black woman ticket,
America is stronger than this.
Again, one side is the president, and one is a few people. I don't know anyone in Antifa, but I do know Trump... Who has more influence on this country? A little group of teenagers with too much time on their hands or the president of the free world? I have yet to receive any answers from any Trump guys on here on how you can overlook the hour long phone call with Georgia's secretary of state in which he told himto find however many thousands of votes he needs to overturn the results. I have yet to hear about how out of the 90 filings, not one still exists in court? Not 1. Is it all a conspiracy? Everyone is in a secret club to screw Trump?
We have only 4 million people vaccinated and we were supposed to have 20 by the end of 2020. Instead we wasted time debating baseless accusations based on a lie by Trump to raise money to pay his debts at the expense of our country and our democracy. I don't know how else to explain this to you. You're comparing an ant hill to a volcano. Antifa, BLM, etc. is nothing, it's a non-issue.
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I guess that's where we differ in our opinions. Whereas I see BLM, Antifa, etc., as a nuisance, you see it as a big problem and possibly a symbol to an even bigger problem. The first page on Beetlegeuse's "Mainstream media..." thread describes how I feel about that. I think it's just the pendulum swinging, as it always does.
For example, the over representation and discussion of gay/LGBTQ topics in the media, imo, are due to the years of suppression. The media long-ignored or avoided any topics relating to this. To break through a wall you have to hit it with force. I think that's what's happening. When being gay/LGBTQ becomes mainstream, the conversation will relax. All the parading and overemphasizing will die down.
Now, being a white guy myself, I can also see how people on the right may think. You see thugs doing criminal shit and getting arrested. You see people disrespecting police. You see certain groups engaging in more nefarious behavior than others. Then you have the cultural side of things. Music has changed, the media has changed. What annoys me is when things get the hip hop treatment. I grew up listening to it, along with other genres, but I do get bothered by the vulgarity that our children are getting exposed to. It comes from one side mostly. We even have a few of our own emulating that trashy lifestyle. Tattoos all over the face, vulgar music, oversexualizing everything. All that shit makes me want to drive a tank into people. But I realize that is a certain subset of the population. Not everyone within these groups is like that, and that type of stuff in the media is just over hyped. My issue with it is that the young generations get brainwashed into thinking they want to be Instagram followers who have tattoos on their faces and mumble rap over trap beats. I miss purer, simpler times. White culture is diluting, and unfortunately that's what it is. We have to find ways to preserver who we are as people.
As the pendulum swings, on the other side of blatant vulgarity you have the PC culture. Not quite on the same plane, but pushing back equally. However, the PC culture seems to always pick on certain people more than others. The way police tend to pick on blacks, PC police pick on white men (more often). Lil Turd gets the pass while Michael Stevens or whoever gets burned on the steak for saying something 10 years ago.
I can go on. I understand all this. One issue is with our culture and media. Another issue is with our political system. Two different planes. Unfortunately, they seem to intersect a lot in politics and the media. I say the president is acting unlawfully and trying to influence the election, and you tell me BLM are running rampant and destroying properties. What it seems like you are suggesting is that by somehow putting a guy like Trump in office that a culture you are not comfortable with will go away and America will be great again. However, that can't happen. The answer to make a system work can't be to create division, sow hate and fear monger. And however annoying and depressing the current social media/social causes are, we cannot accept a constitution stepping and law breaking president. The way we fix BLM, Antifa, etc., is not by reacting but by understanding and compromising. Otherwise, this country will fall apart.
Well, we do share some common concerns!! To a great extent, media goads people of different belief systems and I feel a great deal of it is simply sensationalism to increase viewers numbers. Even worse, some is to fuel more resentment and anger between people.
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