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03-02-2021, 09:19 AM #1Banned
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Dr. Suess books declared racist. Canceled
For the life of me, having had these books read to me as a child, and having read them to my Three children, I just can't understand how these are inappropriate.
This ridiculous notion of the current administration and the left in general of thinking they need censoring and cancelling shit like Dr. Suess is truly demented.
I just don't understand.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dr-seuss-...racist-imagery
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03-02-2021, 09:48 AM #2Banned
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This happened under the Trump adminisitration.
The decision to cease publication and sales of the books was made last year after months of discussion, the company told AP.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dr-seuss-...racist-imagery
Last I checked Biden wasn't in office last year.
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03-02-2021, 10:28 AM #3Banned
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"Dr. Seuss Enterprises listened and took feedback from our audiences including teachers, academics and specialists in the field as part of our review process. We then worked with a panel of experts, including educators, to review our catalog of titles," it said.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dr-seuss-...racist-imagery
I see no mention of the left.
I do see you blaming Biden and the left.
Do you have any evidence of the Democratic Party's involvement?
Or should we just take your word?
Dr. Seuss Enterprises is free to stop publications of 6 of their books if they wish.
They don't have to get the Right's approval first.Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 03-02-2021 at 10:35 AM.
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03-02-2021, 10:46 AM #5Banned
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These things aren't done on a whim. A book publisher would not pull its own books unless they deemed it necessary or saw the implications presented as harmful in some way. It's convenient to blame the "left" for any social justice act, but it's not always the case. I personally don't know which books they are referencing, so I cannot comment on if it is truly racist or not. I don't have a doubt that old children's books and cartoons, primarily developed with the white child/family as its primary audience, have some material that could be insensitive to minorities.
Then again, I do see the hypocrisy with allowing our children access to basically pornographic music videos (hoes dancing in rap videos), and rapping about fucking a white b*tch, selling drugs, etc., but nobody seems to be bothered by that... Since it's black media, Gucci Mane gets a pass, but if it's a white person, it's very controversial. That's why Eminem was so controversial... because he was white. He didn't say anything more controversial than what was already said by X amount of black rappers.
There are always two sides.
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03-02-2021, 10:49 AM #7Banned
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"Dr. Seuss Enterprises listened and took feedback from our audiences including teachers, academics and specialists in the field as part of our review process. We then worked with a panel of experts, including educators, to review our catalog of titles," it said.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dr-seuss-...racist-imagery
Posted that previously.
Guess you didn't read it.
I underlined the important parts.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
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03-02-2021, 11:20 AM #8Banned
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Say whatever you want.
It's delusional to assume anybody in america but leftist people with a leftist agenda would try to cancel Dr Suess children's books on some bizarre notion of"racism".
There's only one group that see would see racists Dr Suess children's books.
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03-02-2021, 11:24 AM #9Banned
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I agree.
I admit it's just an assumption of mine that leftist people are pressuring them to cancel Dr Suess children's books. Because in my opinion, nobody else would do that.
I don't like it. Because I like Dr Suess. I can't think of ever seeing anything offensive in them.
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03-02-2021, 11:27 AM #11Banned
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I associate Biden with the leftists ideology. Because he's the leader of that movement.
That seems reasonable to me.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...a-proclamation
And I do admit that not every leftist person agrees with every leftist policy. So I was generalizing. I admit that.
But I stick to the idea that it's leftists cancelling Suess.Last edited by Hughinn; 03-02-2021 at 11:31 AM.
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03-02-2021, 11:34 AM #12Banned
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Here's how the world works... IMO...
You, Hughinn, may not be offended by something in some of his books.
That doesn't mean that someone else isn't offeneded by something in some of his books.
Enough people were offended that the Dr. Seuss Enterprises listened and took feedback.
If that bothers you then contact Dr. Seuss Enterprises.
Not everybody shares your viewpoint.
This is America.
A melting pot.
You call it cancelling shit.
Dr. Seuss Enterprises calls it maximizing profits.
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03-02-2021, 11:53 AM #13Banned
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Some may call this a racist image...
Perhaps you don't...
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from If I ran a zoo...
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03-02-2021, 12:31 PM #14Banned
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See, that's my point exactly. And that's the thing with the modern left.
Most of what anybody has to say is likely to offend somebody, somewhere.
And that's the difference between you and I, and the liberals vs conservatives in america.
But, just because what you have to say, might offend me or someone else, doesn't mean I get to keep you from saying it. Because you've got a right to freedom of speech and expression . That means you can say what you want, whether or not I like it, whether or not it offends me or not and no matter if I agree or disagree . No matter how stupid it might or might not be. Because I am not a leftist.
If I don't like your books, or the pictures in them, I simply won't read them.
I'm not going to attack your publishers, foundations or family because I don't like your books. That's what the left does.
And I say it's horseshit. And it Just ain't right.
Because it violates every concept of freedom of speech and expression.
I'm not going to boycott a publisher for publishing a transsexual children's book. I just ain't going to read it to my children.Last edited by Hughinn; 03-02-2021 at 12:34 PM.
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03-02-2021, 12:39 PM #15
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03-02-2021, 12:39 PM #16Banned
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Fully agree...
Things like climate change, or green energy, or Earth is a sphere, or Trump lost, or Q is a joke might offend a fair amount of people. But I can still say them.
You are free to say we are all slaves and everyone is blaming the blue collar white man or the left is an evil elitist cabal... even though I think it is offensive and pure lunacy.
But in this thread you started...
It seems like you are upset with Dr. Seuss Enterprises for making their choice on how to run their company.
Seems like you are trying to impose your beliefs on others.
There are two sides to every coin.
Perhaps you should be less imposing of your beliefs on others.Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 03-02-2021 at 12:43 PM.
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03-02-2021, 01:02 PM #17Banned
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Ever hear of the Capitol Riot?
Or the Oklahoma City bombing?
Or attacks on Mosques?
Or attacks on abortion clinics?
Or attempting to kidnap a governor?
Or plotting to start a civil war?
Or storming State Capitol buildings?
Or spreading conspiracy theories?
I can go on...
The right does shit too you know.
note: I am not saying the mainstream right wing does this shit. I am saying there is extremism on both sides.Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 03-02-2021 at 02:28 PM.
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03-02-2021, 02:33 PM #18Banned
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I am upset with them. They cancelled innocent classical children's books under pressure from political correctness mobs.
You can't tell me they didn't want to sell those books and make that money.
They just didn't want to have to deal with the leftist PC mob.
The shit has to end somewhere.
I'm all for anybody that chooses to believe differently.
I'm all against people forcing others to conform. Either by force or intimidating. And they got intimidated into canceling those books.
And that's what I'm saying isn't right.
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03-02-2021, 02:35 PM #19Banned
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I do know that.
Especially the overly religious right.
And I don't agree with that shit either.
For example, who the Fuck would tell two dudes they can't be married? Those two dudes can make that decision for themselves. Nobody else ought to have a say.
But that's just my opinion.
People want to protest abortion. Then they can protests it all they want. Assault on people is a crime though.
Conspiracy theories? People can make whatever theories they want. They can say them out loud all they want.
Bombing and terrorizing is also a crime. Just like burning and looting.
Generally, if you don't want a fight with someone, stop pushing them. A civil war takes two sides. Just like a fight. Nobody wants war except rich people who profit from it
And I consider myself more to the right than left. Obviously.Last edited by Hughinn; 03-02-2021 at 02:46 PM.
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03-02-2021, 03:24 PM #21
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/psa...g-proclamation
The article says Slo Joe cancelled Dr seus “proclamation” while former presidents Barack Hussein or Barry Soetoro (whichever he goes by) and Donald Trump included it in their “proclamation”
This cancel culture is the most ridiculous bullshit imo. And yes its liberal thing its not a conservative thing for anyone having trouble understanding. Just something else to shake my head at
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03-02-2021, 03:56 PM #22Banned
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Fuck that bullshit...
You want to talk about a cancel culture???
Let's try science...
Fucking Trumplicans cancel science at every step they take.
You know... climate change or Covid or evolution or masks or vaccines.
Hell Cuz... you thought it was all bullshit until you got sick.
Let's try President Obama...
The damn racists are so upset he became president they tried to cancel his presidency by claiming he wasn't American.
Let's try the election...
The sore ass losers were so hurt they lost to Biden they tried to cancel 81,000,000 votes.
And they sucked at canceling the votes so badly...
You know, after they killed and injured countless policemen...
That they tried to cancel their own insurrrection by blaming Antifa.
Guess they did manage to cancel Blue Lives Matter though.
How about religion?
Damn Christian Nationalist are trying like hell to cancel any religion except Trumpism.
I could go on all day with this shit...
Keep worshipping your false idol...
Attachment 180815
The left may be busy trying to "cancel" racism or sexism or whatever...
But the right is busy themselves canceling intelligence.
#Jewsishspacelasers #adrenochrome #lizardpeople #inDumpWeTrust #theBigLie #Lysol #MyPillowGuy
I seriously wish y'all we leave this petty political bullshit off the board.
You know... maybe only post about something big politically. Not every damn little fucking thing.
About Capitalism...
In which I do believe Trumplicans claim to believe...
A company chooses what it does to maximize profits.
In this case... Seuss Enterprises did what was in their best interest.
If you don't like it... too fucking bad.
Don't claim to believe in Capitalism and then cry like a baby when Capitalism works itself out.Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 03-02-2021 at 04:32 PM.
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03-02-2021, 04:17 PM #23Banned
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Ha...
And I forget the funniest one of all...
Let's take Republicans...
Trumplicans are so fucking busy spending all their time canceling any Republican that doesn't bow down to their sacred leader.
You know... they call them Rinos.
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Fucking Trumplicans are canceling their own.
Damn cannibals.
And they think only the left "cancels"...
Keep watching Fox.Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 03-02-2021 at 04:42 PM.
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03-02-2021, 04:49 PM #24Banned
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Reread your post before you accuse anyone else of pettiness dog.
Really.
Orange man bad', over and over.
The issue is the left cancelling anybody who disagrees with them. Cancel culture is owned by the left. Admit it. They make up whatever .. isms they need at any given moment. It never fails.
We're talking about the cancellation of Dr Suess for petty reasons.
Let's stick to that.
There's no reason to cancel Dr Suess. Children's books. You know it.Last edited by Hughinn; 03-02-2021 at 04:53 PM.
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03-02-2021, 04:52 PM #25Banned
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I will break it down like this...
Some people took offence to some drawings.
Some folk on this board took no offence.
A company listened to the offended people.
So some folk on the board took offence to the company because they listened to the other people.
Kinda funny that people are offended because a company choose not to be offensive.
I guess it is OK for people on this board to be offended but it isn't OK for other people to be offended.
Gotta be a term for that...
Some sort of privilege.
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03-02-2021, 04:54 PM #26Banned
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03-02-2021, 05:06 PM #27Banned
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Really? They're going to make more money by not selling books that have been Best sellers?
Listen to yourself.
They stopped selling those books because of intimidation by the leftist PC woke mob. Who, would likely call for boycotting and lawsuits and God knows what else if they didn't.
Stop pretending it was otherwise.
That's not free market capitalism. It's totalitarian mob rule.
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03-02-2021, 05:10 PM #28Banned
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Boycotts are perfectly legal. Fuck, they are protected by the First Amendment.
They are part of a free market. (lands on the consumer side, not the producer side)
If the offended wanted to boycott that is their choice.
The company would then have the choice to stop selling those 6 books or to keep selling them.
Perhaps you think consumers shouldn't have the right to boycott.
By definition:
A mob cannot be totalitarian.
Nice try though.
Boycotts are part of the free market
https://dailycollegian.com/2018/04/b...e-free-market/
Courts have recognized boycotts as having First Amendment protection under limited circumstances.
https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment...e/987/boycottsLast edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 03-02-2021 at 05:18 PM.
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03-02-2021, 06:31 PM #29
Locally the schools banned “To Kill a Mockingbird” recently. I can tell you for sure it wasn’t the left / liberals that caused that.
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You see, that's my point exactly.
Testmonsterone said it in his post at the top of this thread and put it all in perfect perspective.
Take the highly obscene, offensive (to me and many others) degenerate garbage many people call music these days. Stuff talking about wet ass pussy, fucking hoes and bitches , Cummings on young girls faces and whatever. I find that shit very offensive, Highly inappropriate , lewd, disgusting trash.
But you know what? The people that listen to it, enjoy it. You don't see me, or anyone else on the right trying to boycott the record companies that produce it, or the stores that sell it.
Because it doesn't matter if it offends me personally, because I don't have to listen to it, or buy the recordings.
The people that like it, have a right to listen to it. The people who produce and sell it, have a right to do so. And I don't have any right to tell them they can't, and in my opinion I would be wrong to threaten them to stop, or to try to ruin them economically or bully them, because they have a right to conduct their affairs and business however they want. And the people who listen to that bullshit, have a right to it. I don't think it's right for me to take it from them, just because I don't like it.
Because this is America, and it's a free country, and have respect for that principle foundation of our society if you refuse to respect anything else.
And so...I strongly disagree with the leftist assholes that think they need to cancel out Mr. Potato head, the Muppets and Dr. Suess, due to a bunch of bullshit, made up isms they blame all the worlds ills on.
And do you know why dog? Because it's bullshit. It's utterly ignorant and naive. Because if you could eliminate all of those boogeyman isms like racism and sexism or whatever the fuck you want, your not going to change shit like fatherless black children, or economic disparity and inequality of individuals, nations, peoples or families. Just like eliminating that garbage music ain't going to stop sexual deviance and degenerate behavior.
So why in the hell, would anyone give up thier personal freedom and liberty, or try to take someone else's to solve a problem, that cannot be solved by giving up or taking those liberties?
Those things, just like the idea of individual liberty are pieces of Americana. They're part of our American culture and histories
Many people enjoy them. What the left is doing is fucked up, and downright wrong dude. No liberty loving man should agree with it.
Either we have the right to live and believe what we want, or we don't. It doesn't get to be applied selectively due to individuals opinions or personal beliefs.
And i see no reason why all of us, as American men, who all presumably agree on American principles of liberty, can't agree on that.Last edited by Hughinn; 03-02-2021 at 07:30 PM.
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HELL YES, you have it underlined in red. "teachers, academics and specialists in the field as part of our review process...these are the MFer that are all democrats and want to cancel anything. Could I possibly see how the publisher could make some money off this publicity, yes. But it is right out of the liberal playbook.
And I think it's like national reading day, and without googling it I am pretty sure that it is Dr. Seuss's birthday. Come on man
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Please note:
I said Christian Nationalists.
My mom is a Christian. I don't hate her.
What is Christian nationalism?
Christian nationalism is the belief that the American nation is defined by Christianity, and that the government should take active steps to keep it that way. Popularly, Christian nationalists assert that America is and must remain a “Christian nation”—not merely as an observation about American history, but as a prescriptive program for what America must continue to be in the future. Scholars like Samuel Huntington have made a similar argument: that America is defined by its “Anglo-Protestant” past and that we will lose our identity and our freedom if we do not preserve our cultural inheritance.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct...tionalism.html
You know... these guys from the Capitol...
Attachment 180817
You know... the guys who say that Trump was chosen by Jesus to save America.
POLITICS
My Pillow Founder: Trump 'Was Chosen by God' to Save America
https://www.advocate.com/politics/20...d-save-america
Please note:
I do have a profound hatred for Trump.
Please note:
I bunch of religious zealots backing a tyrant is a dangerous thing.
There are some 4,300 religions of the world.
https://www.theregister.com/2006/10/...body_religion/
Please don't shove yours down my throat.Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 03-02-2021 at 07:31 PM.
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So the right wing doesn't boycott???
You once again are a liar.
LIST: All The Things Donald Trump Has Called On People To Boycott
https://medium.com/@GoAngelo/list-al...t-19a70da9c368
So please cut the BULLSHIT with the cancel culture only being on the left.
Say it again...
I'll call you a liar.
Again.
Your enamored golden shower idol has called for many boycotts.
I ask you...
Are you man enough to admit you were wrong?
You said the right wing doesn't boycott.
Yet here Trump calls for boycotts.
So what is it?
Extra reading:
The Official Christmas Boycott List for Evangelical Christians has Arrived. Happy Holidays!
https://www.citywatchla.com/index.ph...happy-holidays
Those righties boycott too!!!Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 03-02-2021 at 07:58 PM.
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Fucking Trumplicans cancel science at every step they take. (which science, it's a large field)
You know... climate change or Covid or evolution or masks or vaccines. - He got the vaccine, operation warp speed, and masks are useless. Dr. F had a large study, sorry it's been taken down, that showed that there was no effusiveness of mask to protect against the flu for health care workers done prior to 2009. The link is dead so I should have printed it off. But really, people do not wear them correctly and like my parents, for example, stepmom is a doctor. Wears a mask and still got covid, comes home and does not social distance from my dad and don't wear a mask at home. So they don't work like we are being to they would.
It's not called Climate change, not global warming. The Paris Deal was and is bad for the US. Our climate has gone through a lot of ice ages and warming peroids.
Let's try the election...
The sore ass losers were so hurt they lost to Biden they tried to cancel 81,000,000 votes. (really, you didn't watch the votes that night, and they stopped counting the votes, and wham, Biden wins.) States changed the voting laws without the state legislatures which is against the election laws of the states. (This is all really a mute point, Biden is the Presiden, But i didnt listen or believe what trump Said, I just happen to agree with some of the things he said. Like Stalin said, who counts the votes matters.
And they sucked at canceling the votes so badly...
You know, after they killed and injured countless policemen... this is not a fact. He did not die from the protesters. More cops have been killed by "others" than during the election
That they tried to cancel their own insurrection by blaming Antifa. - You really believe that this was an insurrection? Conservatives who have been holding weapons and ammo are going to take control of the government unarmed?
Let's try President Obama...
The damn racists are so upset he became president they tried to cancel his presidency by claiming he wasn't American. We elected a black president twice! not once but twice. We are not a racists country, PERIOD! His policies sucked. He was a typical Chicago politician. He did things that benefited him and his friends. Did not stand up for the working class. Obama care sucks! Rates went up and you could not choose your own doctor as he promised.
Keep worshipping your false idol...where did this come from? The media calling Trump supports a cult?
Thinks like that.
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