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    SLOW AND EASY is offline New Member
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    Cycle Question ???

    I'm 49 and have been working out off and on for the last 5 years. I'm 5'9" and 180lbs about 18%BF. I've been out of the gym for the last 6 months due to a shoulder problem, the doc said layoff for a while. I am thinking about starting a cycle to help get back my strength and shape up some. I was thinking about:
    25 mg Var ED
    200 mg deca WK mainly for joints
    500 mg EQ WK

    I don't plan to start until I get my diet and workouts going for at least two months. I kinow there is no magic pill, just looking for an edge.

    Please provide your suggestions, they will be greatly appreciated.
    Peace

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    If it was me I would shy away from the EQ and use a Test E or Test C for the first cycle.

    Don't forget your PCT.

    Also have you had your test levels tested?

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    47 yrs old and doing 1st cycle of 50mg of dbol ed, 175mg of sust eod, 350mg deca 2x wk. let me how your doing on yours

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    Thanks for the reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrek
    Also have you had your test levels tested?
    No I have not, but plan to when I find a good Endo.
    I plan to make my own gear since I do lab work for a living.

    I have plenty of time to get all this done once I kick my sugar habit and get my BF down before starting anything. DIET AND CARDIO.

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    Thanks, wiill do. I was not trying ti get any bigger, just reshape some and regain strength. Also I was planning to run this cycle for 12 weeks and maybe up the Var to 50mg/day. I plan to put my size on slowly mainly with the Var and EQ. I know many bros say test is the basis for all cycles, but I beleive gains can be acheived without test if you are patient and grow slowly with solid quality muscle:
    Equipoise is not the steroid that will cause enormous gains in strength and muscle mass in the shortest time. The resulting gain in body weight consists of a solid quality increase of the muscles which occurs slowly and evenly. The high quality is caused by low water retention of the substance.
    This is from www.steroid.com

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    I've been ready alot since I first posted this thread and have completely changed my thought process.
    My first cycle will be:
    test e @ 250mg/ml/wk wk 1-12
    test c @ 250mg/ml/wk wk 1-12
    EQ @ 400mg/ml/wk wk 1-12
    VAR @ 50mg/day wk 1-12
    Nolvadex @ 10mg/day wk 1-12

    PCT
    Nolvadex @20mg/day week 1
    10mg/day week 2 & 3
    clomid @300mg/day week 1
    100mg/day week 2 & 3

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    If it were me I would just run the var for 6 weeks at the end but if you have the money whatever I guess. The other thing is that orals are liver toxic. Now, with var this toxicity is questionable. I have heard conflicting reports. Personally I would err on the side of caution and just run the var 6 weeks at the end and save the rest for next time around. Also if you are an older guy and worried about your blood pressure adding some L-dex at .25 mg per day can be of great help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Columbus
    If it were me I would just run the var for 6 weeks at the end but if you have the money whatever I guess. The other thing is that orals are liver toxic. Now, with var this toxicity is questionable. I have heard conflicting reports. Personally I would err on the side of caution and just run the var 6 weeks at the end and save the rest for next time around. Also if you are an older guy and worried about your blood pressure adding some L-dex at .25 mg per day can be of great help.

    Thanks man, I'm planning to make my own as soon as I can get my hands on some powders so it should not be as expensive. I'll add the L'dex to the mix.
    How long does L'dex take to work. I just might take it if I need it. I'm 49 and BP is like 120/75, never been a problem---yet.
    peace

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