question for Kale

[ebjack]

Why do you cruise? and will an older person lose their gains if their endogenous test production is crappy?

[Kale]

I cruise because my natural Test production was on the decline. And yes an older person will lose their gains if their endogenous test production is crappy of course. Test is what is responsible for muscle mass if you dont have it then bye bye mass, the other problem for us is that when natural Test production declines then Estrogen rises which will make us fat and lethargic with low to no sex drive. Here is a pic of me now at 52, you tell me if Test and HGH are a bad idea Body Fat-Measuring Scales

[ebjack]

thanks Kale..
wished I hadn't waited so long to go to the "dark side"...

[Kale]

Your stats look pretty good dude, I wouldnt be unhappy with that

[jbarkley]

Kale, look great brother!
Ebjack, the dark side is really the dark side. It's crazy that using test and gh is looked down on by the general population, however, if a women goes through menopause estrogen replacement therapy is considered normal protocol. All we're doing is replacing something that our bodies no longer produce naturally. The proof of that is the way you'll feel after being on the "therapy" for a short time.

[gym lord]

Here is a pic of me now at 52, you tell me if Test and HGH are a bad idea Body Fat-Measuring Scales

HEY ! ! ! THAT PICTURE IS A DAMN LIE AND KALE IS A THIEF ... THAT'S A PICTURE OF ME AT 49 ... KALE STOLE MY PICTURE ! ! !

but of course i'm only kidding ... you look awesome kale, and no doubt are a magnet for big titty thai girls ...

and yup, the Dark Side is the Right Road for me, forever ... no way i'm facing my second half century without hormone levels filled to the brim, and occasionally overflowing ... cycle and cruise baby, cycle and cruise!

[gym lord]

Kale, look great brother!
Ebjack, the dark side is really the dark side. It's crazy that using test and gh is looked down on by the general population, however, if a women goes through menopause estrogen replacement therapy is considered normal protocol. All we're doing is replacing something that our bodies no longer produce naturally. The proof of that is the way you'll feel after being on the "therapy" for a short time.

amen bro ... well said and amen again ...

[shark333]

what up

[shark333]

damn kale keep show n them picts

[fbcoach]

Kale,
Not sure if this is too personal..BUT..do you still just use 100mgs test/week? Do you use any ancillaries (arimidex , HCG , HGH, etc)?
Thanks..you look in great shape bro

[Kale]

Kale,
Not sure if this is too personal..BUT..do you still just use 100mgs test/week? Do you use any ancillaries (arimidex , HCG , HGH, etc)?
Thanks..you look in great shape bro

Not to personal at all dude. I use everything you mentioned. HCG twice a week at 500IU, HGH 5 on 2 off 3IU a day and arimidex EOD 0.25mg.

I am just about to start another cycle, just waiting for the last of the gear to arrive.

[fbcoach]

Another question....I have seen where you mentioned that your test levels hover around 1000ngms/dec....correct?? When you finish your cycle, and go back to your HRT dosage (100mgs), does your test levels go back to 1000ngms?? Also, do you have any refractory period where you feel down coming off a higher dose? Thanks for the info....the cycling in itself can teach us something about how the endocrine system recovers and functions.

[Kale]

Another question....I have seen where you mentioned that your test levels hover around 1000ngms/dec....correct?? When you finish your cycle, and go back to your HRT dosage (100mgs), does your test levels go back to 1000ngms?? Also, do you have any refractory period where you feel down coming off a higher dose? Thanks for the info....the cycling in itself can teach us something about how the endocrine system recovers and functions.

Yes my levels go back to pretty much around 1000. And I never feel down comming off the higher doses but I pyramid down to the HRT dose and that may help. To be honest, apart from the strength gains and mass increases I dont feel any different when I am at 1000 or 4500.

[fbcoach]

Damn....that was a fast reply Thanks Kale. That makes me curious as to how adding a HRT dose to someone who is hypogonadal increases their sense of well-being (energy). I know it is throught the neurotransmitters, thyroid and adrenal functions, and blood sugar levels, but wouldn't these also be affected by higher dosages. Or is it just the law of diminishing returns? Again, thanks for your input.

[shark333]

yee hah . hick town.