just turned 38 and started Dbol

**trnrguy** · 05-05-2007, 09:20 PM

i just started Dbol 20mg a day, and this week i have gained about 3lb and 15-20lbs in my lifts. i plan on a cycle of sustanon mid way through this or should i just continue with Dbol and then use my clomid at end of cycle and start the sustanon at a later date. i am 5'8" 196 about 14% bf right now big guy most of muscle is in butt and thighs but arms, chest and back are coming right along.that is one of the reasons i started steroids i have been having a struggle for symmetry. any help on this would be truly appreciated.

**finny** · 05-06-2007, 01:16 PM

Since you're an adult, no offence to those 17-19 kids, I would like to know how much research you have done before starting your d-bol.

I'm a newbie myself, but I read and read and read...

**trnrguy** · 05-06-2007, 02:22 PM

most of research was regarding the effects on the liver long term because of some of the toxic Dbol side effects. it seems not to be that bad in the dosages i am using but a member on here said i should use it with a testosterone and i have read that but nowhere did it say you couldnt use it by itself.

**finny** · 05-06-2007, 04:58 PM

The reason I asked, there are so many much better choices for a cycle and starting with only d-bol is not the greatest idea.

In your case, I would've run them at the same time. Myself, I wouldn't use sustanon as it is a 4 ester aas (more things to plan when injecting) and I would've just picked either enanthate or cypionate version.

I would do d-bol for 4 weeks and sustanon for 12. Then follow with proper PCT.

It's very hard to keep gains from d-bol. In a lot of cases, it is mostly water as well. With your bf levels, running d-bol only is a poor choice. It won't lean you out and if your diet is not 100% you will look bloated.

**trnrguy** · 05-06-2007, 05:19 PM

thx for the info i used dbol because i ordered some roids through the mail and dbol got to me the other test enathate was seized. so i am now in a frantic search to find the appropriate substitutions. i am not to woried about keeping the gains at this point,i am just experimenting and trying to perfect and gain knowledge about my body. i am also taking bcaa's and efa's alomg with a multivitamin and lecithin along with appropriate dietary choices. i do cardio and sweat like a big dog so i realize the water retention has set in, not so worried about being lean, i like being thick, but just with my luck of the draw with customs this is where i stand, i also have some nolvidex coming with test enathat in next shipment, nolvidex will help with water retention right? btw what is so complicated about sustanon ?

**sonar1234** · 05-06-2007, 06:24 PM

Back in 1999 when i was 27 i did some d-bol i had the worst headacks and liver pains.

I had to stop the whole thing after 2 weeks.

I did make some great gains in strenght.