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    41 & have some questions.

    So here's the deal. I am 41, 5'11, 188, 12-14%bf. Did my first cycle recently, and it was pretty messed up. Started with eq and then added winny-went of half cocked, I know, already deal with that issue. Anyway, into pct now, and just this last weekend my bp hit the roof. I have been taking nitric also, and know that can be adding to the problem. Went to dr yesterday, gave me something to bring the pressure down, gonna do bloodwork, and then see him again next week. Here is the question. I was planning on another cycle Test E and possibly D-bol as a kick, beginning of December. I have read on this formum many guys who have mentioned how awesome the test cycle was. My concern is that did you crash when you came off and ran pct, or where things a lot more level. After dealing with all that I am and have with the screwed up cycle, I don't know if I even want to run the risk of dealing with the crap again running a test cycle. I'd be really interested in hearing some of your experiences while on in terms of gains, strength increases, etc, and then what you dealt with when you went off.

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    I was 46 last year and ran my first cycle, Test E. and Eq.....and it went very well. Just did the Anthony Roberts PCT.
    Personally from what I've read a Test only cycle would be good for the 1st cycle but that is one that some dispute.

    I crashed a little but it did not last long, I added it some Caber with the PCT I'm on right now and am having no problems. IMO, as you probably already know that EQ. and Winny was not a good cycle for you.
    Good luck.

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    PS----I gained 20lbs on the first and kept a solid 15.

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    What is Caber? And what are you doing as far as pct? I am currently doing nolva and aromasin . When you say you crashed a little, what did you experience, how long after your last shot, and how long did it last?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2bshredded
    I was 46 last year and ran my first cycle, Test E. and Eq.....and it went very well. Just did the Anthony Roberts PCT.
    Personally from what I've read a Test only cycle would be good for the 1st cycle but that is one that some dispute.

    I crashed a little but it did not last long, I added it some Caber with the PCT I'm on right now and am having no problems. IMO, as you probably already know that EQ. and Winny was not a good cycle for you.
    Good luck.

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    Look in the PCT section for Anthony Roberts PCT.....It'sbasically what you're doing now less HCG and Vit. E. I recovered well from that, balls came back to size libido came back after lagging for a week.
    The second cycle which included Test Prop/Oxandrolone and dbol ....using bascically the same PCT didn't seem to work as well.....I had no libido for several weeks. This I'd say started happening about a week after my last prop shot.

    Cabergoline
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    Cabergoline
    Systematic (IUPAC) name
    N-[3-(Dimethylamino)propyl]-N-[(ethylamino)carbonyl]- 6-(2-propenyl)-8g-ergoline-8-carboxamide
    or
    1-[(6-allylergolin8ß-yl)- carbonyl]-1- [3-(dimethylamino)propyl]-3-ethylurea
    Identifiers
    CAS number 81409-90-7
    ATC code G02CB03 N04BC06
    PubChem 54746
    DrugBank APRD00836
    Chemical data
    Formula C26H37N5O2
    Mol. mass 451.604 g/mol
    Pharmacokinetic data
    Bioavailability First-pass effect seen; absolute bioavailability unknown
    Protein binding Moderately bound (40% to 42%); concentration- independent
    Metabolism Hepatic, predominately via hydrolysis of the acylurea bond or the urea moiety
    Half life 63-69 hours (estimated)
    Excretion Urine (22%), feces (60%)
    Therapeutic considerations
    Pregnancy cat. C(US)

    Legal status ℞-only(US)

    Routes Oral
    Cabergoline (brand names Dostinex® and Cabaser®), a lysergic acid amide derivative, is a potent dopamine receptor agonist on D2 receptors.[1] It also acts on dopamine receptors in lactophilic hypothalamus cells to suppress prolactin production in the pituitary gland. It is frequently used as a second-line agent in the management of prolactinomas when bromocriptine is ineffective.

    This helped with my libido on my last cycle. I'm going to wait another 6 months before I do the next cycle....I've done (3) since Aprilof 06.
    This has been my experience--right or wrong.....I'm still learning.

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    PS---Do a search on google for tons more info on Caber.

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    Thanks for the info, I will look up the stuff on Caber. I will say though, I haven't noticed the balls shrinking and sex drive decrease. As I mentioned, my pb is through the freakin roof, I feel like crap, depressed, etc. Just seems really harsh especially with pct. Ever experience any of this, or knew someone that did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by browboy
    Thanks for the info, I will look up the stuff on Caber. I will say though, I haven't noticed the balls shrinking and sex drive decrease. As I mentioned, my pb is through the freakin roof, I feel like crap, depressed, etc. Just seems really harsh especially with pct. Ever experience any of this, or knew someone that did?
    Hi Brow,

    Yep some people get those emotional sides on pct..

    Its referred to as a PCT bitch .. lol

    Clomid seems to make emotional sides more prominent ( i know your not using clomid ) ..

    ALSO

    Keep an eye on your Blood pressure ....

    Merc.

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