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  1. #1
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    3rd Cycle recommendation

    Hi,

    Have in the last 11 months done two Novice I - cycles as descibed in this forum.
    Week Testosterone (Cypionate or Enanthate) and Dianabol
    1 400 mgs 20 mgs/day
    2 400 mgs 20 mgs/day
    3 400 mgs 20 mgs/day
    3 400 mgs 20 mgs/day
    4 400 mgs 20 mgs/day
    5 400 mgs
    6 400 mgs
    7 400 mgs
    8 400 mgs
    9 400 mgs
    10 400 mgs
    11 400 mgs
    12 400 mgs
    PCT a combination of Clomid and Nolva.

    Recommendation for a 3rd cycle?

    I'm 53 86kg 180cm, 8.5%BF

    /Marre

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    How about giving Deca a try

    Week 1-5 Dbol 40mg ED
    Week 1-12 Test E 500mg 250mg twice a week on Mon and Thurs
    Week 1-10 Deca 400mg 200mg twice a week on Mon and Thurs

    mix the Deca and the Test E in the same shot

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    Kale, Training 6 days aweek with 20min cardio every second day. What kind of gains can be expected with what you suggest. PCT with comb of clomid and nolva enough?

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    Gains will depend a lot on diet more than anything. What does that look like ?

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    Diet

    Yes I think diet is the weak spot. I'm eating every 3rd hour, but I do not measure exactly what I'm eating.

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    Here is a good diet to follow

    Meal 1: Pro/Carb

    8 Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein, 1 cup oatmeal

    50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fat



    Meal 2: Pro/Fat

    Lean Ground Beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, green veggies

    55g protein / 2g carbs / 20g fat



    Meal 3: Pro/Carb

    Chicken Breast, 1 and a half cup Brown Rice

    55g protein / 64g carbs / 3g Fat
    **Disclaimer: Meal 3 can be a pro/fat meal if you are ultra sensitive to carb intake.


    Meal 4: Pro/Fat

    2 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies

    60g protein / 2g carbs / 13g Fat



    Workout


    Meal 5: PWO Nutrition

    2 Scoops Whey Protein / 80g of Dextrose

    40g protein / 80g carbs / 0g fat



    Meal 6: PPWO

    Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, ½ cup Brown Rice (Measured Uncooked)

    50g protein / 70g carbs / 3g fat



    Meal 7: Pro/Fat

    Lean Protein of your choice, 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
    50g protein / 5g carbs / 18g fat



    Meal 8: Before Bed

    3 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil

    60g protein / 3g carbs / 21g Fat


    That turns into approximately 420 grams protein, 250 grams Carbs, and 83 grams of fat. This is roughly 3500 calories

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    Water retention

    Efter the two first cycles I losst around 8kg in the first 2 months after PCT.
    Anything else that can be done to avoid water retension.

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    Hi Kale,

    I only have Test Enanthate and Diabol-10 / Danabol DS available for a 12 weeks cycle.
    (same as my first and second cycles)
    Should I go for it or wait until I find a way of getting Deca?

    /Marre

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