3rd cycle.help please

**torus-debul** · 01-02-2004, 02:25 PM

hi guys,nice to find a site 4us elder folks.quick info about yours truly.im 37yrs old,5-6",1801bs,around 14% bf.training on/off 4 15yrs last 3 serious.taken 2 cycles of d-bol,last cycle 8 months ago.1st at 23yrs.ive got 12 2ml norma deca ,8 organon sus250,20 proviron tabs,300 winny tabs,60 nolva.gonna run cyc 4 8 wks@ wk1 4ml deca 2 shots. wks 2 3 and 4 2ml deca & 1ml sus250.wks 5 6 7 8 as above but with 35mg winny ed.gonna take nolva ed at 20mg ,just a little confused when to take proviron.also got milk thistle tabs.any help greatly appreciated.cheers

**iron4life79** · 01-02-2004, 02:53 PM

hey bro,
1st, welcome to the board. theres a lot of good guys and gals here willing to help you out.

on to your cycle.........
to be honest, i dont like it. theres no need to taper anything, and imho, its a waste of time and gear. you dont really have enough sust to run it properly, and i wouldnt taper the deca at all. since you have 3 cycles under your belt, youre at least used to injecting, correct? my suggestion would be to run something like this:

dbol 30mg ed weeks 1-4
test enan 400-600mg/week weeks 1-11
deca 400mg/week weeks 1-10

start your clomid 2 weeks after your last shot of test, and make sure you have an anti-e handy. if youre planning on using proviron run 25-50mg ed throughout your cycle, and up to and through your clomid therapy.

hope this helps.........

peace I4L

**torus-debul** · 01-02-2004, 04:19 PM

hello mate thanx 4 replying.my 2 previous cycles were oral only.basically looking 4 cycle 4 mass and conditioning.i can get more sus if need be.i know years ago cycles were tapered,but times change.thanx 4 great advice

**iron4life79** · 01-02-2004, 06:05 PM

well,
sust needs to be run eod preferably, and at the very least every 3rd day.

the tapering stuff kind of fell out of favor a while back, based on results and personal experiences. i think guys found that even though they tapered off, the post cycle therapy was still needed, and tapering did nothing to alleviate this.

if youve never injected before, i would suggest some strong research before you attempt to do this. better to err on the side of safety..........you know?

feel free to drop me a pm if you have any questions bro.

peace I4L

**johnsomebody** · 01-02-2004, 07:33 PM

Yeah bro, definitely take some time and surf around and research if you haven't done a lot of it already. There are heaping mounds of info out there, and the "search" button, if you aren't in the habit of using it, is, I think, your best tool here.

Good luck!