Nolva does not increase test levels

**tallyjuice** · 02-23-2006, 05:53 PM

Any recent studies saying that is does?

**ShakeDatMonKey** · 02-24-2006, 09:41 PM

bump

**tallyjuice** · 02-25-2006, 08:37 PM

bump

**Mike Dura** · 02-25-2006, 08:46 PM

In the profile here on Nolva, it says it does increase endogenous test. Just not as much as clomid. Is that accurate?

**powerliftmike** · 02-26-2006, 10:20 AM

The administration of tamoxifen, 20 mg/day for 10 days, to normal males produced a moderate increase in luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), testosterone, and estradiol levels, comparable to the effect of 150 mg of clomiphene citrate (Clomid). However, whereas Clomid produced a decrease in the LH response to LH-releasing hormone (LHRH), no such effect was seen after the administration of tamoxifen. In fact, prolonged treatment (6 weeks) with tamoxifen significantly increased the LH response to LHRL. Treatment of patients with "idiopathic" oligospermia for 6 to 9 months resulted in a significant increase in gonadotropin, testosterone, and estradiol levels. A significant increase in sperm density was observed only in subjects with oligospermia below 20 X 10(6)/ml and normal basal FSH levels. When basal FSH levels were increased or oligospermia was moderate (greater than 20 X 10(6)/ml); no effect on sperm density was seen. As sperm density increased, FSH levels decreased, suggesting an inhibin effect. Sperm motility was not improved by tamoxifen treatment. In five boys with delayed puberty, tamoxifen treatment appeared to activate the pituitary-gonadal axis and pubertal development.

My source:

Hormonal effects of an antiestrogen, tamoxifen , in normal and oligospermic men.
Vermeulen A, Comhaire F.
1978 Mar;29(3):320-7.

**Mike Dura** · 02-26-2006, 11:58 AM

Nice post. Thanks.

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

My source:

**tallyjuice** · 02-27-2006, 04:32 PM

good man....but that's from 1978. Anything newer?

**The Moose** · 02-27-2006, 05:29 PM

run a few searches on it, i'm sure you'll find sumthing tthat states otherwise, i use during cycles od D-bol or anything that aromotizes as it helps ter test battle with the rising estrogen levels, i wudn't reccomend it as PCT, definately use clomids