Confused on my PCT....

[Latino~Heat]

**Currently on wk 3 of my cycle...
Weeks 1-14 TEST ENANTHATE 500mgs
weeks 1-13 EQ 400mgs
weeks 9-14 Winny 50mgs Zambons

Should I just do below PCT, or the lowest one?
PCT: BEGINS ON WK 16
1st suggestion: only Nolva
Nolvadex
Week 1 40mg ED wk 16
week 2 20mg ED wk 17
week 3 20mg ED wk 18
week 4 10mg ED wk 19
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2nd Suggestion
day1-27 100mg clomid ed
Week 1 40mg ED Nolva
week 2 20mg ED Nolva
week 3 20mg ED Nolva
week 4 10mg ED Nolva
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thanks bros...on suggestion.

L~H

[vicmack777]

either one would work fine

I would ran that Winny differently though. Weeks 11-16

[smokethedays]

ofcourse the 2nd. Nolvadex alone is pretty weak

[smokethedays]

but start Clomid with a higher dose, i'd say 200 mg for the 1st 2 days then 100 for the next 3 days then 50 for the rest of the 27 days.

[vicmack777]

ofcourse the 2nd. Nolvadex alone is pretty weak

Prove that

[ascendant]

ofcourse the 2nd. Nolvadex alone is pretty weak

first, nolva at 20mg raises test levels as much as 150mg of clomid. second, nolva is a far better anti-e than clomid, which makes it a better choice as opposed to clomid. third, if nolva is so weak, why is that the main foundation (if not the entirety) of almost all pct? yes, i know plenty of people who have used only nolva for their pct and came out fine.

finally, i have yet to see any evidence that the test boosting effects of clomid and nolva are synergistic, so there is no justification as to taking both together. that on top of what i've already indicated shows there's no need to add clomid to the nolva.

if anything, i'd add some hcg for some extra test boostage. if you feel a need for some extra anti-e on top of nolva, arimidex would be a far superior choice in comparison to clomid.

[keith hackney]

maybe nolva alone is enough, maybe using them together is no better than using nolva alone. but these are maybes. theres so much debate about this so i just play it safe and use both.

[juiceboxxx]

I would run Clomid=2nd

[ascendant]

maybe nolva alone is enough, maybe using them together is no better than using nolva alone. but these are maybes. theres so much debate about this so i just play it safe and use both.

but how is taking two things instead of one "safer"? i don't think popping more pills than necessary is "safer".

what's safer, making absolutely sure you don't get gyno (which you could most likely get rid of with some letro anyway) by popping extra anti-e's that affect your bodies hormonal balance, or taking the minimum that should be required, pumping less hormones into your body? you be the judge, but i'd prefer less pills as what is "safer" here.

as for what you're considering as "maybe's", these are not maybes. though they are speculative, they come from some of the top researchers you'll find around here trying to keep on top of this stuff so you guys don't mess yourselves up by pumping yourselves full of things that you don't need to.

popping more drugs should never be seen as the "safer" method, and i can hardly believe anyone would think so.

the safer method here in my opinion would be to do the nolva but keep a stronger anti-e on hand (ex arimidex, aromasin, letro) in case gyno problems arise. that's the safest method i can think of.

[Killzone]

will the nova not stop the gyno in most cases