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    SD Cycle - Puffy Nips - Need advice

    18 days into a 4 week SD cycle and acne is starting to kick in. Also, I noticed my nips are a bit "puffy" looking. I have some tamox on hand for PCT.

    Question #1 - should I take the tamox now (@ 20/40mg ED) or do I need something like Letro?

    Question #2 - are their any research chemicals available for my goldfish that will help with acne?

    Thanks,
    /DJ

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    no help on this one?

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    I have heard that B5 vitamin has been effective with acne controll. you can get this from any health store. not too sure on your other question though..hope this helps..

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    i dunno bout b5, but B6 may help with those titties, and YES, get on the tamox NOW.

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    YES! start taking the tamox asap 20mg ed throughout the cycle. Puffy nips are a strong indication of oncoming gyno so stop it whilst you still can!!BTW there are certain "research chemicals" for getting rid of your "mice's" acne.

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    all you need to know about B5 Vitamin

    hope this helps for ya man!!

    Dosage
    First off, the thing that irks most people is the very high dosage that is needed of B5. In Dr. Lit-Hung Leung's study the dosage that was mainly used is 10 grams. This is ideally how much you should take to get the best results. However, do not begin taking 10 grams right away. Your body needs to get used to the high intake of B5.

    Since you will be taking 10 grams a day, it is best to buy Vitamin B5 in capsules that are 500mg each. 1000mg (milligrams) is equal to 1g (gram). Therefore, 2 pills is 1 gram.

    -For the first 3 days, you will want to take a dosage of 5 grams a day. This is a total of 10 pills a day. It is good to have it spread out throughout the day, so it might be good to take 5 pills in the morning, and 5 pills at night.
    -When the 3 days are up, you will be moving up the full 10 gram dosage. This will mean 20 pills a day. Again, you will want to have a steady supply of B5 throughout the day, so taking it in intervals is important. You will be taking 5 pills, 4 times a day. It is very key to be as consistent as you can.
    -Keep taking the vitamin B5 for 3 months. I saw results after the 1st week, some people see first results after 2 weeks. After 3 months you should hopefully have clear skin. Make sure you take the b5 consistenly and EVERY DAY for 3 months. (Note: Some people have an initial breakout. This can be caused from pre-existing pimples that are just pushing through. But keep with it, it WILL help you.)
    -After your acne has finally cleared up, you will still want to continue taking B5, but not in such high doses. Maybe drop down to 5 grams a day. If you get more acne, increase your dosage immediately, and then adjust to a dosage where you do not break out. Overtime you can keep decreasing.
    -Another point I would like to mention is to make sure you take vitamin B complex vitamins. Taking this much vitamin b5 might cause a deficiency in the other b vitamins. I just take 1 pill of the complex twice a day.

    Possible Side Effects
    The good thing about B5 is that it doesn't really have many side effects. Here is what most people have reported:

    -Stomach irritation
    -Mild or severe diarrhea
    -Frequent bathroom visits
    -Hairloss (rare) Some cases on message boards have reported hair loss but it isn't something I would worry about, and it definetly shouldn't keep you from taking B5.
    -Increased appetite (I seem to always be hungry, I am eating lots more than I ever have before)
    -Chapped lips

    Personally, I had some stomach grumbling for the first few days. I went poop frequently, and farted a lot. But this pretty much went away after 5 days. It is VERY GOOD to take your B5 with food. This will minimize diarrhea or stomach troubles.

    B5 is water-soluble, so it is impossible to overdose on it. It is very, very safe. I read that it might not be the best idea to take it while pregnant or breast feeding.

    How it works
    Basically what the high doses of B5 do is create high amounts of Coenzyme-A. People with acne are lacking in the metabolism of fats. This is because they do not have enough Coenzyme-A in the body. The fats do not break down, but get deposited in your sebaceous (oil) glands and get secreted as sebum (oil). The p.acne bacteria feeds off of this sebum, and creates acne.

    With all of this extra Coenzyme-A, all these fats can be broken down, and you do not have oily skin. Since you have a minimal amount of oil on your skin, no acne is produced (Hurray). Accutane also minimizes oil production, but it does so by shrinking your oil glands. The pantothenic acid doesn't need to shrink your oil glands, because it causes there to not be oil there in the first place. An extra bonus from pantothenic acid (B5) is that is makes your pores smaller. This results in making your skin smooth and good looking.

    Where to get it
    This is a department that some people have trouble in. You probably won't find it in super markets, or stores like CVS. You will need to find it in shops that are specialized in drugs or vitamins. This means stores like GNC, Vitamin Shoppe, etc. I personally get it from a local Vitamin Shoppe. Many times it will not be under the name B5, but Pantothenic Acid. Here is a Vitamin Shoppe link of what their brand looks like. You can order it on their site if you want too. Note how it has 500mg capsules, and there are 300 of them. Make sure you buy a lot because they get used up quickly. Many people do not like the price, but it's worth it to get rid of your acne. So KEEP AT IT, clear skin is just around the corner.

    Useful Links
    http://www.clearskin.net/viewtopic.php?t=1907
    http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3f978/B5.html
    http://b5foracne.vze.com/
    http://www.freewebs.com/krg/b5.html
    http://www.b5supplements.com/General...e-Prevent.html
    http://gmuntz.tripod.com/b5.html

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    Letro is a way better option for this than Nolvadex bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StateChamp
    hope this helps for ya man!!

    Dosage
    First off, the thing that irks most people is the very high dosage that is needed of B5. In Dr. Lit-Hung Leung's study the dosage that was mainly used is 10 grams. This is ideally how much you should take to get the best results. However, do not begin taking 10 grams right away. Your body needs to get used to the high intake of B5.

    Since you will be taking 10 grams a day, it is best to buy Vitamin B5 in capsules that are 500mg each. 1000mg (milligrams) is equal to 1g (gram). Therefore, 2 pills is 1 gram.

    -For the first 3 days, you will want to take a dosage of 5 grams a day. This is a total of 10 pills a day. It is good to have it spread out throughout the day, so it might be good to take 5 pills in the morning, and 5 pills at night.
    -When the 3 days are up, you will be moving up the full 10 gram dosage. This will mean 20 pills a day. Again, you will want to have a steady supply of B5 throughout the day, so taking it in intervals is important. You will be taking 5 pills, 4 times a day. It is very key to be as consistent as you can.
    -Keep taking the vitamin B5 for 3 months. I saw results after the 1st week, some people see first results after 2 weeks. After 3 months you should hopefully have clear skin. Make sure you take the b5 consistenly and EVERY DAY for 3 months. (Note: Some people have an initial breakout. This can be caused from pre-existing pimples that are just pushing through. But keep with it, it WILL help you.)
    -After your acne has finally cleared up, you will still want to continue taking B5, but not in such high doses. Maybe drop down to 5 grams a day. If you get more acne, increase your dosage immediately, and then adjust to a dosage where you do not break out. Overtime you can keep decreasing.
    -Another point I would like to mention is to make sure you take vitamin B complex vitamins. Taking this much vitamin b5 might cause a deficiency in the other b vitamins. I just take 1 pill of the complex twice a day.

    Possible Side Effects
    The good thing about B5 is that it doesn't really have many side effects. Here is what most people have reported:

    -Stomach irritation
    -Mild or severe diarrhea
    -Frequent bathroom visits
    -Hairloss (rare) Some cases on message boards have reported hair loss but it isn't something I would worry about, and it definetly shouldn't keep you from taking B5.
    -Increased appetite (I seem to always be hungry, I am eating lots more than I ever have before)
    -Chapped lips

    Personally, I had some stomach grumbling for the first few days. I went poop frequently, and farted a lot. But this pretty much went away after 5 days. It is VERY GOOD to take your B5 with food. This will minimize diarrhea or stomach troubles.

    B5 is water-soluble, so it is impossible to overdose on it. It is very, very safe. I read that it might not be the best idea to take it while pregnant or breast feeding.

    How it works
    Basically what the high doses of B5 do is create high amounts of Coenzyme-A. People with acne are lacking in the metabolism of fats. This is because they do not have enough Coenzyme-A in the body. The fats do not break down, but get deposited in your sebaceous (oil) glands and get secreted as sebum (oil). The p.acne bacteria feeds off of this sebum, and creates acne.

    With all of this extra Coenzyme-A, all these fats can be broken down, and you do not have oily skin. Since you have a minimal amount of oil on your skin, no acne is produced (Hurray). Accutane also minimizes oil production, but it does so by shrinking your oil glands. The pantothenic acid doesn't need to shrink your oil glands, because it causes there to not be oil there in the first place. An extra bonus from pantothenic acid (B5) is that is makes your pores smaller. This results in making your skin smooth and good looking.

    Where to get it
    This is a department that some people have trouble in. You probably won't find it in super markets, or stores like CVS. You will need to find it in shops that are specialized in drugs or vitamins. This means stores like GNC, Vitamin Shoppe, etc. I personally get it from a local Vitamin Shoppe. Many times it will not be under the name B5, but Pantothenic Acid. Here is a Vitamin Shoppe link of what their brand looks like. You can order it on their site if you want too. Note how it has 500mg capsules, and there are 300 of them. Make sure you buy a lot because they get used up quickly. Many people do not like the price, but it's worth it to get rid of your acne. So KEEP AT IT, clear skin is just around the corner.

    Useful Links
    http://www.clearskin.net/viewtopic.php?t=1907
    http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3f978/B5.html
    http://b5foracne.vze.com/
    http://www.freewebs.com/krg/b5.html
    http://www.b5supplements.com/General...e-Prevent.html
    http://gmuntz.tripod.com/b5.html

    Interesting Bro, you did some homework on this one!

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    i did, this is one of my biggest concerns since iam so prone to acne just trying to help a brother out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StateChamp
    i did, this is one of my biggest concerns since iam so prone to acne just trying to help a brother out.

    You rock! Thanks for the help.

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    Letro is the fighter for gyno, it is Aromatase Inhibitor (AI), and if you are getting sore and puffy nips, I recommend you start eatin'em like skittles.

    read pct forum and (not OR!):

    Letro: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199826

    Tamox: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199821

    HCG: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199847


    Letro is an excellent drug against Gyno, it has shown to even reduce them and restore previous condition (gyno-free)

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