Tongkat Ali or just wait

[edgarr]

I did a SD cycle of 20/20/30/40 and I am now 12 days into my PCT of 100mg clomid ED and 20 mg of nolva ED. I was planning on cutting it down to 50 and 10 for the next 2 weeks?? My sex drive is still down. It is getting better but no where near what it was before. I am thinking about adding tongkat or maybe liquidex or should I wait til I am completely done with PCT and see where I am? Or have you guys heard of this:

Ejaculoid Proprietary Blend 462.5mg
-Maca Root 4:1 Extract
-Tribulus Terrestris Extract 40% Saponins
-Epimedium Sagittatum Extract 4:1 (Bark)
-Yohimbe Extract (Bark) (8% Alkaloids)
-Gaba
-Eurycoma Longifolia (Long Jack Root) 20:1 Extract
-Cnidium Monnier Extract (Fruit) 4:1 Extract

Other Ingredients:
Gelatin, maltodextrin, microcrystalline cellulose, silicon dioxide, croscarmellose sodium, stearic acid, magnesium stearate, fd&c blue #1, fd&c red #3.

Directions: Take one capsule, one or two times a day. Do not exceed 2 capsules per day.

[Papi93]

Try the tongkat ali at 800-1200mg ED.

Leave the liquidex for after PCT. SD can have a negative effect on your blood lipids. The liquidex might make this worse by suppressing too much estrogen. Run the liquidex, after PCT, at 0.5mg ED for 4 weeks. This will nearly double your test levels.

[edgarr]

does anyone know of a good website/place to order tongkat from?

[Logan13]

does anyone know of a good website/place to order tongkat from?

Just go to GNC, it costs around $39. Otherwise, type Red Kat into google and you will find many online stores that have it. The stuff does help.

[Logan13]

Try the tongkat ali at 800-1200mg ED.

Leave the liquidex for after PCT. SD can have a negative effect on your blood lipids. The liquidex might make this worse by suppressing too much estrogen. Run the liquidex, after PCT, at 0.5mg ED for 4 weeks. This will nearly double your test levels.

good post, papi

[Papi93]

good post, papi

Thanks Logan. Are you a member at anabolic-research?

[Logan13]

Thanks Logan. Are you a member at anabolic-research?

I have been, but not been on for a while.

[Papi93]

I have been, but not been on for a while.

That's what I thought. Hope to see you there again.

[stuball]

I heard tong kat, and tribulus can cause kidney stones if taken on a regular basis.. And so does Viagra, i wonder, if they have anything in common ???

[Papi93]

I heard tong kat, and tribulus can cause kidney stones if taken on a regular basis.. And so does Viagra, i wonder, if they have anything in common ???

Can you post a link to where you found that information?

[stuball]

Can you post a link to where you found that information?

I got that info from my friend, and he's a doctor, the funny thing is i was asking him about Trib, and Red Kat, then he told they could cause kidney stones, at the same time my friend was getting treated for kidney stones, from the same doctor ( our friend ) But i guess he didnt tell me about my friend due to confidetiality, im gonna call and find out more..And bust his balls..

[BG]

I had great results from 400mg tonkat and dhea.(along with pct)

[BITTAPART2]

arimidex after pct huh? i am taking it currently at .25mg ED nolva 20mg ED and clomid 100mg ED . i was going to wait util after pct to run tongkat again LOL

[Papi93]

arimidex after pct huh? i am taking it currently at .25mg ED nolva 20mg ED and clomid 100mg ED . i was going to wait util after pct to run tongkat again LOL

If you aren't running something that is very harsh to your lipid profiles, you can include arimidex in your PCT. The clomid/nolva combo could help counteract any negative effects from the arimidex. I would just run the tongkat ali if you have libido issues.

[Papi93]

I had great results from 400mg tonkat and dhea.(along with pct)

Did you take the dhea after seeing Bryan2's? What was your dosage?

[Papi93]

I got that info from my friend, and he's a doctor, the funny thing is i was asking him about Trib, and Red Kat, then he told they could cause kidney stones, at the same time my friend was getting treated for kidney stones, from the same doctor ( our friend ) But i guess he didnt tell me about my friend due to confidetiality, im gonna call and find out more..And bust his balls..

Bust away! I would like to know why he said this.

[edgarr]

I finally got my Red Kat. It suggest that I take 2 pills in the AM and 2 pills 8 hours after that and to cycle 5 on 2 off days. Should I follow this or try something else. By the way my sex drive is creeping back!

[Papi93]

I finally got my Red Kat. It suggest that I take 2 pills in the AM and 2 pills 8 hours after that and to cycle 5 on 2 off days. Should I follow this or try something else. By the way my sex drive is creeping back!

Just start with the recommended dosage and scheduling. If you do not experience good results start taking it everyday of the week.

[MoneyAddyct]

What exactly are the potential "results" of tongkat ali?

[Defconx3]

It binds to SHBG, freeing up test from hormone binding gloubulin which increases your free test. In addition it is also thought to behave somewhat like LH, increasing test production, although without causing inhibition.

[Papi93]

What exactly are the potential "results" of tongkat ali?

I have a thread on it at anabolic-research.com (another AR site). Go to the supplement forum (or PCT forum) and there is a ton of information on it there.

[edgarr]

What exactly are the potential "results" of tongkat ali?

My libido is climbling back to normal after one week. Don't know if this is normal but while on I have the best sex dreams. I feel 17 again!

[MoneyAddyct]

Papi: I read that it's main purpose is really to be used post-cycle. Are there benefits to using it off-cycle as well?

[Papi93]

Papi: I read that it's main purpose is really to be used post-cycle. Are there benefits to using it off-cycle as well?

It's a good addition to PCT for libido purposes. As far as off-cycle, I would go with arimidex at 0.5mg ED for 4 weeks and that will nearly double your test levels. You could use tongkat ali to keep your libido high, off-cycle.