Help nailing down PCT

**lowt2** · 02-09-2007, 11:07 PM

I am planning a Test E/ deca first cycle... possibly adding winny late in. The question is PCT. I have seen/ read so much conflicting info on PCT. Use an AI to reduce estrogen/ don't because of the lipid problems. Some say use HCG ... etc. So I have nolva at this point that I would like to run. I have seen some run nolva through the cycle and I can see both ups and downs. Some research says gains are compromised, but it would also reduce the risk of some sides. Here are my questions:

1. Should I run nolva through the cycle, if so what dosage (thinking 10 or 20mg)
2. If I run nolva through the cycle can I use it for pct as well, maybe bump up dosage (maybe from 10mg to 20mg)?
3. Clomid and Nolva are similar compounds and both SERMs, but some say they target different areas. Isthere a final word on whether they are redundant or in fact synergistic?
4. Should AI's be used during pct?
5. I know this is a crap shoot, but what is the preferred pct (I would prefer limiting the number of compounds but will do what I need to)?

I have done all the research I can find but everything new I read contradicts the last. I'm sure everyone runs in to these problems and this is a personal opinion issue but I'm trying to nail down what will work for me.

Stats- 215lbs 18% 22yo training for 6 years, right should surgery 2 years ago with only occasional limitations.

**Mrbaseball** · 02-10-2007, 01:19 AM

IMO I wouldnt run any AI's or Serm's during the cycle unless I had to. You may want to have some letro on hand in case of gyno, run it until it subsides then go to a low dose Nolva to help control it the remainder of the cycle.

You can still run Nolva pct, and yes AI's can be used pct as well

I dont think your going to find a "preferred pct" as everyone has their own preferences, likes, dislikes, what works and doesnt work for them individually. You may have to go with a suggested pct and find out what works for you.

Good luck, and maybe some more exp can help you out with the rest of your questions.

**lowt2** · 02-10-2007, 06:38 AM

Would nolva/ arimidex be a sufficient pct? Is an all oral pct as hard on the liver as an all oral cycle? Is it good to step down thepct if it's just an AI and an SERM? Thanks for the help.

**Mrbaseball** · 02-10-2007, 01:18 PM

You could run arimidex and nolva both pct, its not like running two aas orals by any means. You will have to watch the cholesterol tho. I would gradually step the doses down week to week. Its esier for your body to adjust while stepping down.

**lowt2** · 02-10-2007, 10:50 PM

so 20mg/ day nolva and 1mg/ day arimidex for 2 weeks, then half that for 2 weeks would suffice?

**JJP480** · 02-11-2007, 05:24 PM

Anthony Robert's PCT. It works very well.

**dupa95** · 02-12-2007, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by lowt2

I am planning a Test E/ deca first cycle... possibly adding winny late in. The question is PCT. I have seen/ read so much conflicting info on PCT. Use an AI to reduce estrogen/ don't because of the lipid problems. Some say use HCG ... etc. So I have nolva at this point that I would like to run. I have seen some run nolva through the cycle and I can see both ups and downs. Some research says gains are compromised, but it would also reduce the risk of some sides. Here are my questions:

1. Should I run nolva through the cycle, if so what dosage (thinking 10 or 20mg)
2. If I run nolva through the cycle can I use it for pct as well, maybe bump up dosage (maybe from 10mg to 20mg)?
3. Clomid and Nolva are similar compounds and both SERMs, but some say they target different areas. Isthere a final word on whether they are redundant or in fact synergistic?
4. Should AI's be used during pct?
5. I know this is a crap shoot, but what is the preferred pct (I would prefer limiting the number of compounds but will do what I need to)?

I have done all the research I can find but everything new I read contradicts the last. I'm sure everyone runs in to these problems and this is a personal opinion issue but I'm trying to nail down what will work for me.

Stats- 215lbs 18% 22yo training for 6 years, right should surgery 2 years ago with only occasional limitations.

If this is your first cycle most suggest running one compound for 12 wks. so you can get a feel for how your body reacts. Just one more thing I've read.