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    Hcg, Once And For-all!!!!!

    6'2", 220lbs, BF=15%, 1st cycle in 3 years (1st one done right), 12 weeks, deca /test (420mg/week of each, then PCT, nolva, HCG , armidex; 5000-6000 calories a day, workout/training as follows: each muscle group, once a week, about 15 excersizes per workout (10-12 reps to failure almost every time)

    Could someone tell me once and for-all how to take the HCG that I have???
    I have it in powder form in a vile. Am I supposed to mix it with water or something else before injecting? Am I supposed to inject it twice a week like some say? Or once a week like others say? Is it 250-500 iu's per inject E3D or is it 4,000 iu's once a week?

    Any help would be sooooooo greatly appreciated! Thanks...

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    uhhhh 15 excercises a workout and 12 sets for each? so you do about 180 sets each workout? obviously a typo. as for mixing the HCG , your supposed to mix it with the Bacteriostatic water. id inject it BEFORE pct starts, like up until the day before at 500 iu's a day or eod for 12 maybe 14 days. then on thr 15th day, start nolva and that stuff, HCG is counterproductive to getting Gonadatropin releasing hormone going again.

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    I also had a hard time figuring out how much hcg to take and how often..It seems like there are a lot of mixed opinions..I was going to run it @500iu's ED for 14days until I talked to IBD (which I trust because he definitely knows his shit), and this is what he told me.."Be careful running HCG at such a high dose, I'd run 500iu every 3 days, not 500iu ED. You can actually damage your LH (leutinizing hormone) by overdoing it like that which is very BAD news. If your cycle was not longer than 16wks I wouldn't worry about the hcg personally unless you have noticable testicular atrophy." I hope this helps..

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    Quote Originally Posted by getpaid
    I also had a hard time figuring out how much hcg to take and how often..It seems like there are a lot of mixed opinions..I was going to run it @500iu's ED for 14days until I talked to IBD (which I trust because he definitely knows his shit), and this is what he told me.."Be careful running HCG at such a high dose, I'd run 500iu every 3 days, not 500iu ED. You can actually damage your LH (leutinizing hormone) by overdoing it like that which is very BAD news. If your cycle was not longer than 16wks I wouldn't worry about the hcg personally unless you have noticable testicular atrophy." I hope this helps..
    agreed. IBD is the man. actually you could even run 250 iu's eod and still be MORE than fine. its alot more than ur body naturally produces of whatever HCG mimics. and LH damage is very real, and hapens when doses go over 1000 ius, and is used for too long. they get desensitized.

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    awesome, thanks guys...i think this is what ill do:

    take the hcg 3 days after i stop the prop and then take it every 3rd day for 14 days at about 300iu's.....but its ok to be taking the nolva and armidex the entire time im doing this, right???
    (i decided to just start taking the nolva and armidex starting at about 6 weeks and just run it the whole time, just for precautionary reasons, does that sound like a good idea, or atleast not like a bad one?)

    p.s.- yes that was a typo, 15 sets per muscle group, 10-12 reps per set

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    oh by the way...where can i get the bacwater from and one more quick thing: about the prop im taking, its insanely painful the next few days, someone told me i might have gotten a rough batch...they said something about an oil to inject with it...1) where do i get the oil? and 2) do i just draw out the oil in the same pin as the prop and inject at the same time?

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    certain types of prop are very painful like a gunshot wound, not sure why some are less painful than others(brands) for Bacteriostatic water click the link on the word Bacteriostatic

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