Thread: Doing a second PCT need help?
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03-15-2007, 09:14 PM #1
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Doing a second PCT need help?
I have a question and I really need so help. I am so pissed off I can't think straight!
I am 40 years old and I did a cycle a few months ago and did 6 weeks of PCT without HCG ( my cycle was tren ace and test eth for 6 weeks)
four weeks nolva and four clomid. At six weeks I came back to what seemed normal.
About a month later my doctor put me on high doses of oxycontin for pain
for two months and two month later I found my libido and energy dropping so I quit.
Two more months without meds it just got worse and so I got tested with my test being around 400.
I had the option of being put on TRT or HRT with test eth 200mg every two weeks. I have been on for 3 weeks and I only seen some improvement to my energy. The libido issue is sucking bad. I do not know if it is a estridol issue or that it has not been enough time. My balls are starting to shrink and I am at the lowest stage in my life.
I promised my woman that I would try to give nature another chance
Which to me means PCT again this time with HCG to get my nuts working in order.
My plan is 300 hcg a day for two weeks and to run nolva for 4 weeks and clomid for 8 weeks and hope I get back what I had a year ago.
I am feeling pretty desperate. I thought that the test injections would help and they seemed to at first but I felt 100 times better before this happened than I do now.
Someone on here has 100 times more knowledge than I do. I do not want to stay on test injections when they are not working and I can not find a doctor smart enough to treat me.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE who can advise me on what I can do to reverse this situation. I am not totally hypoganadal. I was fine a few months ago before my cycle and I felt ok after my cycle until I took the pain meds.
I am need advice on what I can do to get my body to naturally be where it is suppose to be at my age minus all the bs I have already done to it.
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03-15-2007, 09:32 PM #2
oxycontins eh, do you know that pain killers like oxycontin lowers test level on less than 30% of the ppl that are on it, you happen to be one of them, good thing you quit bcoz that med is very addictive. you can start a pct but you have to stop your TRT first, have you used hcg before ? do you know how to use it ? you dont really need both clomid and hcg imo, but hcg is better option and i think you might need a little more than what you stated of taking for 14 days. try some cialis at the moment, stop your trt, run hcg at a minimum of 500iu for 15-20 days (preferably 20 days) and nolva at 20mgs/day for 6 weeks.
Last edited by x_moe; 03-15-2007 at 09:36 PM.
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03-15-2007, 09:36 PM #3
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get off the damn oxtocin. its a girly hormone..sorta. i belive this is the cause of your issues. After everything is outa your system, do a pct as x moe outlined. Good luck.
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03-15-2007, 10:04 PM #4
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What about the clomid? I thought that combining clomid and nolva was better than nolva alone?
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03-15-2007, 10:11 PM #5
yes, you can run clomid and nolva if you'd like, hcg and clomid can replace each other
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03-15-2007, 10:18 PM #6
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what about running a AI during PCT?
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03-15-2007, 10:21 PM #7
sure, thats always a good addition
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03-15-2007, 10:30 PM #8
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how should you add liquidex to a PCT? I thought that was just when you were getting gyno during a cycle or if you were on HRT to keep estrogen levels under control
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03-15-2007, 10:50 PM #9
yes, i think clomid and nolva will do you good, run both for 4 weeks, dont worry about the AI's
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