HCG (Pregnyl) FAQ

**kelkel** · 03-18-2018, 08:04 PM

Not at the same time for pct. Nolva is stimulatory to the HPTA whereas HCG over time is suppressive.

**BenTren** · 04-08-2018, 08:24 AM

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**Luttrj** · 04-12-2018, 01:53 PM

Help...i have a 5000iu bottle of hcg . Added 2ml of water and have 30unit syringes. How many units should i be shooting?

**GearHeaded** · 04-12-2018, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Luttrj

Help...i have a 5000iu bottle of hcg. Added 2ml of water and have 30unit syringes. How many units should i be shooting?

for every ML you have 2500iu of HCG . so 1/10th an ML is 250iu of HCG. on a standard 1ml (100iu) insulin syringe you would go to the 10 mark to dose 250iu. you need to have standard 1 or 1/2 cc insulin syringes. IF you happen to have an insulin specific syringe those won't measure the same.. you need standardized ML/CC insulin syringes.

**Wade91** · 04-17-2018, 06:59 AM

Point number 12 says once you come off hcg you crash and ypur body won't be as responsive to my to get above baseline t levels is this true or has it been debunked I ask because I'm the guy getting my varicocele fixed and doc want a house 4 weeks of hcg followed by nolva.....I'm hoping to get my testicles working again so please someone advise I asked this somewhere else and someone gave me a study showing return to natural levels after stopping hcg burnie want other opinions.

**Donthate** · 07-23-2018, 11:37 PM

Thanks for the info

**crazy_rocks** · 08-11-2018, 07:48 PM

On other boards people are asking about HCG use with sarms such as LGD 4033 which are suppressive. They are saying it's no good and suppresses even more yet they mention using HCGenerate instead, I don't really trust that. Is there a difference between using HCG with steroids and sarms?

**fightnews** · 01-25-2020, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by dannydxd

There's tons of information out there regarding hcg use during a cycle. Many of them by folks like Anthony Roberts who has written countless books/articles on steroids , including different types of PCT protocols. Dude, do some research.

As for the amount of hcg i stated, yes it's low. It's because it's just enough to keep your nuts from shuttin down during a cycle. That's it's primary purpose during a cycle, so very little is used. If you choose to do it near the end of the cycle, yes, you need larger doses, because at that point, the purpose is to get them back up to normal size since they've atrophied (assuming cycles 12+ weeks). So ofcourse it makes sense to use larger doses, duh.

Doses any higher than 1000IUs per week during a cycle might desensitize the leydig cells.

Keeping your nuts they're regular size or close to will certainly reduce PCT, don't you think? I've also read a few articles on on folks that have used hcg during a cycle of Test/Deca ; the most feared "Deca Dick", and they didn't have any problems at all down there; no loss of libido at all.

You may continue to call it BS. That's fine. If you're happy with doing things the way you're doing them now, hey, if that works for you, then great, but don't down play new protocols that gain popularity, because you wanna keep it "old school".

In all honesty, i'm simply relaying tons of research i've done on my own from countless resources regarding hcg and it's usages during or after a cycle. I haven't actually done it myself during a cycle, but i'm certainly going to on my next cycle.

I'm sorry but reading forums is not "Research". Research involves studying FACTS. Not reading every idiots theories and every wanna be guru's bull crap online. There are plenty of people out there who think Anthony Roberts is a fraud. He's not a doctor and he hasn't run clinical trials on all his so called protocols.

Nothing against him personally. Same goes for all the other internet gurus, Never mind the online every man that goes around all the forums repeating their ideas like they were peer reviewed facts. Then getting half the stuff wrong and misinterpreted plus lost in translation. There is decent info out there but remember even the good info is mostly unproven. Then the other 99% is nonsense.

**Riggar** · 01-31-2020, 01:17 PM

please clarify for me... DO i add the Bact Water to the small bottle w HCG Powder? how much do i insert to the hcg viail ? i asume 1 ml? and whats the suggested dose for PCT .. TIA CHEERS

**Riggar** · 01-31-2020, 01:23 PM

Still Flat as fuck, Just finished 4 weeks pct Clomid ... Q Im considering another 4 week cycle of Nolva ... Need some solid advice Thx Riggar

**sfbjj** · 04-09-2020, 11:22 AM

Im taking HCG 500ui every 4 days, is that wrong?

**Meow_Wolf** · 11-30-2020, 03:19 PM

9) and 14) were quite helpful. I've seen so many people say run it during cycle and many more say just for pct before clo/nolva.. This is the best of both worlds, starting it towards the last few weeks of the cycle. I would not have thought of that. Definitely going to do this.

**DozerMan** · 06-21-2021, 08:13 PM

Like many others have mentioned already regarding this posting; that was good of you taking the time to share what you know - thanks.

I suppose I can Google this, but you all are some smart fuckers when it comes to this stuff.
I find myself reading and re-reading some of these posts just to still be sitting here like... Duhhhh..

Anyways, should/could HcG be taken with HmG to help increase likelihood of having another child? Are there any drawbacks/concerns or maybe any other magical drug(s) to help erase the past few years of straight and utter irresponsible test use?
And is the HmG stuff hard to come by?

Thank you
- Smitty

**Jeffery Stamos** · 10-31-2021, 05:42 PM

Question: Here is an amateur question regarding PCT.
Why not just taper testosterone ( 300, 150, 75, 35, etc) to allow endogenous testosterone to increase as exogenous testosterone decreases. This is the process for weaning off of glucocorticoids in the medical setting? This should eliminate the need for hcg and anti-estrogens (Clovis/nolvadex )

Also, HCG is a LH analog. Administering it would decrease LH production so when hcg is finally discontinued LH would be suppressed and endogenous testosterone production would be as well. Then clomid/Nolvadex is administered to stimulate LH via its anti-estrogen effect. Why not taper testosterone and maybe add cloned/nolvadex and eliminate hcg all together?

**almostgone** · 11-03-2021, 04:38 AM

It typically doesn't work like that. Just because you wean off of exogenous test doesn't mean your body will always resume endogenous production.
When you inject exogenous testosterone it pretty much blunts the endogenous process.

**Test Monsterone** · 11-04-2021, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by Jeffery Stamos

Question: Here is an amateur question regarding PCT.
Why not just taper testosterone ( 300, 150, 75, 35, etc) to allow endogenous testosterone to increase as exogenous testosterone decreases. This is the process for weaning off of glucocorticoids in the medical setting? This should eliminate the need for hcg and anti-estrogens (Clovis/nolvadex )

Also, HCG is a LH analog. Administering it would decrease LH production so when hcg is finally discontinued LH would be suppressed and endogenous testosterone production would be as well. Then clomid/Nolvadex is administered to stimulate LH via its anti-estrogen effect. Why not taper testosterone and maybe add cloned/nolvadex and eliminate hcg all together?

I don’t believe in HCG as a PCT protocol, but I do believe in your theory of tapering down. I have had an endo suggest this to me if I want to come off completely. HCG should be taken throughout the cycle to ensure the leydig cells in the testes don’t become dormant. This ensures that the mechanics of producing endogenous testosterone remain functional. Yes, HCG is suppressive to the pituitary, but the pituitary can recover fairly quickly as it is a signaling unit vs a mechanical unit such as the testes.

**g800** · 10-01-2022, 04:02 PM

Does anyone know, or are you able to point me to a prior post, about the ability to use HCG and Clomid at the same time for PCT?

The HCG page on the main site talks about using HCG first and once done then starting Clomid. What about using Clomid at same time as HCG and continuing with it post HCG?

Thx!

**SweetChicken** · 11-09-2023, 08:56 AM

If I am currently on trt and would like to add HCG to get my nuts back in shape, how much is recommended? I’ve read a paper from John crisper suggesting dosing no more than 100/day. But it is unclear if that is from the beginning before any atrophy has taken place. If I were to do 250x2 the first week and then followed up the following week with 100 every third day, would this be sufficient to kickstart my hpta? Looking some solid advice

Here’s the paper
https://www.defymedical.com/wp-conte...r.-Crisler.pdf