NO pct anyone?

[vlad878]

have any of u guys did cycles with no pct ive see friends do cycles with no pct and keep most gains so wtf is up with dis new pct fad

[Markosterone]

yeah I know several people who have done a cycle without pct. but I wouldnt.

[x_moe]

pct is far more than just to help maintain gains.

[Schmidty]

IMO PCT is more important then the cycle its self. I have seen a average sized guy do a heavy cycle and within months lose everything they had gained. PCT is no fad my friend!

[Titleist]

pct is far more than just to help maintain gains.

Exactly. It is used more to bring back up your hormone levels and get your body running on it's own again. It helps you keep your gains by bringing those levels back up.

You always need to run a PCT. "wtf is up with dis new pct fad" It isn't a new fad bro, and i'd suggest you look into it.

[vlad878]

well 20 yrs ago there wasnt any pct so how did guys keep their gains?

[lex57]

well 20 yrs ago there wasnt any pct so how did guys keep their gains?

what makes you think that there was no pct 20 years ago?

[Avitoholis]

Did a few cycles without PCT, and lost most of my gains (not all) and seen it happen to a few others too. PCT is simple and effective. Just do it.

[vlad878]

nolva wasnt avilable back then there wasnt much knowlege like today people tapered their cycles to ease the blow to keep gains

[x_moe]

nolva wasnt avilable back then there wasnt much knowlege like today people tapered their cycles to ease the blow to keep gains

bro if you dont wanna run pct's like your dumb friends then dont. we could care less to ppl who dont care themselves

[Schmidty]

Just Do A Pct!

[rabidsquirrel]

ive done about 6-7 cycles and until about 5 months when i found these site didnt know what a pct was. but i had a real hard time keeping any gains. plus lost my sex drive completetly until the next cycle. also i had a hard time keeping motivated, never wanted to go to gym, then when i did go i didnt feel like lifting. i will be done with this cycle in 3 weeks and i have a pct this time so guess ill see if it help.

[vlad878]

i have pct but im just startin to think how effective is this compared to no pct

[vlad878]

so anyone care to share their no pct experiences?

[thegodfather]

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[johnny juice]

Well put Thegodfather

[vlad878]

nice post but havent u guys ever met sumone who keeps most of their gains with no pct

[thegodfather]

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[vlad878]

Nevermind, let me just tell you the answer you want to hear rather than the truth. Yes, everyone that I know and lift with has kept all of their gains without PCT and are monsters now...[/QUOTE]

thank u dats wut i wanted to hear

[frank12391]

well, If you want to destroy your reproductive system which is one of the bodies most important systems, not only to reproduce but what gives you male characteristics, sex drive, bone density and helps maintain mental well being; keep running cycles without p.c.t. You will get away with a few times but you are doing hidden damage that you may never reverse. There are plenty of ex old school bodybuilders who have aged prematurely, have oseoporosus, can't have kids, have no nuts and look frail and are anxious and suffer ***ression. I'v spoken to guys who have had multiple hip and knee replacements before they turned 50 and are living with chronic pain. Their bodies endocrine sysem and immune systems have bitten the dust and are on hormone replacement therapy for the rest of their lives because their bodies no longer produce them to function normally. Then there is the pituitary system, lymphatic system too. You should listen to people on here who know what they're talking about. This site has been put together by an education system which is based on years and years of testimonies, experience and experimentation and you think you know better? Do you think you can prove these people wrong? send us your pics when you got 10 cycles under your belt. Don't forget the walking stick!

[keith hackney]

IMO PCT is more important then the cycle its self. I have seen a average sized guy do a heavy cycle and within months lose everything they had gained. PCT is no fad my friend!

ive seen guys get shut down so bad for so long that they lose everything they gained and then some. PCT is mandatory. but obviously it ***ends how heavy the cycle was. lighter shorter cycles no PCT prob wont kill ya but definately not recommended

[sonnygll]

Quite a while back there was not pct. Like 70's and before, people used weaker stuff, took it way more then they were off of it, and just lived with the sides. People who were genetically predisposed to have problems with it just didn't make it. They also had doctors to help them and if I am not mistaken roids used to be legal too.

Now there are more powerful drugs and people stack many of them together at the same time, it is mostly DIY too. We also have lots of very good drugs that help with sides now. So why put up with all the problems when you can just take something to fix it?

I'd rather do it the easy way then the hard way myself.

[Slaiv]

my 19yr old cousin after doing a 6week test e cycle didnt do PCT

he kept his gains for a good couple of months... but now he lost it all :-P

[dece870717]

I know a guy in the gym, used to be a monster and on one particular cycle he went cold turkey and just stopped it and did no PCT. He got ***ressed as hell,started drinking a lot(even did some other bad bad substances),stopped working out for more than 6 months, and dropped 30lbs. He's all good now, hes pulled himself together but he told me NEVER forget to do PCT cause some people can go to shit ***ending on how hard they were shut down.

[vlad878]

how bout all of the people i be hearin doin oral only cycles with superdrol pheraplex and keepin all their gains with no pct

[vlad878]

or wut about this thing called pulsing where u take a oral roid EOD at a higher dosage

[dece870717]

how bout all of the people i be hearin doin oral only cycles with superdrol pheraplex and keepin all their gains with no pct

Dude, some people will get away with it but the majority of people won't or won't risk it. Do your cycle and don't do a PCT and if you get real ***ressed, lose a lot of gains,have no sex drive or can't get a hardon for months you'll know why.

[Maldorf]

well 20 yrs ago there wasnt any pct so how did guys keep their gains?

Good question really. I do know they used to taper off stuff a lot. By cutting downt the dose slowly they were trying to get their body back into homeostasis.

[vlad878]

im goin to do pct but im just thinkin how da hell did people from the 70's kept their gains with no pct u will keep sum of the gains mabey not all but u gotta keep atleast 50%

[dece870717]

im goin to do pct but im just thinkin how da hell did people from the 70's kept their gains with no pct u will keep sum of the gains mabey not all but u gotta keep atleast 50%

Well if your talking about the pros, most of them were probably on cycle all the time so I wouldn't be suprised if they kept all of it.

[vlad878]

i guess your right but lets use this as an example lets say sumome dose dbol 10mg a day for 6 weeks its a low dose gains would be lets say 10lbs after cycle is over u retain 8 of those pounds because it was over 6 wks

[SilverToungedDevil]

i have two friends who just finished two diff cycles... one bulking and one cutting. they thought that they didn't need a pct, the one who was cutting lost nearly all his definition and never wants to lift, and the one who was bulking lost most his stregnth and size and is now super ***ressed. i warned them about what would happen w/o a a proper pct but they didn't want to hear it.... lets just say they are definately going to run one hell of a pct next time.

[lex57]

why isnt this in the pct forum is what i want to know.

[sonnygll]

I'm doing PCT for my superdrol cycle. I would recommend you do as well. It probably doesn't matter as much as other things because the cycle is short, but still, you should do it. Superdrol is easy anyway. All you need is some trib and some clomid.

[vlad878]

well any more pct stories

[skank]

well any more pct stories

You will become the next story if you skip pct. Hope you have learned from this redundent thread.

[Titleist]

You will become the next story if you skip pct. Hope you have learned from this redundent thread.

Seriously. This thread is terrible.

Thread-starter, don't do PCT. I hope everything goes well.

[vlad878]

ok i will and i will post my results