New to AR, Question on PCT

**Nizzlefritz** · 07-05-2007, 12:36 PM

First off I am a brand new member to AR, but I have been lurking for 2 weeks and trying to take it all in. There is so much info, but I know a lot of it is custom fit to the individual. I would like a few suggestions as to what I should to for the prevention of gyno.

I have a 10ML vial of Test Cyp (Pharm grade) and I started my cycle on 7/1/2007. My first injection was 500mg and I am planning to do 500mg every 5 days. I know most people do EoD or 1 per week but after finding out that I dont do so well with the injection so I want to get it over with.

Now to be honest I had no idea what I was getting into when I got the gear. I did very little research up until a week ago. I had no clue on cycles, no clue on PCT, no clue on anything. I knew some of the side effects of the testes and acne and bloat, but I had no clue about Gyno and I am freaked out. So, I was planning to take Arimidex during and after cycle but I am not so sure thats correct. The vials(2) are on order, should be here next Monday.

So to break it down, I have 2 questions:

1.) Am I being a complete idiot my first time doing 500mg every 5 days until I run out (4 shots, last one I know will be less obviously)?

2.) What can I do to prevent Gyno. I am really nervous about this. Like I said, I was wanting to start taking Arimidex on my 3rd injection at 1mg per day for 60 days (2 vials) Is this enough to prevent Gyno while on cycle and is it enough for my PCT alone??

Just some facts that may or may not help. I am 25 years old, 6'1'' and 183lbs before cycle. I have trained for the past 3 years but not hardcore. I am good shape and 2 months before I started I have been on a hardcore lean diet to shed the "fat" (196lbs when I started the diet)so that I would get the most from my cycle knowing I would only take 1 vial.

Any help or critique is sincerely appreciated and I look forward to being a member here at AR!

**dustyn91** · 07-05-2007, 03:49 PM

welcome to ar, is seems you have a lot of reading to do! first off take the name out of your post of what type of test you have. thats a biiiiig no no!!
my advise to you is start reading all the stickys in each forum.

**skank** · 07-06-2007, 04:56 PM

Since you already started your cycle you need to get everything you need for pct asap. Some suppliers do not ship so fast or may be out of stock. So research the pct plans in the stickies above. Pheednos pct is a good basic plan. I think you will be ok with .25mg of arimidex during cycle.

**Njord** · 07-08-2007, 02:24 PM

To answer your first question: Yes you are. That is a very badly concieved cycle (if you could call it that). Not enough time, too high dosage , wrong schedule.
For your second question: If you are not getting itchy nipples or swelling/painful nips, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Once you get your Arimidex in, just run it like skank said until you start pct. And you will need pct even after your crappy cycle. Your natural testosterone production is going to to be shut down. Research a proper pct and order it ASAP.

**Nizzlefritz** · 07-10-2007, 09:26 AM

Okay, thank you so much for the replys.

Well I have taken 2 injections at 500mg test cyp each. I am due for another injection tomorrow (wed the 11th). Should I lessen the dose to 250mg test cyp and extend the cycle? I dont know if there are any effects of lowering the dosage so quickly but I thought I would ask. The last injection went a lot better and if it will be better for my body to lower the dosage and prolong the cycle I will do so. I got my Arimidex and was thinking of 1mg per day, but I saw a post of .25mg per day. Not sure which because the AR site I ordered from gave a pretty big range of .25-1mg so any help there? I dont have any itchy nips or anything yet so hopefully I am okay. I do appreciate you all taking the time to respond, so thank you.

**Njord** · 07-10-2007, 12:50 PM

I doubt that 10 ml's will do you much good for your 4 week cycle. It is just too short. I would drop the doses down to 250mg twice a week and run it until your out (or get some more and run a proper cycle. Run with the .25 mg of Arimidex if it makes you feel better. Also make sure that you get a proper pct put together. You will be shut down, even from this short cycle.

**Cat316** · 07-10-2007, 02:45 PM

that was a waste of money....first most people dont shoot 1 time a week most shoot every 3.5 days....for a first cycle you should be around 500 p/week and pct is the most important part so have it before you start your next cycle if you read up ALOT MORE and choose your ready to

**Nizzlefritz** · 07-11-2007, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Cat316

that was a waste of money....first most people dont shoot 1 time a week most shoot every 3.5 days....for a first cycle you should be around 500 p/week and pct is the most important part so have it before you start your next cycle if you read up ALOT MORE and choose your ready to

Well I am not doing it once a week, I read that after injections the levels of Test drop dramatically after 3-5 days (which i think is why you said 3.5) So I figured I would go on the far end of 5 days to prolong the cycle as much as I could. I only have one vial and I dont know how to get more. The reason I did 500mg was because of things I read and most recommend a min of 400-600mg a week, again I thought I would go for that range.

Thanks for all the input, I should have my Nolva/Ara here by the end of week for PCT. I would do the HCG , but I couldnt find it on the AR-R site.

**frank2738** · 07-11-2007, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Njord

To answer your first question: Yes you are. That is a very badly concieved cycle (if you could call it that). Not enough time, too high dosage , wrong schedule.
For your second question: If you are not getting itchy nipples or swelling/painful nips, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Once you get your Arimidex in, just run it like skank said until you start pct. And you will need pct even after your crappy cycle. Your natural testosterone production is going to to be shut down. Research a proper pct and order it ASAP.

that was funny!