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    Smile PCT start time debate Started by PIN

    Do you guys out there agree with this type of PCT and especially the part stating. There is no evidence to suggest waiting any length of time after your cycle is over will increase PCT effectiveness I have done a lot of research on these forums of late and would be interested in your views on this type of PCT.

    With this PCT, there will be a rapid increase in LH, FSH, and testosterone, as well as almost a complete block on all the factors that could be causing your natural hormones to be delayed in returning to baseline. For this reason, I feel that the second your cycle is over is when you should start this PCT (a week after your last shot, or the day after your last pill is fine). Remember, waiting for some of the extra androgens you’ve been taking to leave your body is nonsensical, as we want to start recovery as soon as possible to retain maximum gains. There is no evidence to suggest waiting any length of time after your cycle is over will increase PCT effectiveness…it simply prolongs the time you aren’t doing anything positive to regain your natural hormones. And how long do we run this for? Well…we need to stop the HCG relatively soon for reasons discussed earlier. But the Nolvadex, and Aromasin can be used for awhile longer. Ideally, we’d be getting weekly blood work, but we could also get it done monthly, and just running this PCT until we see our natural hormones restored…but weekly bloodwork isn’t really an option for most of us. Failing the option of monitoring recovery with blood-work, I’m going to give you my best thoughts on the time you should be running your PCT. It’s important to note I haven’t discussed nutrition or other compounds that may be beneficial…this is because in this article, I am primarily concerned with the restoration of hormonal function, nothing else. And with no further delays, here are my recommendations for PCT:

    Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
    1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
    2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
    3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
    4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
    5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
    6 20mgs/day

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    bump... good question... i've heard both sides equally

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    yes there is no evidence to suggest waiting, i know vets that wait and others that start right away, but you might wana run the pct a little longer if your gona start right next day after whatever compounds your running. think about it this way, if you have ppl over at your place and everyone is drinking and making a mess, after everyone goes home you can start cleaning your place easily, but if you decide to clean your place while everyone is still over and drinking then they might make more mess while your cleaning which will take you a little longer to finish cleaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    yes there is no evidence to suggest waiting, i know vets that wait and others that start right away, but you might wana run the pct a little longer if your gona start right next day after whatever compounds your running. think about it this way, if you have ppl over at your place and everyone is drinking and making a mess, after everyone goes home you can start cleaning your place easily, but if you decide to clean your place while everyone is still over and drinking then they might make more mess while your cleaning which will take you a little longer to finish cleaning.
    No drinking on cycle!

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    i quit drinking 3 yrs ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    i quit drinking 3 yrs ago.
    Erm, it was a joke bro...

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    i know it was. so was mine, i quit last year.

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    You obviously use this PCT yourself how did you find it worked for you? Did you use long or short estered test how long was your cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigjamie
    You obviously use this PCT yourself how did you find it worked for you? Did you use long or short estered test how long was your cycle?
    I used this pct after my last cycle of Test E 500mg/week for 9 weeks. I did not recover as fast as I would have liked. Felt like shit all through pct and even a while after. I blame the hcg. I am now 2 1/2 weeks into pct from Test PP, NPP and winny for 8 weeks. Am using nolva, aromasin and raloxifene. Feel great, almost as good as on cycle.

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