Quitting test E after 7 shots and 4 weeks. Need Help!!!

**Super Intense** · 08-04-2007, 01:46 AM

I am quitting my cycle 4 weeks in due to complications. I need to know if I need PCT and how much. I am taking Testosterone Enanthate . I was taking 250MG shots twice a week. I have access to Nolvadex and Clomid. I dont like Nolvadex because I get some bad side effects on it. If someone can guide me through how much I need to take of either one to get the desired effect.

**Super Intense** · 08-04-2007, 11:18 AM

no one have an answer? My doc said dont take any Clomid or Nolva and just stop. He said to monitor my test levels via blood tests. Someone help that has experience.

**Njord** · 08-04-2007, 12:05 PM

After 4 weeks on Test, your natural test production will be 100% shut down. You need PCT. Run the Nolva and Clomid together for 4 weeks.

**Super Intense** · 08-04-2007, 01:31 PM

Can someone please help me with dosages etc. I'm 6'2 190LBS. I have never heard of running Nolva and clomid together. Also what is the duration. Thanks for the reply Njord but that does not really help much since its just a blanket statement.

My nolva is in 20MG tabs and Clomid is in 50mg tabs

**PEWN** · 08-04-2007, 01:43 PM

alright man here what you do ... run a normal pct just to make sure your body return to its stable level... there are plenty of pct suggestions on the site.... i would suggest just running clomid at 100mg a day for 7 days, 50mg a day for 7 days after that and you should be fine...

**SilverToungedDevil** · 08-04-2007, 01:48 PM

Clomid: (4 weeks) day one @ 300mgs following 2 weeks @ 100mgs ed, then the final 2 weeks @ 50mg ed
Nolv.: (6 weeks) @ 20mg ed

**PEWN** · 08-04-2007, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by SilverToungedDevil

Clomid: (4 weeks) day one @ 300mgs following 2 weeks @ 100mgs ed, then the final 2 weeks @ 50mg ed
Nolv.: (6 weeks) @ 20mg ed

holy crap... talking about over shutting the runway...

**Super Intense** · 08-04-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by SilverToungedDevil

Clomid: (4 weeks) day one @ 300mgs following 2 weeks @ 100mgs ed, then the final 2 weeks @ 50mg ed
Nolv.: (6 weeks) @ 20mg ed

Wow now I got two suggestions on opposite sides of the spectrum. I would wya prefer Pewntangs suggestion as I dont want to take any more medication that I have to. Anyone concur on poontangs advice?

**Njord** · 08-04-2007, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Super Intense

Wow now I got two suggestions on opposite sides of the spectrum. I would wya prefer Pewntangs suggestion as I dont want to take any more medication that I have to. Anyone concur on poontangs advice?

That's the thing about pct advice, you are always going to get views from each side of the spectrum. I personally would do at leat a 4 week pct just to be safe. nolva @ 20mg and Clomid @ the dosage pewntang suggested, but continue @ 50mg for 4 weeks total.

**Super Intense** · 08-04-2007, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Njord

That's the thing about pct advice, you are always going to get views from each side of the spectrum. I personally would do at leat a 4 week pct just to be safe. nolva @ 20mg and Clomid @ the dosage pewntang suggested, but continue @ 50mg for 4 weeks total.

why run both drugs that both do the same thing?

**SilverToungedDevil** · 08-05-2007, 12:39 AM

clomid binds to diff. receptors than nolv. its also thought to return hpta levels to normal quicker. kind of a largely debated topic, but might be prudent to include both in order to get yourself back to normal.

as far as my recommendation for pct... that is just the basic protocal for taking clomid as well as nolv. clomid is normally run for 4 weeks and nolv for 4-6 weeks. everything is debatable including dosages, and largely has to do with how your body responds to the drugs. in my opinion... the pct is just as important if not more important than the actual cycle. so, don't cut any corners. but like i said everyone responds differently so alot of it might be left to trial and error for you. best of luck bro, and make sure that about 2 weeks after you finish your pct (however you decide) get your blood work done to make sure everything is back to normal.

**XNathan** · 08-08-2007, 07:48 AM

Lege Artis (Medical use)

Clomid 4wks 50mg/ed then one month off and repeat or
Tamox 2-6months 10mg ed
Monitoring total test., free test., LH a FSH then correction of treatment based on response.

Thats for sec. hypo.

From my experiences Clomid and nolva is better PCT than clomid or tamoxifen alone. But clomid is to nasty drug to me (sides). So Iam using now Aromasin /Tamoxifen PCT with great succes. After 19-nor Iam adding hCG .

**SilverToungedDevil** · 08-09-2007, 12:54 AM

i use the same... aromasin /tamox... hcg with 19nors, seems to work great

**Super Intense** · 08-15-2007, 08:10 PM

what sides are you getting off clomid?

Originally Posted by XNathan

Lege Artis (Medical use)

Clomid 4wks 50mg/ed then one month off and repeat or
Tamox 2-6months 10mg ed
Monitoring total test., free test., LH a FSH then correction of treatment based on response.

Thats for sec. hypo.

From my experiences Clomid and nolva is better PCT than clomid or tamoxifen alone. But clomid is to nasty drug to me (sides). So Iam using now Aromasin/Tamoxifen PCT with great succes. After 19-nor Iam adding hCG.

**Luuke** · 08-15-2007, 08:37 PM

Just curious what bad sides did you get 4wks in? Why not try lowering the test dose? Also next time you start get your PCT in order, your body will thank you later.

With Clomid the only sides i noticed was a i felt emotional. Nothing crazy just if i saw a sad story in the news i felt like crying....lol i didn't though =)

good luck