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    Test E and Deca PCT questions

    IM about to start my first cycle in years, and 15 yrs ago when I did my last cycles, I knew nothing about PCT's.

    Heres what Im going with:

    Test E 500mg per week ( 2 times a wk at 250mg)
    Deca either 300 or 400mg a week ( 2 times a week split the doses)

    I have been reading about PCT's, and it seems the more I read the more confused I get. I might have to step back for a day and come back fresh to begin reading again.

    What should I use for a PCT, and should I take anything during the cycle to combat gyno or any other side effects?

    I have access to the chems that the site sponsor sells, and HCG.

    Any help would be appreciated. I want to kick this cycle off, but want to make sure I have everything in my hands before I begin.

    By the way, half way thinking about adding some D Bol for the first 4 weeks. If I do so, would it change my PCT and or during cycle gear.

    Thanks

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    From your past experience (even though a whle a go) were you susceptible to water retention / gyno?

    A pct is a pct at the end of the day... But should always consist of a SERM and an AI.

    Check out the sticky thread on SERMS and AI's....

    Use an AI on cycle if water / gyno starts (you can run an AI all the way through cycle, but remember a bit of estro helps with gains) - Arimidex is great for that.

    And for PCT either Clomid or Nolva as the SERM (some people like to use both), and then either Arimidex or Aromasin as the AI (depending on how much you want to spend as aromasin is more $$)

    As got hcg.. only bother using it if your nuts shrink a bit - check out the hcg thread stickied at the top of this section.

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    thanks for the response.....I never experienced any signs of gyno in the past, a little water retention, but nothing crazy.

    I will do a little more reading, but you have pointed me in the right direction.

    thanks

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    DO NOT take Nolva during your cycle. It will lead to more gyno due to the fact that Deca is a 19nor. You need something to combat prolactin gyno cause by Deca, like Caber. I would also run an AI to go along with any estrogen gyno you might get from Test, like Adex. or Letro. For my PCT I would keep running the caber, and adex, then add in my clomid and hcg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowep3 View Post
    DO NOT take Nolva during your cycle. It will lead to more gyno due to the fact that Deca is a 19nor. You need something to combat prolactin gyno cause by Deca, like Caber. I would also run an AI to go along with any estrogen gyno you might get from Test, like Adex. or Letro. For my PCT I would keep running the caber, and adex, then add in my clomid and hcg.
    Vary true! Stay away from nolva while on cycle - Adex is perfect for on cycle if you decide you need it.

    Can you nolva in ya pct though.. and is a great compound along with clomid and Adex like Lowep3 said.

    Caber is pure choice as is normally expensive. With deca at 300-400mg per week you probably wont need it.

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